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09 Sep

Game Thread: Sept. 9, Braves at Natspos

Today’s fun Mets fact: Only 33 times has a New York Met hit .300 or better in a season when qualifying for the batting title.

Bonus Mets fact: Some of the Mets who have hit .300 include Mackey Sasser (who forgot how to throw to second base), Lenny Randle (who once beat up his 50-year-old manager) and Eddie Kranepool (the franchise all-time leader in career hits).

140 Responses to “Game Thread: Sept. 9, Braves at Natspos”

  1. 1
    Kyle S Says:

    I’m going to the game tonight. Look for me and my wife in section 209, row 2, about 15 rows behind the Braves dugout on the lower level. Go Braves!

  2. 2
    Smitty Says:

    Faygo is good, but stay away from Faygo Orange, it is terrible

  3. 3
    Johnny Says:

    I get the damn Red Sox vs Yankees on the Extra Sucky Pissant Network. Man that makes me madder than hell. Sorry for the cussing but I’m just saying…….

  4. 4
    jenny Says:

    Have fun, Kyle, those are nice seats. I was in similar seats except on the opposite side in May (we lost 5-4).

    Like the expanded acronym, Johnny.

  5. 5
    nyb Says:

    Mixed bag tonight:

    Furcal, SS
    Giles, 2B
    Jones, 3B
    Jones, CF
    LaRoche, 1B
    Francoeur, RF
    Estrada, C
    Langerhans, LF
    Ramirez, P

    Good job by Bobby using the three good defensive outfielders in a big ballpark with HoRam pitching.

  6. 6
    Veecee Says:

    New poster…long time lurker. Why is La Cucaracha batting fifth AGAIN instead of 8th? Grrrr.

  7. 7
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Bobby really wants Andruw to pass Lemke on the walks list tonight.

  8. 8
    JoeyT Says:

    Perez is back? Who came off the 40?

  9. 9
    JoeyT Says:

    They might technically be 2-4 in this ballpark, but under normal baseball rules, not the Robinson “away HRs don’t count” rules, they’re 3-3.

  10. 10
    JoeyT Says:

    Shoulda walked him.

  11. 11
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Joe, does “You suck, LaRoche!” count as advice?

  12. 12
    JoeyT Says:

    Good timing on that comment, Mac.

  13. 13
    Jack Says:

    I don’t believe what I just saw!

  14. 14
    kc Says:

    I guess that three days off does help Adam a little bit…

  15. 15
    JoeyT Says:

    Therefore, kc, I propose the Braves only play him once every four days.

  16. 16
    kc Says:

    Terrible, Ramirez is absolutely terrible…

  17. 17
    Mac Thomason Says:

    You suck, LaRoche!

  18. 18
    JoeyT Says:

    Including tonight (so far), LaRoche’s numbers after having at least two days off.


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    kc Says:

    Joey, your idea is GREAT!!! It supports my believe that LaRoche is not good enough to be a everyday player!

  20. 20
    JoeyT Says:

    If HR pitches a no-hitter, and the only run is a guy who should have popped out foul and scored on like 8 errors, I’d actually laugh.

  21. 21
    Mac Thomason Says:

    How often has LaRoche had more than one day off before a game? At any event, it seems like it’s the young guy who needs to be rested.

  22. 22
    JoeyT Says:

    Four times, including the All-Star break and today. ESPN’s game log makes them real easy to spot.

  23. 23
    kc Says:

    Ramirez sucks…sorry repeating myself…

  24. 24
    JoeyT Says:

    Conclusion: The sample size isn’t enough to say anything, except that the fact the sample size is four games means LaRoche plays far, far too much.

  25. 25
    drew Says:

    The Nats have out there about the most feeble lineup that I can imagine a major-league club fielding. Only Guillen is having a season that can be described as even modestly successful.

  26. 26
    latnam Says:

    Quite Frankly, that banner behind homeplate gives me a headache.

  27. 27
    JoeyT Says:

    Nick Johnson walks a TON. Getting on base 40% of the time while still having decent power (especially in that park) is a pretty good year.

  28. 28
    Mac Thomason Says:

    There is an ad for “Quite Frankly” behind the plate. I feel ill.

  29. 29
    latnam Says:

    I beat you to it Mac.

  30. 30
    Mac Thomason Says:

    WHY, GOD, WHY?!?!?

    Oh, goody, a double.

  31. 31
    Mac Thomason Says:


  32. 32
    kc Says:

    WHY IS MARCUS BUNTING?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

  33. 33
    JoeyT Says:

    Marcus shouldn’t be mad at himself.

    He’s the best hitter (for average) on the team. He should be mad at Bobby.

  34. 34
    kc Says:

    I am mad at Bobby…

  35. 35
    JoeyT Says:

    And with the Guillen out, Horatio officially proposes to RFK stadium.

  36. 36
    kc Says:

    Let’s trade Horacio for Guillen, I will take that in a sec…

  37. 37
    kc Says:

    The Nats have their roster built correctly, strong pitching to go with the huge RFK, they just need a little bit better offense to be a very good team.

  38. 38
    Another Alex R. Says:

    The perfect RFK player would be Ichiro. There is so much room for him to place the ball…

  39. 39
    JoeyT Says:

    LaRoche, you suck!

  40. 40
    JoeyT Says:

    Turkey Hill is ice cream, FYI.

  41. 41
    braves rule Says:

    AH, 2 errors? who did!

  42. 42
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I don’t remember for sure, Braves Rule, but as I recall, they suck.

  43. 43
    JoeyT Says:

    How could Estrada not field that? Sure, Marcus stalled, but it was in plenty of time.

  44. 44
    urlhix Says:

    He was thinking about the injury yet again.

  45. 45
    Smitty Says:

    Estrada’s Eddie George Disease is flarring up tonight

  46. 46
    Smitty Says:

    McCann would have made the play. So would have my 14 year old sister

  47. 47
    JoeyT Says:

    Maybe he was distracted by actual pain. He looked a little hurt earlier.

  48. 48
    urlhix Says:

    Could be, since he was acting gimply earlier, I hope not.

  49. 49
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Oh, I’ve missed this…

    You suck, Vinny!!!!

  50. 50
    JoeyT Says:

    Maybe Bobby bunts so much to set up plays like that.

  51. 51
    JoeyT Says:

    Oh, Andruw.

  52. 52
    Mac Thomason Says:


  53. 53
    urlhix Says:


  54. 54
    kc Says:

    I love Andruw!!! MVP!!!

  55. 55
    latnam Says:


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    Mac Thomason Says:


  57. 57
    kc Says:

    Joey, I really like the “Adam plays once every four days” idea!

  58. 58
    braves rule Says:

    my Vitamin, Andruw

  59. 59
    urlhix Says:

    Can you believe that I got Andruw off the waiver wire about a month into this season in my fantasy league.

  60. 60
    ububba Says:

    Checking in again from Spain & I couldn“t have picked a better time.

    Andruw has the magic wand working. All his homers seem to be big ones. Apache!

    Off to the nightlife & go Bravos!

  61. 61
    kc Says:

    urlhix, I was able to draft Andruw as my THIRD outfielder on all my fantasy baseball team. Boy, what a bargain!!!

  62. 62
    DANNY Says:


  63. 63
    JoeyT Says:

    If the Braves really want the Padres instead of the Astros, it might come down to fielding a B team that last series with the Marlins.

  64. 64
    urlhix Says:

    Wow, kc, that’s insane. I’m assuming you are winning your league too?

  65. 65
    JoeyT Says:

    I completely agree with Leo’s list of not-crummy relief pitchers on the Braves.

  66. 66
    JoeyT Says:

    Bring out Boyer now. I don’t care what inning it is. This is a critical moment.

  67. 67
    kc Says:

    There is no way I will let HoRo starting a playoff game…

  68. 68
    JoeyT Says:

    My bad. Good job, Leo.

  69. 69
    drew Says:

    I know Bobby really wants Horacio to qualify for this victory, but innings like this, and the lack of mental toughness they indicate, terrify me. Is Davies at least warming up?

  70. 70
    kc Says:

    110 pitches by now for HoRo, that’s insane…

  71. 71
    kc Says:

    urlhix, all my teams have great offense as you can imagine, but leading a pitching staff with Schmidt and Sheets isn’t a good idea this year.

  72. 72
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Estrada’s back looks really stiff on these swings.

  73. 73
    kc Says:

    Probably because of HoRo long innings…

  74. 74
    JoeyT Says:

    Will Marte ever get in a game?

  75. 75
    kc Says:

    Not likely, I think he is like the third right handed bat off the bench behind Julio and Jordan…

  76. 76
    JoeyT Says:

    Boyer? Now? This isn’t a critical role. Put Lerew or someone in here.

  77. 77
    urlhix Says:

    kc, I got real lucky and was able to get Santana (my first pick), Jake Peavey, K-rod and Izzy. Everyone was too busy getting all of the Sox and Yanks players and there were some gems available in the middle rounds.

  78. 78
    Mac Thomason Says:

    If Boyer works the sixth, and Foster works the seventh, then…

  79. 79
    JoeyT Says:

    And plays like that make me think Marte will be warming a bench well into next year.

  80. 80
    JoeyT Says:

    Then Lerew works the 8th, right? Right?



  81. 81
    JoeyT Says:

    I think it’s sad that we all know the narrative of the game. The score stays the same until the bottom of the 8th where Kolb loads the bases. McBride isn’t able to completely bail him out, making it a one run game. Then Farnsworth gets the four out save.

  82. 82
    JoeyT Says:

    NICE throw.

  83. 83
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Jeez, Estrada double-clutched and got him anyway. Plus, running here is stupid, as Skip (more or less) said.

  84. 84
    kc Says:

    That’s a very good throw by Estrada…

  85. 85
    drew Says:

    I always hear the TBS guys talking about how Bobby builds his bullpen from the 9th inning backwards. He gets his closer, then figures out his 8th inning guys, then 7th, and so on.

    But it seems more and more like Bobby is using Boyer first, then hoping that some magical bridge will appear to get from him to Farnsworth. Foster’s part of that bridge, but that leaves a lot of magic yet to happen.

  86. 86
    drew Says:

    Also, under that bridge there are a lot of trolls.

  87. 87
    JoeyT Says:

    Why would Mets fans be in DC?

  88. 88
    kc Says:

    If Bobby is really to let Boyer pitching the sixth inning, it must mean Reitsma is ready to pitch tonight…we will see…

    urlhix, you have a great pitching staff, but I tend not to pick a starting pitcher on my first pick. Hey, let’s play in the same league next year!

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    DANNY Says:


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    JoeyT Says:

    They should save the clip for the MLB rulebook, and use it for the definition of “error”.

  91. 91
    JoeyT Says:

    Just out of curiosity, who’s calling the game on ESPN?

  92. 92
    urlhix Says:

    kc, I wasn’t really planning on it, but I got put real low in the draft order and there he was, so I just went with it. This is the first year in many that I’ve been around my computer regularly enough to join a league and it’s been real fun. We should totally have a league for all the folks that hang around this site. That would be a blast!

  93. 93
    kc Says:

    Wow, Davies must be very closed in getting onto the playoff roster…

  94. 94
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Yay, Davies!

  95. 95
    drew Says:

    Phillies are mauling the Marlins, and Clemens is getting roughed up by Milwaukee–he went out with something last start; if it lingers and he’s ineffective, the Astros become much less scary.

  96. 96
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Boo, Davies!

    You still suck, Vinny!

  97. 97
    kc Says:

    Despite the Vinny homer, I still like the idea of using Davies in this role.

  98. 98
    urlhix Says:


    I’m sure you saw the trackback, but did an entry on The Road From Bristol today. I wrote them yesterday to nominate Braves Journal as the best Braves blog and mentioned the tourney, as well, and I guess they hate Stu too. It was cool to see you mentioned as “intrepid”.

  99. 99
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Thanks. I actually emailed him this morning, too. (About Braves Journal, when they get around to linking Braves sites — they appear to be working their way up.) The title of my email was “Shameless linkwhoring”…

  100. 100
    drew Says:

    Oh no, it’s Anonymous Middle Reliever! He owns us!

  101. 101
    JoeyT Says:

    Majewski’s really good, drew. On his best days, he has ridiculous motion on his pitches.

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    kc Says:

    Bobby has more confidence in Davies than in Boyer…interesting…

  103. 103
    urlhix Says:

    Heh. I’m hoping it turns out to be a good site. Most of those Gawker Media sites are, even if you aren’t into what they are covering.

  104. 104
    JoeyT Says:

    Naw, I think it’s what’s drew mentioned earlier. Boyer’s the first out. Then … uh … we need a guy who can go multiple innings. Davies, YOU’RE UP!

  105. 105
    drew Says:

    Actually, Majewski I know, because he looks like he belongs behind the keyboards in a weekend-warrior prog-rock band.

    But the Braves let teams stick around too long by not extending leads in the 6th-8th innings, and that’s quite the danger with our middle relief.

  106. 106
    Mac Thomason Says:

    It’s driving me crazy. Good middle relievers, bad middle relievers, swingmen, starters pressed into service, infielders moonlighting, doesn’t matter. They all own us.

  107. 107
    kc Says:

    This sucks…

  108. 108
    Another Alex R. Says:

    Oh, God, no…

  109. 109
    Another Alex R. Says:

    I guess that’s what you get for walking Cristian Guzman.

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    JoeyT Says:

    My dinner is up to my throat.

    Keep my dinner down, Foster!

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    JoeyT Says:


  112. 112
    urlhix Says:

    I don’t want to think that we just put it on cruise control when we get a lead but it sure seems that way sometimes.

  113. 113
    Mac Thomason Says:

    This is atrocious.

  114. 114
    JoeyT Says:

    Farnsworth needs to come in NOW. This is a far more critical situation than starting an inning with no runners.


  115. 115
    Steffen Says:

    God I hate this pen.

  116. 116
    kc Says:

    This is just chaos, is this Bobby’s plan of using the bullpen after an off-day?! I never find using the bullpen as one of Bobby’s strength…

  117. 117
    Steffen Says:

    Farnsworth needs to come in NOW.

    Absolutely. If Kolb blows it again, I don’t know what I’m going to do. Definitely lose all faith that Bobby will ever make a good in-game decision.

  118. 118
    JoeyT Says:

    That’s what you get. Kolb does this.

  119. 119
    kc Says:

    I hate Bobby more than the bullpen…

  120. 120
    Mac Thomason Says:

    So, we have two relievers. Boyer, who pitches the sixth, and Farnsworth, who is the closer if we have a big enough lead that the guys who pitch the seventh and eighth can’t blow it.

    Well, at least the Marlins are losing.

  121. 121
    Steffen Says:

    Bobby, with all due respect…you suck. Kolb…please do us all a favor and cut off your right arm.

  122. 122
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Dan Kolb, ground ball pitcher.

  123. 123
    drew Says:

    Hopefully, this will finally provoke the kind of hard questions that need to be asked before October. Hopefully, they sit down and restructure the bullpen after today. Because if that’s what happens, then it’s worth losing this game. Otherwise, this is going to be a very brief postseason.

  124. 124
    kc Says:

    This is absolutely lack of plan by Bobby. Using Kolb in this situation is basically hopeless. I don’t agree with using Farnsworth now, the point is Boyer should be saved for the eighth.

  125. 125
    JoeyT Says:

    I still think Reitsma, when healthy, is a good option. I’d like to see Boyer-Farnsworth at the end, but Reitsma’s a solid middle option.

    And how about we see some more Lerew and Devine before the playoffs start? McBride hardly gets any work, either.

  126. 126
    braves rule Says:

    There are a lot of roller coaster pitchers. Bobby Please think over!

  127. 127
    David Remy Says:

    I just tuned in, and I’m sorry I did. Why can’t Bobby and Leo see that Kolb is not getting the job done? Are they waiting for him to fall on his sword or something?

  128. 128
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Alex is going to explode when he sees this. You thought those were F-bombs before?

  129. 129
    JoeyT Says:

    Furcal, just get on base.

    Any way you can.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    Reitsma would be a good pitcher. The trouble is that he has no confidence in himself right now, and he’s a very mentally shaky pitcher, not to mention a reliever with zero stamina, not a good combination. Our best chance would be to trade him for someone ugly but effective, like Joe Borowski or Gary Majewski.

  131. 131
    kc Says:

    Bobby just had an off-day to setup his bullpen, and that his hall of fame way of juggling pieces in the bullpen and showed absolutely no plan whatsoever, make me sick to my stomach. Davies pitching the seventh and the eighth?! Why not sixth and seventh with Boyer pitching the eighth?!

    I don’t even hate Brower and Kolb anymore, and the fault is on Bobby for using them in any kind of meaningful situation.

  132. 132
    kc Says:

    Reitsma is hurt and has been pitching hurt.

  133. 133
    kc Says:

    JoeyT, I think they are shutting down Devine for the rest of this season. I heard he hurt his leg or something…

    Tonight is the situation when I thought trying out Hampton is not a bad idea…

  134. 134
    Another Alex R. Says:

    Speaking of which, Dan Kolb is a [expletive]-ing AWFUL pitcher. He should be taken into the street and shot like a horse. Bobby Cox’s in-game managing abilities, especially in managing his bullpen, are worse than a blind deaf mute.
    Phew! Glad I got that off my chest.

  135. 135
    braves rule Says:

    can’t trust in Kyle Davis. NOT YET. He has a bad controller

  136. 136
    JoeyT Says:

    Another Alex, I think just being fired will be good enough.

    He does NOT need to be taking up a roster spot, though. He’s just bad. Put him on batting practice duty for the rest of the year.

  137. 137
    braves rule Says:

    Oops misspell .He has bad controll.Mac,Whenever I make some mistakes I feel inconvenient at this point.

  138. 138
    Mac Thomason Says:

    You’re a lot better than I am in Korean. (It is Korean, right?)

  139. 139
    Another Alex R. Says:

    Oh, I guess we could just fire the guy. But somehow it would feel anticlimactic, after everything he’s done.

  140. 140
    braves rule Says:

    off topic:
    It’s top secret! kkk!!!
    It is difficult to learn a minority language. Never think about it. Even though I can speak & read some languages, Nothing to guarantee it.

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