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09 Aug

Game Thread: August 9, Braves at Mets

Stupid bullpen.

I’m going to do a list now. The three most exciting baseball players I have seen in my lifetime:

1. Ozzie Smith
2. Rickey Henderson
3. Ichiro

407 Responses to “Game Thread: August 9, Braves at Mets”

  1. 1
    Ron Says:

    Yeah stupid bullpen but Bobby has to handle them better too. How many times is he going to bring in Soriano to blow a game in the 8th inning before he realizes enough is enough?

  2. 2
    beedee Says:

    i’m gonna shoulder the blame for this loss. last night i decided to got to a different pub to watch the game and this is what i get. it won’t happen again…and when the hell is bobby gonna DL Soriano?

    let’s go get’em tonight.

  3. 3
    Stu Says:

    I wanted to thank Alex for this gem from last night:

    I just threw a book across the room.

    In a time of great sorrow, this mental image brightened my night. Good to know there are people out there suffering with me.

  4. 4
    Justin Parker Says:

    Oh my, did you guys not see where that ball was when Alou hit it, that ball was so far inside it was off the plate. That was just a good, mostly fluke, job of hitting an inside pitch. It was not a mistake from Soriano, so you need to quit blaming him, and give Alou a little credit.

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    Marc Schneider Says:

    In fairness to Bobby, Soriano had been pitching well in tie games. It seems strange but, in general, he was struggling more when he had the lead. No more.

    As for the comment in a previous thread about Dotel, are we going to simply give up on him after two appearances?

    In addition to the bullpen problems, this game just continues a pattern that has occurred over the last several weeks of being unable to score runs late in games. Early in the season, the Braves were doing a lot of scoring after the seventh innning, but that has pretty much disappeared.

    Beedee, I will let you take the blame. Now, I can start wearing my Braves hat again. I had been wearing my Nats hat b/c the Braves were losing when I wore the Braves hat and seemed to win when I wore the Washington hat. Maybe winning and losing isn’t connected to what hat I wear?

    You guys in NY, you have my respect. I thought it was bad when I went to Philly in 1993 for the playoff game and the Braves lost but I couldn’t imagine openly rooting for the Braves at Shea Stadium.

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    Stu Says:

    I agree, Marc. Honestly, as frustrating as some of these blown leads are, the most frustrating thing to me is how our offense just seems to die late in games.

    Josh is right about Soriano’s pitch to Alou, and if Smurph or Andruw had come through, we’d have won that game.

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    Ron Says:

    Justin: that’s not what I saw. McCann was set up low and outside and the pitch was belt high and had a lot of the plate. You could see Brian reaching across his body to try to catch it then beating the ground in frustration.

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    Marc Schneider Says:


    Alou deserves credit but it’s really hard to say if it was a good pitch or not. I doubt you would intentionally throw a pitch up and in late in a tied game unless you were Randy Johnson. Don Sutton always used to say (and I think he knows a lot about pitching) to never get beat inside in that situation.

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    Tony Says:

    Wow…Every loss has been gut-wrenching lately, but this one is #1.

    Ok. Who was that guy bringing up AJ OPS for July and August the other day? Well you know what you can do with that OPS. Please DL this guy or start Diaz…he is offering NOTHING. Meanwhile the once Andrum-like slumping Pat Burrell is on FIRE!!

    Frency had been doing well all year w/o trying to hit a homer, just going the other way…then of all nights he reverts back to 2006.

    Bobby. Bobby. Bobby. His bullpen management is beyond deplorable. When Moylan was warming up, I just knew he was coming in…but you bring in Mahay, and then Soriano in the 8th??

    Go get Huddy, b/c with Howard red-hot, Burrell red-hot with the bottom end of the rotation going in Philly….well I’ll just think positive. Mercy

  10. 10
    Stu Says:

    And I said Josh but meant Justin Parker.

    Marc’s point about not getting beat inside is a fair one, though. On 0-2, pitches should be hitting the dirt or above the shoulders.

    I don’t know who to blame. We need to win today to help me just forget about this game completely.

  11. 11
    JoshQ Says:

    Alright, I was wondering why I felt so lonely this morning. I didn’t expect a thread so soon. This is in response to a post of Marc’s on the previous thread.

    I couldn’t even finish your post Marc. At least you admitted that you are a pessimist. Some of what you say may be true. We are/have been essentially a .500 team. I just disagree that the season is over with a loss tonight. If we lost tonight and were 2.5 games back of the Mets, you wouldn’t say the season was over. Yet if we lose tonight, the worst we can be is 2.5 back of San Diego for the wild card. I say anyone with the above mentality needs to take a step back from the ledge. Last year sucked so bad as a fan. I am excited even this morning (after last nights loss) at the race to the finish this season.

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    Justin Parker Says:

    I guess you guys just want to blame Soriano, so I give up.

  13. 13
    Dustin Says:

    @ #3

    Alex throwing a book amuses me as well.

    I ran outside and vomited.

    No lie.

    Andruw literally made me puke.

  14. 14
    JoshQ Says:

    I think we should call up Smitty from the minors and put Andruw on the DL. He could have at least hit a squibber that scored 1 in the 9th.

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    Marc Schneider Says:

    The point is, Justin, that even if it wasn’t necessarily a bad pitch, it’s a dangerous location at that point in the game. Home runs do get hit on high inside pitches unless they are perfectly located. But, yes, it’s bad luck too. When things are going bad for a pitcher, those pitches get hit and when they are going well, they don’t. Soriano really isn’t pitching that badly, he just seems to always throw one pitch that gets crushed. Maybe his karma is bad.


    What bothers me is that it is hard to make a run if you don’t win some close games. And the more of these you lose, the harder it is to win them. I have to believe that the Braves are waiting for bad things to happen in these games. I think that has a lot to do with the lack of hitting in late innings; everyone wants to hit a home run instead of just trying to put together a rally. Francoeur was obviously trying to go deep.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    Josh, I think you’re forgetting something. Smitty doesn’t have “veteran leadership.”

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    Frank Says:

    Not that it matters (indeed it is probably a good thing) but someone on the last thread said Cormier isn’t with the team. Why not or where is he? I thought he got skipped in the rotation (with a reappearance scheduled for the Philly series) but didn’t know he was gone.

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    Tony Says:

    You said it Marc…

    Frenchy was trying to go deep. I use to say the 3 dumbest hitters were Marcus Giles, AJ and Francouer. Well we see what Giles and AJ are doing this year. But Frenchy up until last night was going to right and liking it. All of a sudden he wants to hit a grand slam…off Billy Wagner no less.

    Was anybody else beside me wishing Escobar was batting 7th instead of AJ? I would have loved to see what he could have done against Wagner.

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    Dustin Says:

    I touched on this a few weeks ago, but Soriano very basically only has one pitch. He has a cannon, he even touched 100mph earlier this year (before Bobby killed his arm). But from my observations, guys that can throw 100mph usually throw the ball with very little movement. Major League hitters can catch up to that, not even mentioning that he wasn’t throwing that hard last night.

    Tired arm, lack of a good second pitch, bad location, not changing speeds, and blah blah blah, that is Sorianos problem. You can’t survive in the majors with one pitch, you’ll get bombed, just like Soriano has been.

    The other problem is Bobby running him out there every night and getting the same bad results every time.

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    Marc Schneider Says:


    In fairness to Frency (and I have been tough on him), he is a young guy and probably got caught up in the moment. I guess that supports the idea that the quality of an at-bat can vary depending on the situation. But, as I said, I think it was partly motivated by the desire to get a substantial lead out of fear that the bullpen would blow the game again. I don’t think the hitters trust the bullpen to hold a small lead. But, also, you have to give Wagner some credit too. He’s a hell of a pitcher; it’s not like they were hitting off Chris Reitsma.

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    Frank Says:

    it’s not like they were hitting off Chris Reitsma.


  22. 22
    Tony Says:

    Good thing today’s game starts at 12:10….can forget about that sh*t that happen last night. Bobby, AJ wants to rest his elbow.

  23. 23
    Jorgbacca Says:

    Soriano’s spent. The only thing not perdictable about the homer was that it was a solo shot.

    What surprised me was why Bobby went with Mahay with 2 on in the 7th instead of Moylan who was warming up as well and ended up coming in anyway? Moylan’s our best double play guy right now. Then after using him for one batter why didn’t he leave him in? (I don’t remember the pitchers spot was due up the next inning)

    Last but not least. Boomer says he wants to catch on with another contending team after getting DFA’ed.

    Buy or sell Boomer over Cormier?

  24. 24
    Andy Says:

    I thought Francoeur could at least get one run it to tie the game. I wish he would have been a little more paitient, since Wagner had just given up a 5-pitch walk to a guy who was trying to bunt. I agree with Mac, the DP felt inevitible once Andruw came up.

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    Frank Says:

    Boomer’s erratic, but I’d take a chance on him over Cormier.

  26. 26
    Marc Schneider Says:

    I don’t think Boomer has much left but I would take a shot–what do you have to lose? Cormier is not likely to be the answer.

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    JoshQ Says:

    That was my bad on Cormier. I forgot he was called up because he was subsequently skipped in the rotation.

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    Bobby V Says:

    Jose Reyes is missing from your list.

  29. 29
    JoshQ Says:

    Cormier can’t be much worse than Boomer has already been. I’ll pass on David Wells.

  30. 30
    Stu Says:

    In terms of excitement, Jose Reyes isn’t close to those 3, Bobby V. As a Mets fan, you should understand how bad Steve Phillips’ judgment is—why would you start trusting it now?

  31. 31
    Stu Says:

    Very interesting article from David Gassko over at THT:

  32. 32
    ububba Says:

    Ichiro is my fave, has been since he joined the league. He’s such a freak.

    Does his weird stretches before each AB, runs halfway down the line with each swing, fast as a bullet, has a cannon for an arm.

    Every year since he’s joined the league, I’ve made sure I had Mariners tix when they come to town. Love to see him at least once a year.


    Rooting for the Braves at Shea isn’t such a big deal. When the Braves lose, leaving the stadium is a real death march. But during the game, it’s usually fine. Same thing at Yankee Stadium.

    But, of course, I’ve lived here since 1990, so I’ve developed thicker skin than most.

  33. 33
    Tony Says:


  34. 34
    Mark Graybill Says:

    Unfortunately, I pretty much agree with all the pessimism in Marc Schneider’s earlier post. But I’m a self-admitted gloom-and-doomer.

    But one thing that nobody has mentioned (I think) is Castillo’s “hit.” Mahay completely sawed the bat off, but the ball still fell into no man’s land behind second. I find it hard to blame Mahay for that.

    This team doesn’t often win close, low-scoring games–something the Braves of old did with regularity. It’s hard to make the playoffs with that profile.

    I’m going to make sure I’m busy doing something else besides watching TV or checking the Internet this afternoon. I need a break from this gut-wrenching grind.

  35. 35
    Justin Parker Says:

    You know who’s more exciting the Jose Reyes? Hanley Ramirez.

  36. 36
    Marc Schneider Says:

    Jose Reyes is a pretty exciting player. I don’t see how you can deny that. He steals bases, hits triples. I hate it when he does it against the Braves but you can’t deny he is an exciting player. As for Ichiro, I hardly see him so to say he is one of the most exciting players in the game is a bit much.

  37. 37
    Stu Says:


    I don’t know that anybody’s denying that Jose’s exciting. He’s just not in the class of the 3 Mac listed.


    Plenty of people. People on here. I’ve had conversations about it with friends and I’m sure I’m not alone. I remember Keith Law writing something about him. I think there’s been a piece on THT about him already this year, too. It’s hard to deny that he’s having a less-than-everyone-expected season.

    I’m just shocked that you chose to take a contrary stance, though. That seems so unlike you. I’d be willing to bet a good amount of money—maybe even as much as you make in a day at your job, as you like to so frequently reference—that you read until you found something you could argue with and then stopped. That article is about statistics, anyway, so I’m sure you wouldn’t be interested.

  38. 38
    bmac44 Says:

    One thought. Watching Bobby’s overuse of his bullpen all year, and knowing other teams are having the same problems (i.e. the Dodgers), perhaps it’s time to seriously consider expanding the rosters to 26 players. This comes from an admitted traditionalist in most matters baseball.

  39. 39
    Stu Says:

    Interesting, bmac44.

    I’m a traditionalist myself, and my first inclination is to say, “No, let’s just create incentives in the minor leagues to start developing more stamina for starters.” That would be ideal, but the fact is something like that is unlikely, and the overuse is probably beginning to seriously affect these guys’ careers (see: Chris Reitsma).

    Of course, your proposal is, I’d guess, equally unlikely, but it’s certainly worth discussing, IMO.

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    bmac44 Says:

    You’re right Stu, my proposal is unlikely as it would be a major bone of contention between the owners and the player’s association, but I think it’s time to give it some serious consideration.

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    Marc Schneider Says:

    I really don’t see how you can put Ozzie Smith above Reyes. He was a great shortstop but I wouldn’t call him exciting. I certainly don’t see how you could put him above Ricky Henderson. If those are the choices, I would definitely put Reyes in there before Ozzie.

    I will say this about Reyes though. Why do the ESPN announcers feel compelled to make everything he does sound like the greatest play in baseball history? Last night, Escobar hit a ground ball in the hole and Reyes threw him out. It was a nice play but essentially one any big league shortstop ought to make. From the way the announcers described the play, you would have thought it was the second coming of Ozzie. He isn’t the only player they do that with. It’s as if they have no idea of what a big leaguer is supposed to do.

  42. 42
    Stu Says:

    Well, I wouldn’t put Ozzie at the top of my list, either, but he’d be ahead of Reyes. (I am legitimately excited by great defense.) I guess what “excites” me are truly unique players. Reyes is good, but we’ve seen Reyes in other forms before. We’ve never really seen the 3 guys Mac lists before or since.

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    RI Guy Says:

    Nothing was more gloomy than last night’s horror show or Andruw Jones’s incompetence at the plate, but if the Braves can pull one out today, it will still be a nice series win with another extremely important series coming up.

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    Marc Schneider Says:

    I would think the players would love a 26th roster spot. There’s nothing really traditionalist about the number. It has varied over the years; I believe in the 1920s it was less than 25. I think bmac’s proposal is sound given the different use of pitchers. The owners, of course, would resist because it would involve more money, although it couldn’t be much more since the 26th player would presumably not be making much.

  45. 45
    Stu Says:

    Would the rosters expand to 41 and 61?

    And, I’m sorry, but if it’s been a 25-man roster since the 1920s, that’s something of a tradition.

  46. 46
    Rufino Linares Says:

    I know it is trite but I put Bo Jackson at the top of my list of exciting baseball players. I think I would have watched Bo Jackson drop a deuce back in his heyday, actually.

  47. 47
    JoshQ Says:

    The roster being 25 men is not the problem with the tired bullpen. Our 3rd starter can’t go more than 5 innings and our 4/5th starters are unpredictable a lot of the time.

    Also, I find it interesting that Tony didn’t send in a rebuttal to Stu’s earlier response.

  48. 48
    Tony Says:


    What would my day be like without Stu “letting me have it”. Sure B-Mac is having a subpar season or worse than last year. But with the issues the Braves had at 1st base, centerfield, the lack of power from the corner outfield positions, the bullpen, 3 thru 5 in the starting rotation…critizing B-Mac was/is sort of low on my list.

    “I’d be willing to bet a good amount of money—maybe even as much as you make in a day at your job, as you like to so frequently reference”

    So frequently reference? Huh? I don’t think I have ever mentioned my salary…wait I know I haven’t. Damn Stu…you are good.

  49. 49
    Tony Says:

    Josh Q,

    Give me time I am at work…

  50. 50
    Stu Says:


    The timing here is too funny.


    The issue wasn’t whether McCann should be criticized but whether he has been. That’s what was referenced in the article and even by you @33.

    And you reference the fact that you make money—yesterday, for example, or when you insulted someone for being a teacher—with a lot more frequency than anybody else here does. I didn’t say you reference your actual salary.

  51. 51
    Marc Schneider Says:

    McCann’s “falloff” was probably predictable. I don’t think you could reasonably expect him to hit .330 again playing catcher in the South. Mauer gets to play in air conditioning half the year. McCann is probably more typically a .280-.290 hitter with significant power. He’s not that far off considering the injuries. His defense is more disturbing but I suspect that is also a function, at least in part, of his injuries.

  52. 52
    JoshQ Says:

    The reference yesterday was something like, another great money making day for me. I don’t think that would even get noticed if a majority of the posters here said it, but your general propensity to stir things up around here made it stick out.

    I also must say that my timing is impeccable this morning.

  53. 53
    Tony Says:


    WHOA!! Before you start typing out of your ass, you need to reread yesterday’s post.

    When have I ever referenced my salary on here? I think you have me confused with someone else. Now I have defended Escobar, question the hatred of Bonds, teased the stats brigade, etc., but I have never been critical of someone being a teacher? I’m calling you out on that one…if you can find that post from yesterday where I criticized someone for being a teacher then you got me…if not then I think you need to take a nap or something. What is wrong with you…lol

  54. 54
    Tony Says:


    Thanks Marc…for reminding of that comment on my way out the door. Geez, if people took that as me saying I make a lot of money…then I don’t know what to say.

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    Ron Says:

    If the Braves need more relief pitching, they can simply drop deadweights like Woodward from the roster in favor of another reliever. No need for a 26th player. You could get Smoltz or Hudson to pinch hit on days they don’t start and get about the same results Woodward gives and replace Corky Miller with Brayan Pena so you’d have somebody capable of playing multiple defensive positions.

  56. 56
    Tony Says:

    Sorry that was Josh Q…not Marc

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    Stu Says:


    Well, is it my “general propensity to stir things up around here” that made it stick out, or is it that I wouldn’t have even noticed “if a majority of the posters on here said it”? You contradict yourself.

    With that said, it’s the second that’s true. I wouldn’t have noticed, because, for one, nobody else says that, and secondly, Tony has made reference to his own moneymaking (for example, the teacher thing) before.

    I’ve certainly gotten into my fair share of arguments on here, but I don’t think characterizing me as one who likes to stir things up is accurate or fair at all. It’s ironic that I’m accused of this (1) in an argument with Tony, of all people, and (2) by someone who wasn’t even in the argument. The “stirring things up” label would better be applied to either of you.


    I suggest you search the archives for “Game Thread: July 18, Cardinals at Braves”.

  58. 58
    Tony Says:

    No Stu…I’m not searching the game thread from July 18th…

    If you think I’m going back and search soemthing that I wrote 21 days ago…then you really have too much time on your hands.

  59. 59
    Joshua Says:

    My 2 cents:

    Andruw should NOT go to the DL, and he should play every day. We have a strong enough lineup to deal with his ineptitude (as long as he hits down in the order like last night). I would say that I would have pinch hit for him last night, however. I just think we forget about his defense at times. We REALLY need his presense in the outfield – he takes away alot of hits.

  60. 60
    Stu Says:

    The problem, Joshua, is that once you decide to play him, you just can’t pinch-hit for him in a late-game situation like that. This is Andruw Jones. Yes, he’s been awful, but he’s still an iconic-type player. It could be a serious clubhouse problem if you were to do something like that. “We trust him enough to play, but not when it counts.” I just don’t see how Bobby could go there.

    Much better to either not play him or disable him, IMO.

  61. 61
    Hate King Says:

    I agree with Stu; it is all or nothing with Druw. Either sit him down or allow him to hit in “clutch” situations. Since he has played with this injury throughout the year, I’m sure he will continue to play injured and doesn’t want a DL stint to further compromise his impending free agency.

  62. 62
    Tony Says:


    Just being the devil’s advocate…he didn’t take any hits away last night. And him batting down in the order still cost us the game.


    You are too funny. I just read what I wrote to Ryan b/c he had calculated how many words I had typed that day on bravesjournal…and here is the quote:

    “A high school teacher…what you need to borrow some money or something? Is that why you are keeping up with the number of words I have typed on this website in the last 8 hours? Lol you kids are hilarious”.

    You remember that Stu…you are starting to scare me.

  63. 63
    Ron Says:

    Andruw’s numbers for July look like his old self: .263/.370/.566/.935. He’s been bad so far in August. I’m not sure whether that’s because it’s taking him a while to recover from the cortisone shot or his arm is just hurting more than it did in July. I’m not sure the team would be any better with Harris in CF and Thorman as the lefthanded half of the leftfielder platoon. Unless you feel confident Brandon Jones would immediately be able to hit major league pitching, there’s probably nothing to be done but just let Andruw try to work his way out of his recent slump.

  64. 64
    Tony Says:

    “Recent slump” Haha. That’s funny.

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    Justin Parker Says:

    I would take the bad Andruw anyday over Thorman in a left field platoon.

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    Wryn Says:

    Anyone else agree with me that today is about as close as you’ll come to a must-win game in August?

  67. 67
    Stu Says:

    Indeed, Tony. I have opinions about the various people who post on this site. I base these opinions on what they’ve said. I remember both my opinions, always subject to modification, and the bases therefor (the statements).

    If it creeps you out that I remember the things you’ve said in the past, I think it says a lot more about you than it does about me.

  68. 68
    Stu Says:

    I do, Wryn. As I actually mentioned to Alex earlier today, there’s a strong chance that my confidence level in Hudson going forward will be almost entirely based on what he does today.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    There was a time, in the eighties I think, when the owners briefly, unilaterally, and voluntarily, used 24 players. It didn’t last very long. Similarly, there was a proposal on the table a couple of rounds of CBA negotiations back to go from 25 to 28 men if the players would agree to ditch the DH.

    Bill James has argued that 25 is really too many players, that if you allow a roster that big there are too many specialists and not enough complete players. I can see his point, but the problem now is the giant bullpens — there are almost no playing specialists anymore.

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    Ron Says:

    Wryn, I agree that it’s a must win if the Braves hope to win the division. I don’t see this team having the will or ability to come back from 5.5 games at this point. The wild card is still very much a possibility if they lose today, but I would be shocked if they lose today then end up winning the division.

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    Wryn Says:

    Does Harris EVER swing at the first pitch from the leadoff?

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    Ron Says:

    Contract a few teams then the quality of the 24th and 25th men on the remaining teams’ rosters would increase and they wouldn’t need to have an expanded roster.

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    Boomer Says:

    I’m not as good as Cormier :(

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    JoshQ Says:

    “I don’t think that would even get noticed if a majority of the posters here said it, but your general propensity to stir things up around here made it stick out.”
    That was directed at Tony not Stu. Jeez!!! It was just a word of warning to him as to why I think it was even brought up.

  75. 75
    Justin Parker Says:

    Well Boomer you might be crap, but at least you could be crap for more than 3-5 innings.

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    Murphy3Ever Says:

    i’m not over last night yet. i just talked about it with the bus driver for 20 minutes on the way home from school (there are some older braves fans around wisconsin from the milwaukee days)… but i don’t really want to relive it with chip. please just stop talking about it.

    and let’s not have any drama… score 45 runs and move on down 95.

  77. 77
    Tony Says:

    “If it creeps you out that I remember the things you’ve said in the past, I think it says a lot more about you than it does about me.”

    I think it says that I don’t take this too seriously as you do. I mean I have an idea of what people think about certain situations, but quotes from 21 days ago…don’t think so.

    Anyway, which website will I follow the game on?

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    Tony Says:

    Josh Q

    I was going to tell Stu that was for me, but I thought I would let you do it…lol

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    Hate King Says:

    I just received an email from my Mets friend with the subject heading “Pedro”.

    Here is the text of the email:

    “He gave up a homer last night to someone named Deik Scram.


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    Ron Says:

    The gameday link on is pretty nice. That’s what I’m watching at work. ;)

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    JoshQ Says:

    Yeah, I had to respond because I got my … chewed for it.

    Well, I’m taking an early lunch and to watch some of the game. See you all later.

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    Ron Says:

    Damn. Why does it seem like Reyes never makes an out vs the Braves?

  83. 83
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    even when reyes gets a weak swing on a good pitch, they can’t keep him off the bases…

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    Stu Says:


    Very sorry. No hard feelings…please?

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    Murphy3Ever Says:


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    Wryn Says:

    There’s yet another “Reyes Run”

    Geez, he’s good at that.

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    Murphy3Ever Says:

    so wagner had a quote about soriano not getting the memo about alou hitting fastballs.

    apparently wagner didn’t get the memo that soriano only throws fastballs.

    (i know… it actually was a decent pitch, but it’s just a tired act from soriano)

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    mike Says:

    anybody know where i can listen to the game online?


  89. 89
    Wryn Says:

    That’s why I created “Facebook’s First Ever Willie Harris Fan Club”

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    Tony Says:

    I wish we had a Reyes…:(

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    Murphy3Ever Says:

    by the way… Dale Murphy is chatting on “sportsnation” on at 1pm…

  92. 92
    Tony Says:

    Tell Dale the Braves will still be playing the Met at 1pm…haha

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    Murphy3Ever Says:


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    Murphy3Ever Says:

    another slow roller to the left side of the infield

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    Stu Says:

    I propose that we score several runs.

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    RobBroad4th Says:

    I will see your several runs, Stu, and raise you for an assload of runs.

  97. 97
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    nice KJ

    i thought he was too slow for triples.. heh heh

  98. 98
    Jeremy Says:


  99. 99
    Tony Says:

    Another runner left on 3rd…great.

  100. 100
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    chip just said he enjoys the speed game (of reyes) more than the HR power of chipper, tex, or andruw because of its unpredictability. You never know when he’ll drop a bunt or steal a base.

    chip… if you know when andruw’s actually going to hit a HR, i think that would be valuable info for mr. bobby cox.

  101. 101
    Jeremy Says:

    We really need to stop giving up hits to Castillo. He’s garbage.

  102. 102
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Man, the Mets’ offense is like death by a thousand cuts. Well, except for the bomb from Alou that is. Ozzie Guillen must love this approach.

  103. 103
    Wryn Says:

    What did Soriano do to Joe? Why does Joe hate him so much?

  104. 104
    Ron Says:

    #99, If he likes Reyes so much, he’s welcome to go broadcast for the Mets.

  105. 105
    Wryn Says:

    Teixeira’s gotta start producing.. NOW.

  106. 106
    Ron Says:

    Hudson didn’t get the memo that we needed a shut out today. :(

  107. 107
    ububba Says:

    Gotta keep it close here & have a little offensive outburst.

  108. 108
    Ron Says:

    #104, .267/.361/.633/.994, 3 HR, 9 RBI. Looks like pretty good production to me.

  109. 109
    Phillip Says:

    This game was over before it started.

  110. 110
    JoshQ Says:

    Stu, No hard feelings at all. In fact I think I was once part of the Rational Train with you a couple years ago. So, We go way back. :)

    P.S. This sucks… 2-0

  111. 111
    Tony Says:

    Who would have thought the Castillo pick up would be more valuable that Tex,Mahay and Dotel.

  112. 112
    Michael Says:

    Here comes the DP.

  113. 113
    Wryn Says:

    Redeem yourself, Andruw!

  114. 114
    Wryn Says:

    2-1. They pitch to Escobar here with first occupied.

  115. 115
    Ron Says:

    Is it just me or does Escobar’s picture on Gameday look like Shrek?

  116. 116
    ububba Says:

    Alright, there’s one. Shut ’em down, Huddy. We’ll get it back.

  117. 117
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Hudson leading off two innings plus his pitch count….I forsee a Dotel sighting.

  118. 118
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    way to lead it off huddy

  119. 119
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    Murphy, you were my hero growing up! Why don’t the clean players force the union’s hand to push for more precise and thorough testing?

  120. 120
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    ooooooooops… wrong message board. ha!

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    Murphy3Ever Says:


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    RobBroad4th Says:


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    Murphy3Ever Says:

    met killer! that was a bomb!

  124. 124
    Michael Says:

    you da man Larry.

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    ermoore Says:


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    Tony Says:


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    King Diamond Says:

    The Mets must hate Chipper worse than just about anything…

  128. 128
    Murphy3Ever Says:


    back to back. sweet. that’s why he’s here!

  129. 129
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Chipper’s taking away RBI opportunities from Tex. :)

  130. 130
    bmac44 Says:

    I almost shouted out loud when I saw the homer on Gamecast. Way to go Chipper! Pile some more on Braves!

  131. 131
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    Getting it done. Sweet!

  132. 132
    ermoore Says:

    HAHAHAHA Chip AND Tex!!

  133. 133
    Hate King Says:

    Blast off!

  134. 134
    Nasa from france Says:

    The season is not over.

  135. 135
    Tony Says:

    Ok now just send Soriano, Yates to Philly right now…and we will be OK.

  136. 136
    Hate King Says:

    What is Hudson’s pitch count?

  137. 137
    King Diamond Says:

    Hudson: 71

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    Hate King Says:


  139. 139
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    geez. reyes again.

  140. 140
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    come on huddy.

  141. 141
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    This fire needs to be put out right now.

  142. 142
    ByDesign Says:

    Damn damn damn.

    And Green is up.

  143. 143
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    that was way tooooo close. why does green have such great swings only against the braves?

  144. 144
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    ummm… huddy?

  145. 145
    ermoore Says:

    This is not cool. I wish we had someone dependable in the bullpen that we could bring in to put out the fire.

  146. 146
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Thank God.

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    Murphy3Ever Says:


  148. 148
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    That was way too close.

  149. 149
    Hate King Says:

    quit walking reyes! i was sweating that inning out.

  150. 150
    Tony Says:

    I can breathe again….damn

  151. 151
    Ron Says:

    That was almost like a flashback to Bad Hudson from last year. Few things in baseball more infuriate me than pitchers giving back runs right after the team scores them.

  152. 152
    Jeremy Says:

    A few more runs would calm my nerves, fellas.

  153. 153
    Tony Says:

    Please score some more runs so I can get my work done…

  154. 154
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    sweet. glad that worked out.

  155. 155
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    Nice hustle. Let’s get him home.

  156. 156
    Joshua Says:

    anyone else see Maine’s picture on gameday – looks like such a goofball…

  157. 157
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    huddy just threw his bat into the stands on strike 2.

    chip: “the ukranian judge gives him a 9.7”

    umm… chip… they don’t give scores for the hammer throw.

  158. 158
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    nice squeeze. way to lay it down huddy!

  159. 159
    ermoore Says:

    Sweet!! A squeeze play! Way to go Bobby!

  160. 160
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Wow, a Bobby Cox risk has paid off! Haven’t seen that in a while.

  161. 161
    Another Alex R. Says:

    You know, I think I actually owe Yunel an apology. He is a legitimate sparkplug. I don’t know how the hell we’ll find playing time for him, but he seems to get in the middle of more rallies, and make more good things happen — like that awesome stolen base while no one was looking — than anyone else I can think of.

  162. 162
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Ha! Scott Schoenweis! Forgive my self-indulgence, but he’s the only MLB pitcher of which I can truly say, “I can hit that guy.” I faced him when I was trying to walk onto Duke’s baseball team, we were both freshmen. He hung a curve to me 0-1 and I splashed it off the fence in left-center for a double. So back then, he sucked. Of course, since I got cut, that doesn’t say much for my skills either…

  163. 163
    Remy Says:

    Remember how much trouble Hudson had bunting last year? His hard work has paid off. Good job, Hudson!

  164. 164
    doubledawg Says:

    this will sound horrible, but is not meant to offend.
    Does Jose Reyes set anyone else’s gaydar off.? his manerism’s on the field can be a bit fabulous.

  165. 165
    Another Alex R. Says:

    Durn it, Chipper.

  166. 166
    Keith the Champ Says:

    I started to wonder when Reyes requested that trade to Boston a few years back, citing his desire to “Hang out naked with Johnny Damon.”

  167. 167
    Rufino Linares Says:

    The Braves and Hudson needed that inning. Nice job Tim.

  168. 168
    Smitty Says:

    Big Tex with a good start this inning

  169. 169
    ermoore Says:

    Is Hudson gonna stick around for another inning? I think he might as well (but with a short-ish leash).

  170. 170
    Kenny Says:

    We could not have asked for anything better. The Mets just brought in Sosa. This inning has to be good for at least two more runs.

  171. 171
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    Sosa must pay.

  172. 172
    Smitty Says:

    I’ll give up two for a run

  173. 173
    Keith the Champ Says:

    Now huddy can go out there and pitch with some comfort

  174. 174
    Rufino Linares Says:

    If Yunel gets a hit, pinch-hitter?

  175. 175
    Keith the Champ Says:

    I don’t see why gamecast doesnt have a picture of Escobar. They could just find a picture of Nick Cannon and throw a braves cap on him.

  176. 176
    Hate King Says:

    who was that coming out of the ‘pen?

  177. 177
    RobBroad4th Says:


    Good call, he does look a lot like Nick Cannon.

  178. 178
    Keith the Champ Says:

    It’s uncanny

  179. 179
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I’ve been stopped a number of times and told I look like Chipper Jones. I can sort of see it.

    I’m on the right:

  180. 180
    Tony Says:


    Don’t you have to be gay to have gaydar? I mean if you are that’s cool…but I thought that was a requirement. Reyes just seems VERY COCKY to me.

    C’mon Frenchy…please don’t start trying to pull everything.

  181. 181
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    I hear “Mahay” and I think of Sam Malone’s nickname. Wish that wasn’t the case.

  182. 182
    Keith the Champ Says:

    I hear Mahay and i think “leadoff walk”

  183. 183
    ermoore Says:

    Tony, pretty sure anyone can have gaydar. Actually, I think everyone has gaydar, some people’s just isn’t very good.

  184. 184
    Tony Says:

    Leadoff walk again….shit

  185. 185
    Another Alex R. Says:

    You don’t actually have to be gay to have gaydar, though growing up gay can certainly help refine your gaydar’s effectiveness. As a particularly unperceptive straight man, who is routinely incapable of understanding most female nonverbal communication, my gaydar is awful. But many people are able to get pretty good.

  186. 186
    Tony Says:


    Really. I’m going to email one of my gay co-workers and see what he says. I’m pretty sure it will a 1000 word response.

  187. 187
    Another Alex R. Says:

    7 runs on 10 hits… the Braves have had pretty good offensive efficiency today. The last few weeks, it seemed like we had to get about 20 hits to get 7 runs.

  188. 188
    King Diamond Says:

    This Ron Mahay guy is okay by me.

  189. 189
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    Even though he got out of it, I simply detest the lead off walks from our bullpen. That would be an interesting look back to see how many innings the bullpen has walked the leadoff guy and how many times he scored. Seems to happen too often. At least make them earn it.

  190. 190
    Tony Says:

    Good Job Lefty…

  191. 191
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    You don’t have to be gay to have “gaydar” … but some people are better inclined. My girlfriend has several gay friends/coworkers and her “gaydar” is exceptionally keen … and she made a similar observation about Reyes’ movements during the May series at Turner Field.

  192. 192
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    Willie was scared of Thorman?

  193. 193
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Is it just me, or has Prado gotten fatter? I hardly recognized him.

  194. 194
    Another Alex R. Says:

    I would guess that Willie was scared of Jorge Sosa. As have been most of his managers.

  195. 195
    Keith the Champ Says:

    Did anyone see the episode of the office where Michael and Dwight were trying to order a “Gaydar” off the internet? Priceless.

  196. 196
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    True AAR. Come on Chipper, put this away.

  197. 197
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    wow… sonny and teixeira.

    i know everyone knows that chip says dumb stuff… but he just never stops.

  198. 198
    Another Alex R. Says:

    God have mercy… Peter Moylan’s already up to 62 innings pitched.

  199. 199
    Rufino Linares Says:

    OK, a five pitch innning- you’ve GOT to leave him in for th 9th right?

  200. 200
    Stephen Says:

    Moylan is the man….

  201. 201
    Zach Says:

    5 pitches baby! That’s how it’s done.

  202. 202
    Another Alex R. Says:

    Rufino, he’s pitched nearly 63 innings this year! There’s a month and a half left in the season!

  203. 203
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    Way to go Pete. I assume we are trotting out the rotund one for the 9th. To that I say God have mercy.

  204. 204
    Tony Says:


    62 innings? Jesus help us. B/C it looks like he is the set-up guy.

    Wow this would have been a sweep if we would have brought him in last night…but I see Bobby was saving him for the 8th inning last night.

    Who closes Wickman or Dotel?

  205. 205
    Rufino Linares Says:

    No argument about the # of IP, but damn, five pitches hardly seems like much of a strain- it’s almost like he just warmed up in the pen and didn’t get into the game at this point.

  206. 206
    Hate King Says:

    I think Bobby brings in Wickman.

  207. 207
    disgruntledfan Says:

    Keep Moylan in.

  208. 208
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    i’m guessing it’s beluga bob

  209. 209
    ermoore Says:

    I really hate it when the ESPN Gametracker is ahead of the radio. It’s a couple pitches ahead and doesn’t even throw up a spoiler alert . . .

  210. 210
    anon Says:

    does that make Paronto Baby Beluga? In the deep blue sea?

  211. 211
    avery Says:

    that looked like Yates…

  212. 212
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    209 — did you see that andruw K’d before you heard it? not much of a spoiler there. doh

  213. 213
    Rufino Linares Says:

    25 pitches for Mota in a 1-2-3 inning, I bet that’s pretty unusual…

  214. 214
    Stu Says:

    A 25-pitch, 1-2-3 inning for Mota. At least we made him work for it.

  215. 215
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    210 — nice.

    by the way… i think “beluga bob” is a creation of brad evans on yahoo. i’m pretty sure that’s where i read it.

  216. 216
    Stephen Says:

    It would have been nice to have gotten another run in the 9th–especially after the first two games against Mets.

    I am guessing that its Wickman….

  217. 217
    Tony Says:

    The “gay in our office” just told me that straight people, particularly guys, cannot have gaydar…b/c they are not gay. He said gay men people like to know who else is gay for obvious reasons.

    I ask him about Jose Reyes, he said he didn’t know but would love to find out…LOL

  218. 218
    Stu Says:

    Beat me by mere seconds, Rufino.

  219. 219
    avery Says:

    the TBS flash to the bullpen looked like Yates was out there by himself

  220. 220
    Smitty Says:


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    Wryn Says:

    Well, two out of three. I’m cool with this.

  222. 222
    ryan c Says:

    in response to joe and chip discussing the acquisition of david wells: we’ve already had a fat over-the-hill lefty this year and it didn’t work out. why in the hell would we want another one?

  223. 223
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    surprise — it’s kali

  224. 224
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Stu, my bad. Great minds and all that, I guess.

  225. 225
    Stu Says:

    I don’t even know what emotion I am or should be feeling right now.

  226. 226
    Stu Says:

    I don’t even know what emotion I am or should be feeling right now.

  227. 227
    Another Alex R. Says:

    Tony, I’m not sure that I’d agree that the one gay guy who’s handy to answer this question necessarily speaks for the entire queer community, or can say with absolute certainty whether only gay men can identify other gay men as gay.

    Plenty of straight women can do it, certainly.

  228. 228
    Stephen Says:

    I wonder whats wrong with Wickman…Kali is off to a great start….

  229. 229
    Stephen Says:

    Can we bring Moylan back?

  230. 230
    Another Alex R. Says:

    Stu, I’d say a mixture of hope and fear would be in order.

  231. 231
    Dan Says:

    Why not Moylan? He threw like four or five pitches in the eighth.

  232. 232
    Dan Says:

    I don’t like this Yates decision, I really don’t.

  233. 233
    ermoore Says:


  234. 234
    Murphy3Ever Says:



  235. 235
    Dan Says:

    Here we go.

  236. 236
    King Diamond Says:

    Kyle Davies has a no-hitter in the 5th against Minnesota…

  237. 237
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Bobby, for the love of God, get him out of there.

  238. 238
    Dan Says:

    Bobby Cox thinks four run leads are safe. I guess he hasn’t seen the Braves blow enough of them yet.

  239. 239
    Murphy3Ever Says:


  240. 240
    Stu Says:

    Oh, my.

  241. 241
    Stephen Says:

    Apparently the Braves don’t have anybody warming up….

  242. 242
    disgruntledfan Says:

    My gosh, do we not have one decent reliever?

  243. 243
    Wryn Says:

    I spoke too soon.

  244. 244
    Tony Says:

    Why couldn’t Moylan go one more inning…this guy is worhthless…DAMN

  245. 245
    Remy Says:

    Please, let’s change the reel. I’ve seen this movie already.

  246. 246
    Stephen Says:

    The Vulture has begun to throw…I really wish we had gotten some more runs in Mota’s 25 pitch inning…

  247. 247
    Tony Says:

    worthless…that is

  248. 248
    disgruntledfan Says:

    One out.

  249. 249
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    245 — and we’ve all memorized chip’s lines

  250. 250
    doubledawg Says:

    I’m straight, but I think I’ve got a decent gaydar. In my experience, gay guys tend to be much more perceptive, lets say, military grade gaydar. I actually posted that questions hoping someone on the board might be a gay male and have a more “expert” opinion on Jose Reyes. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  251. 251
    Kenny Says:

    I cannot wait to get out of New York, if only so we do not have to see Reyes any more. I am not going to lie, I kind of felt that he was a little over-rated being in New York and all, but that guy scares me.

  252. 252
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    I must be insane to keep watching this every day.

  253. 253
    Downtown ATL Says:

    Urge to Kill Shrinking…

  254. 254
    Stephen Says:

    Lets get the next 2…

  255. 255
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    this is ridiculous

  256. 256
    disgruntledfan Says:


  257. 257
    anon Says:

    few things are more surreal than multiple conversation threads on a linear message board.

  258. 258
    Dan Says:

    “My gosh, do we not have one decent reliever?”

    Peter Moylan. But Cox thinks he’s winded after a whole four pitches in the eighth.

    I say it again, this is on Bobby Cox’s head if this game is blown.

  259. 259
    Downtown ATL Says:

    Sweet the bases are empty.

  260. 260
    disgruntledfan Says:

    Bobby…nevermind. I’ve said it all.
    Moylan rots on the bench.

  261. 261
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Urge to kill … rising

  262. 262
    Stephen Says:

    Damn!!! We are in danger of reaching a new low: and that is saying something!

    Kali needs to go to Richmond…

  263. 263
    ermoore Says:

    So we can agree that going with Yates was a bad idea, right? Where the hell is Wickman?!!

  264. 264
    Hate King Says:

    This is absurd. I can’t handle this much longer.

  265. 265
    doubledawg Says:

    wow. I decided to fire up the Slingplayer just in time to see that homerun. sometimes technology hurts.

  266. 266
    braves14 Says:

    Okay, when Devine is eligible he needs to get back up here. Paronto couldn’t be worse than Yates

  267. 267
    Stu Says:

    Tyler Yates: Great reliever…or greatest reliever?

  268. 268
    Stephen Says:

    Its pretty amazing: last week we traded for 3 relievers and for the second time in less than 24 hours our bullpen is about to lose it for us….

  269. 269
    Rufino Linares Says:

    I do not mean this to be negative- though I guess by default it is- but even if the Mets lose this game, if I was a Mets fan I would not be worried about the Braves. This bullpen is a mess, and Bobby’s handling of it questionable…

  270. 270
    disgruntledfan Says:

    Apparently Wickman and Dotel are hurt, and Soriano sucks, so this is pretty much it.

  271. 271
    Stu Says:

    Seriously, where is Wickman? Or Dotel?

  272. 272
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    Sweet mother, I walk out to a meeting for 20 minutes and come back to hear it’s a one run game?!? Yates?? For the love of God Bobby you are an idiot!

  273. 273
    Chuck G Says:

    Never thought I’d say it, but I’m starting to think it’s time for Bobby to go. His bullpen management this year has been beyond indefensible.

  274. 274
    Kenny Says:

    I am about to throw my work computer across the room. Damn you Yates!

  275. 275
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    what a catch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  276. 276
    Tony Says:

    Now who in the hell is going to pitch to Delgado and Alou….this is sickening.

  277. 277
    Dan Says:

    Willie Harris for president!

  278. 278
    disgruntledfan Says:

    Oh MY GOSH…

  279. 279
    Remy Says:


  280. 280
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    The Vulture … well, the vultures are circling around our team right now.

  281. 281
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    willie saved me from breaking the tv

  282. 282
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Willie is amazing. Give that man a hand.

  283. 283
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    I’m having a heart attack.

  284. 284
    disgruntledfan Says:

    That was bad-ass.

  285. 285
    Tony Says:

    OK guys what did we miss?

  286. 286
    Downtown ATL Says:

    You are f’ing kidding me Willy!

  287. 287
    Downtown ATL Says:

    You are f’ing kidding me Willy!

  288. 288
    Davey Says:

    That may have saved the season

  289. 289
    ermoore Says:

    Did Willie steal that? Was that as impressive as it sounded on the radio?!

  290. 290
    Stephen Says:


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    Another Alex R. Says:

    Can someone describe Willie’s catch to me?

  292. 292
    Wryn Says:

    Gameday says that was a home run – did Willie rob it?

  293. 293
    Tennessee Brave Says:

    My buddy just called me and said Willie took one away. Sounds good to me.

  294. 294
    Stu Says:

    Describe! Describe!

  295. 295
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Gameday shows that ball that Delgado just hit leaving the yard yet it was a flyout to left- what did Willie do exactly? Did he go over the fence for it?

  296. 296
    Dan Says:


  297. 297
    Murphy3Ever Says:

    thank goodness

  298. 298
    Downtown ATL Says:

    Pete’s voice went up two ocataves.

  299. 299
    Davey Says:

    Payback is a Eva Longoria….. Wow!

  300. 300
    disgruntledfan Says:

    ballgame! now get the hell out of NY before they somehow lose the game.
    willie may have saved the season!

  301. 301
    Dan Says:

    “did Willie rob it?”


  302. 302
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Give that W to Wille!

    Yates and Soriano need to be DFAed. I blame Bobby for overusing them.

    Where is Wickman??

  303. 303
    King Diamond Says:

    Braves take 2 of 3 in New York. Cheer up, people!

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    ermoore Says:


  305. 305
    Remy Says:

    Willie pulled a page from Endy Chavez’s playbook. Way to go, Willie!

  306. 306
    Brian J. Says:

    Save- Harris (1)

  307. 307
    Davey Says:

    For those who couldn’t see it…..yes, Willie robbed it. Play of the year for us right there.

  308. 308
    Smitty Says:

    I heard it on the radio, how great of a catch was it? Otis Nixson esk?

  309. 309
    Stephen Says:

    Thats about as close as it should ever get–especially with the Mets.

  310. 310
    Ron Says:

    #268, JS can go and get relievers but he can’t make Bobby use them sanely. Soriano and Yates were already on the team anyway (unfortunately).

  311. 311
    Oceanside Mike Says:

    My gosh, only the Braves could make it that interesting.

  312. 312
    disgruntledfan Says:

    Willie went back, leaped up over the wall and grabbed what would have been the tying HR. Just an incredible grab. Brought it back from over the wall.

  313. 313
    braves14 Says:

    Willie Harris saves the season, robbing a Delgado homer.

  314. 314
    Stu Says:

    I will say not another negative word about Willie Harris this season. Nor will I suggest that he ever be moved down in the order.

    Thank goodness this mess is over. 8-4 against the Mets. They can’t even beat us when we try to hand it to them!

  315. 315
    ike Says:

    someone tell me what happened with willie’s catch, i can’t watch at work

  316. 316
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I haven’t seen a HR rob that great since Otis Nixon. Not as much vertical by Willie, but hey definitely got up there and made it look easy.

  317. 317
    Another Alex R. Says:

    Okay, Stu.

    Willie Harris: great American… or greatest American?

  318. 318
    Jimbo B. Says:

    willie deserves a new contract for his play today while kali deserves a bullet.

  319. 319
    doubledawg Says:

    Im not sure it was gone, but it was close

  320. 320
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Willie Harris justified his presence for the entire season with one catch.

  321. 321
    ermoore Says:

    Not pretty (w/ re: bullpen), but we’ll take it.

  322. 322
    Stephen Says:


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    anon Says:

    we deserved to pull one out after last night.

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    Ethan Says:


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    lunatic96 Says:

    It was a beautiful catch. Basically he ran to the wall, jumped up and snagged the ball as it was going over the fence.

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    Tennessee Brave Says:

    I am at work, but I can’t wait to get home and see the highlight.

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    RobBroad4th Says:

    Chipper said these games would be wars. Honestly I’m surprised we won the first game so easily.

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    Davey Says:

    Hudson keeps his name in that Cy Young race. 13-5 and that is including the Wickman/Florida meltdown game.

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    Tennessee Brave Says:

    Boy, that has to be deflating for the Mets.

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    njbravesfan Says:

    Kyle Davies 5 innings 1 hit today vs the Twins….

    I thikn a stint on the DL would help Soriano and Yates.
    Bring up Asciano and Devine, or Royce Ring, I dont think you lose anything caue Soriano and Yates are burnt and could use the rest!

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    Stu Says:

    And the Wickman/San Francisco meltdown game.

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    Downtown ATL Says:

    80+ posts in 10 minutes. Guess it beats actually biting fingernails to the bone.

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    Stu Says:

    Alex R,

    I call on you to name your baby Willie Harris R.

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    Nasa from france Says:

    For those who didn’t see it

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    Stephen Says:

    Yates is much more burned out than Soriano–but I agree they both need rest.

    What is the story with Wickman?

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    RobBroad4th Says:

    This is poetic justice after last night’s ninth inning display of ineptitude.

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    Jimbo B. Says:


    arguably more deflating than being down a run and failing to score with the bases loaded in the 9th inning.

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    HawkeyeFan Says:

    #315 — Amen to that, brother. I was just thinking that myself — haven’t actually seen a catch like that since Otis Nixon. Talk about a momentum-swinger…and how clutch does that suicide squeeze by Hudson look now?

    Wow, I say just pack the team up and get down to Philly ASAP, because the Bravos just stole one.

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    RobBroad4th Says:

    Very nice, Nasa.

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    Stu Says:

    Actually, it was a perfectly parallel display of 9th-inning ineptitude right up to the point where WILLIE HARRIS FREAKING TOOK OVER.

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    Tom Says:

    Will we EVER, and I mean EVER, win a game with ease unless we are 10 runs up?

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    Tony Says:

    LOL…so Willie stole one? I’ll be damn. Wickman can’t pitch on the road or something. Wouldn’t be a bad idea. Dotel is resting for Philly?


    Well he does live in NY, so I’m pretty sure there is someone who spotted him at a nightspot…lol

    Call up Devine, Asciano(sp) Yates and Soriano are done. Or at least DL them. No way either Yates or Soriano get Rollins and Howard out. No way.

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    Hate King Says:

    Get Ascanio and Ring up here right now. Delenda est Yates. Willie Harris, that’s that hot junk.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    Tom — unfortunately, no.

    Though I didn’t see it on TV, the photo of that catch actually reminds me of the famous Endy Chavez catch. I’m sure that Mets fans are thinking the same thing in their embittered black hearts.

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    Dan Says:

    “13-5 and that is including the Wickman/Florida meltdown game.”

    And the Wickman/Minnesota game against Santana. And the Wickman/San Francisco game.

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    Jorgbacca Says:

    Great picture of willie on yahoo sports making the catch:;_ylt=Au9vIO6NfnUCQQ6oN5JcvsCFCLcF?slug=a943f04dca7144ceab2c7db0381cc61e.braves_mets_baseball_nys101&prov=ap

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    Dan Says:

    I’m still thinking Moylan should have had the ninth. He threw four frickin’ pitches, for God’s sake Bobby.

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    Jimbo B. Says:

    willie ‘mays’ harris may deserve a shot at centerfield at some point afterall.

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    avery Says:

    that Yahoo picture is a different catch willie made – not the delgado one

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    Alex R. Says:

    Thank goodness for this win so we can take our licking tomorrow during the Hamels/Cormier (likely) fiasco.


    Done. My baby (much to my wife’s chagrin) will be called “Willie Harris R”. :-)

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    Landogarner Says:

    I was at the Wickman – Santana game, most crushing braves defeat I have ever had the pleasure of attending.

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    Stephen Says:

    Dan–I agree, but at least Moylan will be better rested for the Phillies.

    I would also like to see Devine/Ascanio and Ring

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    Dan Says:

    James against Hamels, Cormier against Eaton. I’d like the Braves to reverse it so it’s Cormier against Hamels and James against Eaton. That way you have a chance at a split instead of two losses. Hamels is to good and Cormier sucks so badly.

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    Tony Says:

    The thing with Yates and Soriano…how can we as fast see they are burned out, but Bobby can’t see it. You don’t go from being lights out to Mark Redman like they have w/o being tired. We need to rest them immediately so they can at least relieve Moylan…

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    Tony Says:

    we as fans

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    doubledawg Says:

    wrong hit Jorgbacca

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    Andy Says:

    The bullpen is in trouble, but on the plus side, we just took 2 of 3 from the Mets at Shea.

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    Alex R. Says:

    I agree w/ Dan. I say get Cormier’s inevitable disaster out of the way against Hamels. Then, James can beat Eaton and Buddy can win on Sunday night. If we win 2 of 3, we’ll all take it.

    At what point do we shut the entire bullpen down and just use Moylan?

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    njbravesfan Says:

    o my god, a mark redman mention! remember that disaster. Just think, if we started the year with buddy carlye instead of mark redman, what do you think the difference in wins would be?!

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    Landogarner Says:

    Bright side? We should have swept. That loss from last night still bothers me.

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    Dan Says:

    I love reading Mets’ fans comments when the Braves win. He’s a page of comments that features them all giddy about the comeback and Wright’s homerun, and the meltdown when Harris robbed Delgado.

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    Cliff Says:


    Actually, Willie is William Charles Harris. That gives you some good options to work with.

    Also, most of you are too young, but in about 1986 Bob Kostas (yeah, Barry Bonds’ favorite midget) was doing the studio show on the “NBC” MLB game of the week. Early in the season, Kirby Puckett told Kostas that Kirby was going to hit 20 home runs (20 was the current 30).

    Costas said “No way. If he does, I’ll name my son (due in 6 months or so) “Kirby Puckett Kostas”. When Kirby passed 20, viewers and Kirby gave Kostas hell, and he came on and said his wife wouldn’t let him do it.

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    njbravesfan Says:

    4 losses for redman 11 losses for the bullpen. A couple key losses in Washington and the cinnicinati series. Those make a huge difference right now

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    Alex R. Says:

    I really think it’s high time to DFA Yates.

    Look we have some guys in Richmond like Ascancio and Ring who deserve a chance. This is stretch time and we need to clean out as much of the crud as possible.

    I also think a DL visit for Soriano and Andruw is badly needed.

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    Cliff Says:

    Oh, and complements to all on the postings.

    The little back and forth on grammar and spelling yesterday or the day before was funny.

    This site has by far the best grammar and spelling of any site on sports that I visit. No “internet codes”. No atrocious spellings. All in all, you are to be coplemented.

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    Landogarner Says:

    “Martinez gave up five runs and six hits in the Class A St. Lucie Mets’ game against the Lakeland Flying Tigers on Wednesday, as he attempts to return to the New York rotation after offseason shoulder surgery.”


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    Alex R. Says:


    “Willie Charles Harris R”.


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    Cliff Says:

    or complemented (a typing, not spelling error)

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    Alex R. Says:


    Hopefully, the Mets will be starting Pedro against us when they come to Atlanta soon.

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    Stu Says:

    “Willie Chaz” has a nice ring to it.

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    Justin Parker Says:


    there was a Florida game that Wickman blew for Huddy.

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    Landogarner Says:

    Alex, no kidding. I hope they try to rush him back a.s.a.p.

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    Alex R. Says:

    I am also considering “Peter Moylan R”.

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    Hate King Says:

    Ascanio and Ring should be catching a flight to philly, yates needs to go, and soriano needs the DL.

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    Tony Says:


    That was too funny. I like “where is fatty wickman” and “Be for villaREAL”. Mets fan is so use to being the doormat for the Yankees and the Braves they are actually a sad group.

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    Tony Says:

    CJames vs. Hamels tomorrow….

    James has to step it up. I believe the Braves can handle Hamels.

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    Remy Says:

    James has to keep the ball from flying out of that small ballpark.

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    Alex R. Says:

    If we get 5 good innings out of James, I will be thrilled.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    I think my favorite part of reading that Mets thread was a conversation about whether or not David Wright’s 3-run homer was to blame for killing their rally.

    As the Sports Guy might say, yup… these are the Mets fans.

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    Hate King Says:

    5 innings from James and then who do you suggest we bring in?

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    Stephen Says:

    The Mets announcers were pretty unimpressed with their team’s inability to take 2 out of 3.

    Cormier worries me, but if we can figure out a way to handle Chase Utley, then we might just build some momentum.

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    Tony Says:

    Interesting little write-up about “Mr. Clutch” Andruw Jones:

    “When Jeff Francoeur grounded into a forceout at the plate with the bases loaded and nobody out in the ninth inning of Wednesday night’s 4-3 loss, there was reason to be surprised. But when Mets closer Billy Wagner escaped the jam unscathed by inducing an Andruw Jones double-play groundout, there wasn’t much reason for surprise.

    From the beginning of the 2000 season through the end of 2003, Jones batted .273 with runners in scoring position. Since the beginning of the 2004 season, he’s hit just .234. This year, he’s hitting just .224 — a mark at least better than his overall .215 batting average.

    During his young career, which began midway through the 2005 season, Francoeur has hit .334 with runners in scoring position. This year, he’s hit a team-best .351 in that situation.”

    I cannot wait to see who offers him some money in the offseason. However we are headed to that little league park in Philly, AJ hits Philly pretty well…MAYBE he’s about to carry the club. Sigh……

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    I’m stuck in meetings but hopefully will get the recap up in about an hour.

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    Alex R. Says:

    We’ll handle Utley just fine…he’s on the DL with a broken hand. Hell, even Cormier could get him out in that situation.

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    Justin Parker Says:


    I wouldn’t be so sure of that

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    Stu Says:

    I’d say the best way to handle Utley is to watch him very carefully as he sits on the bench. He’s still on the DL. :)

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    Tony Says:


    The Mets next five opponents:

    At home against the Marlins. At Pittsburgh, at Wash, and then the no hitting Padres and Dodgers come to Shea. Mercy.

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    Alex R. Says:

    Yet, for some reason, the Phillies are still piling up a ton of runs. I am very worried about this series.

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    Smitty Says:

    I love the Mets fans on the Mets board. that was an all time classic!

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    Alex R. Says:

    The Phillies also get the Nats and Pirates next week. We get Arizona. That’s not right.

    At least we get the Giants, post Bonds mania. If we don’t sweep the Giants (and both Smoltz and Hudson are pitching against them), then we shouldn’t even bother trying the rest of the year.

    But back to the Nats, not only have they been playing really well, but Mac is right…they are a feisty bunch and his prediction of the Nats going 3-3 against the Phillies and Mets next weekend is pretty good.

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    Stephen Says:

    My mistake: I am glad that we don’t have to worry about Utley for now…my fear of Utley has been so well developed that I forgot that he was injured recently. Still, I think I did hear that he will be back by the end of the season.

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    Tony Says:

    Yea I was thinking about the Nats too as my diehard Nats fan neighbor has the Nats/Giants game blasting on his radio in his office.

    They are fiesty.

    The Marlins have to show some of pride. Don’t they?

    Damn Ryan Howard has 32HR and 93RBI

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    Alex R. Says:

    Believe me, the way 75% of our bullpen is pitching, they will probably treat Tad Iguchi LIKE he’s Utley.

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    Dan Says:

    L. Ron Mahay.

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    Remy Says:

    Pat Burrell’s the one swinging a hot bat right now. The big lug finally woke up.

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    Remy Says:

    Nothing against Howard, mind you.

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    ububba Says:

    I walk into the deli. The clerk sees me & says, “That was a lucky catch at the end.”

    Me: “Hard to get lucky 8 times, innit?”

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    Alex R. Says:

    “A Braves fan walks into a New York Deli…” sounds like the start to a GREAT joke.

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    Stu Says:

    Or a miserable tragedy.

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    Alex R. Says:

    true. I was trying for glass half full.

    But as much as I dislike the Mets, I do love New York Deli – yum.

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    Dan Says:

    Chipper Jones: Alex Rodriguez will have to answer steroid questions, too;_ylt=AmzFTUbHqf9xzYTLbo8Pu94R0bYF?slug=ap-cjones-a-rod&prov=ap&type=lgns

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    Stu Says:

    I’ve never been in NY, but I do love deli meat and all the “NY-style” delis to which I’ve ever been. I could probably eat sandwiches for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

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    Frank Says:

    So I leave after the Chipper and Tex HRs to take my kid for a checkup and the pen falls apart again. It almost makes me glad we had a long wait to see the doc–I probably would have gone postal when Yates gave up the HR to Wright.

    At least we got out with 2 of 3 (though it should have been 3 of 3)–now it’s on to watch Chuckie (an ok pitcher but a fly ball guy) and Cormier (not an ok pitcher) start in Philly’s bandbox. Stock up on the Maalox now.

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    Alex R. Says:


    5th Avenue Deli is great, Carnegie is probably the most famous and usually you see someone famous eating there. The warm corn beef or pastrami slices with hot, spicy mustard…it all melts in your mouth.

    Nut I don’t even know if I can put NY Deli ahead of NY style pizza.

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    Tony Says:

    Does Cormier have to pitch with his straight 89 to 90 mph fast ball? Aren’t we asking for a disaster?

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    Alex R. Says:


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    ermoore Says:

    Anybody notice that Kyle Davies went 6.2 with 3 hits and no runs today against the Twins? Hope that hasn’t already been mentioned. I hope Kyle does well in KC.

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