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24 Jun

Radiohead week continues: Brewers at Braves, June 24

Here’s a question, though I don’t know if it’s worth a poll: What sucks more, Peachtree TV or Francoeur?

252 Responses to “Radiohead week continues: Brewers at Braves, June 24”

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    CharlesP Says:


  2. 2
    Smitty Says:


    I agree that Francoeur probably will get better and break out of this.

    However, everytime he comes to bat he practically gets a standing ovation. I have heard very little booing of him durring the game.

    True, some people on this board get carried away, but I am sure Jeffy Boy doesn’t read this and it has nothing to do with his performance

  3. 3
    Smitty Says:

    Peachtree TV is okay wieh Skip is on

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    Parish Says:

    I am sure the negative reaction on this board is partially driven by the unqualified praise Frenchy gets from the common fan base.

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    Dan Says:

    Depends completely on whether or not Chip Caray is involved.

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    Stu Says:

    I gotta say, the tagline still cracks me up every time I see it. It makes no sense and is totally unrelated to the Braves, and yet it’s perfect.

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    csg Says:

    I would rather watch Frenchy struggle on TV, than to read about it on Gamecast. Therefore, I put Peachtree ahead of everything…

    Prediction – with all the bashing today, Frenchy gets two hits tonight an RBI also

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Okay, if anyone still wants to talk about Scarface Jimmy Johns, I’ve set up a Thomason Tracts post.

    It’s always fun when a member of the team turns out to be a cocaine dealer « Thomason Tracts

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    Parish Says:

    On another subject, Baseball Think Factory has a listing of players’ total values, offense plus defense, for the 2007 season.

    Even though it counts injury time against the player, Chipper ranks third among all players in the NL, behind Utley and barely behind David Wright.

    Further, Wright’s defense, measured in defensive runs saved, ranked 6th or 7th last year among regular third basemen in the NL. Chipper was 4th and Pedro Feliz was way ahead of everybody.

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    Parish Says:

    All that to say – “Chipper, get well soon.”

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    ububba Says:

    Love the Radiohead film festival. “High & Dry,” well-done, Stu.

    And to all the UGA people out there—HBTD?

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    Parish Says:

    Despite making an effort to change the subject, I found this in a chat from Baseball Prospectus on Friday.

    Jeff Francouer (Atlanta): Wasn’t I supposed to be really good this year?

    Joe Sheehan: I think I might have written something like that. He’s stagnated so far–power’s about the same, and he’s making more contact. But the walks have gone backwards again, and he’s not hitting for average. It’s strange…I’m not ready to write this off, though. The raw talent is there and he’s shown capacity for development.

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    Boomer Says:

    High and Dry is a lovely song. Puts me in a very peaceful mood.

    Go Braves.

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    Nick Says:

    Undoubtedly Francoeur, because we have to put up with him more than we do Peachtree TV.

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    Nick Says:

    Although I admittedly live in Atlanta, so I don’t ever have problems with access to the game because of Peachtree TV. If that were the case, I’d probably hate it more.

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    bamachum Says:

    I maintain that thanks to our above-average production from our C, 1B, 2B, 3B, and SS relative to their respective position…that Jeff’s struggles could easily be hidden if Bobby would simply bat him 7th or 8th instead of 5th or 6th. The same think happened with Andruw last season. Or at least platoon him vs. RHP or given him days off on a more routine basis.

    I disagree that it time to totally give up on him, he still is only 24, although McCann’s development over the past 5 seasons makes him look even worse. Perhaps, getting hit in the face in Mrytle Beach really messed him up that badly. (g)

    Truly, what we need it a leadoff hitter, in CF, perhaps that can get on base at least .360 of the time (Blanco—assuming his numbers stayed where they are) and we’d have lineup that would look like:


    The “problem” would be that our biggest weaknesses offensively would be at the traditionally offensive positions, LF/RF.

    I realize this has been discussed ad nausem here, but its as “simple” as that. Like Mac has pointed on numerous occasions, this is the easiest position to fix.

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    CharlesP Says:

    Wow Parish… that’s an impressive listing (note that as “bad” as Frenchy was with a -3.3 he was still MILES ahead of Thorman at -21 something or Andruw at something in the negative teens.)

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    Marc Schneider Says:

    It’s really interesting how we can’t even agree on whether Frenchy was good or bad in ’07. Obviously, it depends on your point of reference and what weight you put on “counting” stats as opposed to “rate” stats. From a sabermetric point of view, Francouer is a lousy ballplayer.

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    CharlesP Says:

    BTW: is the listing on Baseball Think Factory… which has Frenchy being on the bad side of mediocre in 07 “all things considered”…

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    Hate King Says:

    I forget who asked last thread, but Kimbrel signed for $391,000.

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    CharlesP Says:

    Oh… and he’s below Willy Harris and Salty on that list, even if he’s above Andruw and Thor

  22. 22
    hankonly Says:

    Now, now …

    The Mighty Thor doth stir.

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    Dan Says:

    If you go by counting stats, Juan Pierre would be a great player. He gets 200 hits if you play him every day and usually is the top or right at the top in stolen bases and sacrifice hits.

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    bamachum Says:

    #20…thanks, I googled it right after I asked the question.

    Not beating a dead horse, but due to his popularity, Jeff has some value to this organization, which he wouldn’t to any other as a RF. (evidence by the stats)

    Again, an upgrade in LF (or CF) coupled with moving down in the order (to 7th or 8th) and a more regular “off-day” and we can hide his weaknesses easier.

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    Adam M Says:

    I’m on the side that his 2007 was lousy. But I guess we could be giving $100 million to Carlos Lee, who is apparently horrific in the field. Wow.

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    MGL Says:

    Wiffing Coach available –

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    Dan Says:

    Mark Teixeira looking for 8YRS/160M according to Rosenthal.

    Who here would give him that?

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    Bethany Says:

    I certainly would not.

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    Stu Says:

    *Raises hand*

    *(Expects to be in the small minority)*

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    Stu Says:

    Also from that piece, Dan:

    The Braves, who inquired about A’s right-hander Joe Blanton earlier this season, no longer are in the market for a starting pitcher. Club officials are encouraged by the progress of the team’s young starters and anticipate a potential surplus if lefties Tom Glavine and — ahem — Mike Hampton return from injuries.

    The bigger need for the Braves, at least at the moment, is a hitter — preferably a right-handed hitting left fielder. Either the Pirates’ Jason Bay or Xavier Nady would fit, but the Pirates are only four games under .500 and not yet ready to concede their season.

    Interesting. I sure would like both a bat and a starter.

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    jea Says:

    I’d give him that, too, depending on who else was out there.

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    ububba Says:

    After years of cheap never-weres like Rico Brogna & cheap never-will-bes like Scott Thormans, I’d love to keep Tex.

    But, like winning the lottery, it’s not something I much think about.

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    Ben Says:

    MGL, speaking of “The Onion,” did you see this about Chipper?

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    Coop Says:

    Tex plays almost every day. He’s at least close to gold glove quality defensively. He hasn’t sustained the incredible second half he had last year, but who has?

    I’d give him 8/$144, maybe $160, but if and only if the Braves have a$110 million-plus payroll next year and going forward.

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    csg Says:

    Fuentes and Nady would go a long way to helping us field a great team right now.

    seriously though, who do we go after this offseason to replace Smoltz and Tex. I’m guessing Schafer would be ready. I wouldnt be against offering Kotsay something cheap and hopeing for the best next season either.

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    Coop Says:

    Jeez, I’d love to get Nady.

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    ububba Says:

    Written by a Met fan, no doubt.

    I love The Onion, but there’s nothing more tired than Larry jokes.

    Y’know what Larry jokes are? Not funny.

  38. 38
    MGL Says:


    Yes, that’s what got me started

  39. 39
    csg Says:

    #34 – I disagree. With our payroll restraints I dont give him that deal. I take the draft picks instead. With an $80-85 million dollar payroll, it’ll be real hard investing $20 per season into any player

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    Stu Says:

    Xavier Nady: The last guy (I believe) to skip the minor leagues completely and play in the major leagues. (He later spent some time in the minors.)

    Also the guy most responsible, other than Bobby, for the Joey Devine-ing of Joey Devine.

    It’s a great question. We have so much money to spend. I’m tempted to believe we’ll fill holes via trades, like we’ve done recently, but then again, we haven’t had this much FA money lately, either. No idea, honestly.

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    csg Says:

    #34 – sorry misread your post there. I agree with a larger payroll we should try to keep him.

  42. 42
    csg Says:

    Liberty Media will probably decide to reduce our payroll by $20 mil so we wont be able to sign anyone this offseason

  43. 43
    Coop Says:

    No problem, csg. I doubt we’ll have as much as I hoped for anyway; but with the bucks coming off the payroll this year, it looks like the Braves can be a player in the off-season meat market.

  44. 44
    Stu Says:

    Pretty interesting read:

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    Bob Says:

    PeachtreeTv with Chip sucks.
    Get ready for a scan around the league that has nothing to do with the game, as Chip is Mr Mlb on Tbs. How are the Twins Chip?
    Also the Ozzy Ozbourne story is about every 3 games so tonight might be it. I don’t know how Joe stands it I would jump out the booth.
    I agree PeachtreeTv with Skip is great.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    Actually, I’m slightly relieved to hear that Tex wants 8 yr/$160 million. The way Boras negotiations work, he asks for something so impossibly high he’ll never get it — like asking for $500 million and a piece of Yankees ownership for A-Rod — and then grudgingly allows his client to slide back down to a merely outrageously exorbitant.

    I would have expected him to start a lot higher than 8 years, $20 million, because that means he basically doesn’t think he can get that price.

    Personally, I’d offer Tex 5 years, $100 mill. I’d be very hard pressed to go higher.

  47. 47
    Another Alex R. Says:

    * to a merely outrageously exorbitant price.

  48. 48
    Robert Says:

    Pretty interesting read:

    Title IX, Title IX, Title IX. That’s the whole reason. And personally I think the new rule about evening out the money to all the players will drive the percentages lower.

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    Stu Says:

    And personally I think the new rule about evening out the money to all the players will drive the percentages lower.

    I agree. It’s a terrible, poorly-conceived rule, IMO.

  50. 50
    Adam M Says:

    @44 Thanks.

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    Robert Says:

    And yes I do hate Title IX partially because it makes it nearly* impossible for a private school like USC to field a top flight baseball team. But there are plenty of other reasons as well.

    * note I said nearly. I am aware Stanford did well this year.

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    oldtimer? Says:

    I too sign Tex.
    No Hampton, Smoltz and Glavine next year, Tex is 28 and a heck of an overall player.
    Trade him or sign him, dont lose him to FA though.

  53. 53
    Dan Says:

    I really hope the Braves can get one of Teixeira, Sabathia or Sheets this offseason. They have a lot of money coming off the books.

  54. 54
    Adam M Says:

    I think Title IX counts as ‘political,’ but I’d be happy to engage in this if it doesn’t.

  55. 55
    Robert Says:

    I think Title IX counts as ‘political,’

    It shouldn’t really, but you are right that it probably wouldn’t end well.

    Fair enough.

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    Adam M Says:

    Sabathia may cost more than Teixeira.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    I don’t think Sheets is worth it. He’ll get stupid money from someone and he is always, always, always injured. Sabathia’s arm is a ticking time bomb, and because of his girth so are his knees and back. Tex, again, I’d sign, but only if the price is right.

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    jea Says:

    I’m very curious about what Sheets gets, considering his health issues and his talent. He will probably get a ton of money, but it should be interesting.

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    Spike (Now Laid Off And Loving It) Says:

    Tex already turned down 5/140 from Texas didn’t he?

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    Parish Says:

    Of those 3, Sheets is the one I would pay.

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    Parish Says:

    Spike – I am pretty sure it was 7/140.

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    Parish Says:

    I am very concerned about the reports I am hearing on Chipper’s health. Makes it sound like he should already have been DL’ed.

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    Jason Says:

    I’d go, say, 6/110 for Tex. I’m a tiny bit concerned about him given what we’ve seen from Travis Hafner over the past couple years — but I’m not naive enough to suggest that Scott Boras would accept fewer than six years or fewer than nine figures.

    Also, I don’t mind Peachtree TV unless Chip is prominently involved; down in Augusta, I’ve yet to have a blackout or any other trouble watching.

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    Smitty Says:

    7/140. He should have taken that.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    He should have taken that, yes, but Boras is a megalomaniacal idiot, and he encourages that in his clients.

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    Smitty Says:

    Hmm, it seems that I may not be able to watch the game. The screen is black.


    I blame your poll. Peachtree TV nixed the game!

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    Parish Says:

    AAR, that is how I think Boras hurts his clients, though it works more often than not.

    But, the player gambles an extra 10 million or so over multiple years against losing most of the potential contract or even all of it, in the event of an injury or a significant drop in production. That works over large numbers, but for the one guy who loses, the gamble won’t be worth it.

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    Smitty Says:

    Game on, youre off the hook Mac

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    Dan Says:


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    Remy Says:


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    Bethany Says:

    How many more grounders can Frenchy bobble?

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    Smitty Says:

    He did make a nice throw on the Fielder ball

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    Mr. Swings@Everything Says:

    Wowee Zowee! That is some Braves baseball guys.

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    oldtimer? Says:

    Extra Innings currently not available for me. WTF? I hate Cablevision.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Joe was about to say that Hart can really run for a white guy, wasn’t he?

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    oldtimer? Says:

    2 quick E’s by the Braves, maybe I will go paint my fence instead of paying attention to this.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Oh, and Francoeur sucks. The man can’t field ground balls!

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    I’ve seen Little League teams that fielded more competently.

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    braves14 Says:

    This is pathetic defense. There are pony league teams that play better defensive innings than this.

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    Mr. Swings@Everything Says:

    Is the prevalence of the four base error the best thing about Little League baseball?

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    It is of course extremely bad training for a young pitcher to realize that he can’t count on any out he doesn’t get via strikeout.

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    Dan Says:

    In all fairness to Francoeur, the inning would have ended with the score still 0-0 if not for that Escobar error.

    Three errors in the first inning.

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    ububba Says:

    Only 2 runs scored, thank goodness. I has half-expecting a 3-run bomb at the end there.

    And, surprisingly, only 17 pitches thrown. Bad, but could’ve been way worse.

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    oldtimer? Says:

    3 first inning errors!!

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Any time Blanco hits a ball to that quarter of the infield, Pendleton should fine him.

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    c. shorter Says:

    is this a major league defense?

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    oldtimer? Says:

    This is frightening.

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    jea Says:

    No. This is amazing.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    I don’t think Jones could have made the play… but this is embarrassing. I hate this team.

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    ububba Says:

    The Bad News Braves.

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    Remy Says:


    P = Prado

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    Mr. Swings@Everything Says:

    Seems like a good night to practice putting.

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    Dan Says:

    The cure for Dave Bush’s streak of no road wins since August 2007: the Atlanta Braves!

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    Remy Says:

    I think some of the Braves need to start sleeping with their gloves under their pillows.

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    ububba Says:

    C’mon, boys—let’s make a game of it. After all, Ben Sheets can’t pitch tonight.

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    Remy Says:

    The third error has been charged to Francouer instead of Escobar.

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    ryan c Says:

    honesty, francoeur just thought he walked on a ball right down the middle.

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    ububba Says:

    Skip: “And Jeff’s terrible problems continue. Tonight it’s with the glove and the bat.”

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    Brick Tamland Says:

    95 … the guys are doing their best to make all Milwaukee’s pitchers look like Sheets. This is pathetic.

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    Parish Says:

    Guess the contact lens isn’t working.

    Thanks for the tip anyway, Diaz.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Do something about Francoeur. I don’t care what. Bench him, demote him, trade him, release him, hang him. But get him the hell off the field.

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    Smitty Says:

    Poor Charlie Morton

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    Smitty Says:

    Where the fuck was he throwing that ball?

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    ricflair Says:

    AIR MAIL!!!

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    csg Says:

    what happened?

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    Brick Tamland Says:

    To his dad in the stands?

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    Dan Says:

    Do something about Francoeur. I don’t care what. Bench him, demote him, trade him, release him, hang him. But get him the hell off the field.

    Francoeur seems concerned:

    (Yes, shameless)

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    Remy Says:

    Kendall tagged, and Francouer threw the ball over McCann’s head. Fortunately, Morton, who’s playing with a 100 degree fever, backed the play up.

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    Dan Says:

    Isn’t Brick Tamland the weather man from anchor man?

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    ricflair Says:

    My Fresno State Bulldogs are in early trouble.
    Georgia looks hungry.

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    Brick Tamland Says:

    109 — yes.

    “I’m Brick Tamland. People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks. Years later, a doctor will tell me that I have an I.Q. of 48 and am what some people call mentally retarded. “

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Blanco still shouldn’t be pulling grounders.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Still brighter than Francoeur.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    I’m not sure I believe that Jeff Francoeur deserves a spot on the 25-man roster. If he commits any more errors, I’m not sure I’ll believe he deserves a spot on the 40-man.

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    Brick Tamland Says:

    Speaking of mentally retarded …

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    Coop Says:

    Lillibridge to short?

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    ububba Says:

    Can we start this game over?

    Go Dawgs

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    oldtimer? Says:

    Strange Stat, 1992 Brewers had 92 wins, 82 homeruns and 256 Stolen Bases.

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    Smitty Says:

    Wow, did you see how Bobby just turned around like, “screw you” to Escobar. If that were Chipper, Bobby would choke slam people. I think he is tired of this team’s bull shit

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    csg Says:

    so what did Yunel do?

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    Brick Tamland Says:

    Lillibridge at short, Francoeur still in the lineup, Chipper Jones hurt and out of action. Why don’t we just put Corky in and get this overwith.

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    Coop Says:

    Amen. (I assume Fresno State’s players are Dogs, not Dawgs.)

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    NickC Says:

    I’d pull McCann out of the game now.

    The way things are going he’ll get injured at some point.

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    Remy Says:

    Skip says Gotay’s at third and Infante at short. Did he get it wrong? Is Lillibridge in the game?

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    csg Says:

    why did Yunel get yanked?

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    Smitty Says:

    We should trade Hudson and Tex before the end of the night

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    So Yunel went and got himself ejected. Okay.

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    Parish Says:

    Lillibridge is going to do something great to win this game for the Braves and rebuild his value in “one shining moment.”

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    braves14 Says:

    Yunel got ejected.

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    oldtimer? Says:

    ha hahaa!
    i think i am going crazy

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    Mr. Swings@Everything Says:

    Just stopping in to register my disgust. Carry on.

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    jea Says:

    Infante’s at short. He just made an error.

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    Coop Says:

    csg, he bounced his helmet while arguing with the ump after his bonehead getting doubled off first.

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    Dan Says:

    I honestly was about to post: “WTF is Bobby thinking putting Infante at shortstop instead of Brent Lillibridge, who plays excellent SS defense…especially with tonight’s defense behind the young Charlie Morton”.

    Before I could do it, Infante makes an error.

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    Coop Says:

    De-fense! De-fense! sucks.

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    csg Says:

    Coop, thanks. Was Yunel ejected for throwing the helmet or did Bobby get him out of there first

  137. 137
    Remy Says:

    Yunel slammed his helmet in protest for being called out on a double play at first (line drive caught by Fielder).

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    Smitty Says:

    Yunel is a morron. He stupidly got picked off on a liner to Fileder. Then he threw a tempertantrum and got tossed. He was clearly out and his stupid base running has once again hurt the team

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    Coop Says:

    Good bobblehead line, Skip.

  140. 140
    Brian J. Says:

    I’m watching Wipeout on ABC, watching contestants stumble around and fall on their faces. From what I gather, the Braves look like they’re playing it too.

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    Smitty Says:


    Nope, Bobby was on his way to save Yuni, but once he was tossed, Bobby stoped and went back to the dugout with a pissed off look on his face

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    csg Says:

    thanks Smitty, I’m glad I cant watch, but I’m getting more pissed that I cant follow anything on gamecast. Im going to the gym…

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    Coop Says:

    Lillibridge is the Stockman of backup infielders.

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    Jeremy Says:

    Francoeur is awesome.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    McCann really should leave the game. I’m not worried about him getting hurt, I’m worried he’ll catch something from the rest of these clowns.

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    ububba Says:

    OK, this Braves game seems like some kind of nadir for all involved.

    Although Skip is squeezing out some decent one-liners, I’m afraid my attention is pointed more toward Nebraska.

    Go-o-o-o Dawgs!

    Sic ’em!

  147. 147
    Coop Says:

    This reminds me of when I was a Brooklyn Bums fan: Wait til next year!

  148. 148
    Coop Says:

    5-0 ubetcha, ububba.

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    Johnny W. Says:

    this team blows

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    Coop, we agree that they’re bums.

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    jea Says:

    Celebrity Family Feud, hosted by Al Roker, is also on right now. I’m not sure if that’s a better choice than the game or worse. Probably a draw.

  152. 152
    Coop Says:

    That ain’t Furillo in right or Duke in center, though.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    And that ain’t Gil Hodges at first base.

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    Coop Says:

    Amen, AAR.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Well, the Braves seem to be doing a fine Daffiness Boys imitation.

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    Jeremy Says:

    I think this Morton kid has a future.

  157. 157
    Coop Says:

    The college boys play hard, fundamentally sound baseball.

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    barrycuda Says:

    i’m 280 miles from turner field, but looking out the window at the river, i swear the suckage from the Atl is causing an extra hour of high tide. and it seems the trees are starting to lean to the north!!!

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    Jeremy Says:

    Why the hell is Blanco swinging at the first pitch? Does he actually think he can hit?

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    braves14 Says:

    Looks like Morton pitched pretty well tonight. Too bad he didn’t get any help whatsoever from the rest of the team.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    So Dave Bush has started 3 games against us. Here are his lines:

    May 30, 2007, 7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 6 K
    May 27, 2008, 7 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 3 K
    June 24, 2008 (so far), 5 IP, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K
    An overall ERA of 1.42.

    Here’s his line against every other opponent ever: 695 IP, 720 H, 360 ER, 158 BB, 470 K, 4.66 ERA.

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    HawkeyeFan Says:

    Is there any way we could trade Diaz and Frenchy for Nady and Bay, straight up? I mean, they already took Huckleberry Hound off our hands……

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    barrycuda Says:

    Go Dawgs……….i might as well root for the Southern boys. i couldnt stand it if a sub.500 team won the damn thing. and besides, the California boys are the wrong FSU.

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    Joshua Says:

    AAR, we make every pitcher look like Warren Spahn these days. Our lineup sucks w/o our regulars. Hell, it even sucks with some (Frenchy). But it wouldn’t be so noticeable if we had Chipper, Kotsay and Diaz in there.

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    Coop Says:

    Or Yunel.

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    barrycuda Says:

    or maybe the Brewers just have a better team?

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    Coop Says:

    Here comes the other FSU, barrycuda. Hunker down, Dawgs.

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    Jeremy Says:

    Acosta is dreadful.

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    Jeremy Says:

    Very Francoeuresque by the Hebrew Hammer.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    Not all DPs are Frenchyesque. I’d say Braun’s are more Jim Riceesque — he amasses terrific counting stats and puts up gaudy numbers despite a terrible BB/K ratio and poor defense.

    Hey, way to earn that paycheck, Tex!

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    Rufino Linares Says:

    Well, at least the Mariners are whoopin’ some Met ass. That takes some of the sting out of this effort by the Braves. For anyone who is watching on TV, how did Morton look?

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    Chief Nocahoma Says:

    Is is official that this team indeed sucks?

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    Jeremy Says:

    Side question
    Who sucks at their job more:

    Jeff Francoeur
    Chip Caray

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    Chief Nocahoma Says:

    Chip Caray easy. Francouer is a least a AA baseball player, Chip is the equivalent of a 2A Alabama high school AM once a week home game announcer.

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    Coop Says:


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    Jeremy Says:


    Well, Braun rolled over the top of a pitch way off the plate outside. That’s vintage Francoeur.

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    Remy Says:

    Francouer has half of the Braves’ hits tonight.

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    csg Says:

    #7 – Im close

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    billy-jay Says:

    Half of their errors, too, no?

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    Jeremy Says:

    That’s now 10 K, 1 BB in 41 PA for BJones.

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    Jeremy Says:

    STFU, Joe.

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    Rufino Linares Says:

    Fresno State just did something- I can’t remember the term for it, it isn’t something you see very often watching the Braves play… I think it is sometimes termed a “comeback,” but really I’ve forgotten…

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    If anyone still cares, my man Ibanez is leading the way as the Mariners are beating the Mets 10-0.

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    Johnny W. Says:

    comeback?? isn’t that an old old wooden ship used in the civil war?

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Beckham looks about twelve.

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    Rufino Linares Says:

    Chipper’s OK to hit? Is this a good idea? I thought he was out for the series.

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    Jeremy Says:

    More first pitch swinging from Blanco.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Chipper can hit, he just can’t run.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    Chipper! Up to .395… apparently pinch hitting is just the thing for him to break out of a slump.

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    barrycuda Says:

    i’ve seen some crazy stuff in this years CWS………at one point in the Florida State-Miami game, the Seminoles, batting over .350 as a team this season, had 16 hits and two (2 !!!) runs…………that would be hard to do with 6 Frenchys in the lineup.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    What’s that thing Mac always says? Oh, yeah. I hate this team.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    I hate the lineup, anyway. The starting pitching has been awfully good, even during the annual June Collapse. (“June Swoon” is overplayed.)

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    Coop Says:

    I don’t like anybody very much.

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    Coop Says:

    The heart of the order … ha! ha! ha!

    Good one, Skip.

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    Mr. Swings@Everything Says:

    Gotta love those Brandon Jones stats. Sending him back to Richmond taught him some of that aggressiveness we prefer in our hitters.

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    Rufino Linares Says:

    It’s starting to look like the Braves really don’t like Radiohead.

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    Smitty Says:

    I think Poor Charlie pitched very well again, but the Bad News Bears cost him with their ability to kick balls.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Look, the Braves evidently like Toby Keithian country music. I won’t post that crap.

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    Smitty Says:

    Frenchy is going to win the game for us.

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    Coop Says:

    Poor Charlie is a great name for Morton, Smitty.

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    Mike Says:

    Are we ever going back to Phil Collins?

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    Douglass Says:


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    Dan Says:


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    Coop Says:


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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Great! Another one-run loss!

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    Smitty Says:


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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Life support, maybe.

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    Smitty Says:

    McCann has got him read

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Jurrjens to pinch-run?

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    Dan Says:

    Come on Francoeur. Be a hero.

    Or at least, no double plays….

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Yup. Hope his ankle is sound.

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    Coop Says:

    McCann can! Can Infante?

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    Dan Says:

    Or Infante. I forgot they got flipped around.

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    Smitty Says:

    Wow, Bobby is going to bunt

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    This shit again. You’re going to bunt to set up the Out Machine?

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    Smitty Says:

    I’d let him swing here

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    Dan Says:

    Wow, Bobby is going to bunt

    I don’t blame him. No double plays.

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    Coop Says:

    “Bunt, Braves, bunt” has a familiar ring, eh Mac?

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    Smitty Says:

    Frenchy is going to win it

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    Jeremy Says:

    “Now it’s up to Francoeur and Brandon Jones”

    I don’t like our chances, Joe.

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    Coop Says:

    Now it’s clutch. Will the real Jeff Francouer please stand up?

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    Douglass Says:

    ….holding breath…

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    Smitty Says:

    Well, not a completely unproductive AB

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    Jeremy Says:

    Yay! No DP!

    I love you Jeffy!

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    God, he sucks. That was the best we could possibly have expected, but once again you had Infante, a decent hitter (especially for average) bunt to set up a bad hitter.

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    Dan Says:

    Oh no, CORKY!!!!

    I forgot.


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    Douglass Says:

    up to the hamster….


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    Jeremy Says:

    Corky’s OPS+:


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    Coop Says:


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    Smitty Says:

    Why did Bobby use Chipper already? SHIT!

    Come on Corky!

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    Mike Says:

    Man, shouldn’t we be using Jo Jo or Hudson instead of Corky?

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Hamster Time. Strikeout, or popup? Where’s Reyes?

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    Mr. Swings@Everything Says:

    Wow. What an ugly way to end a ballgame.

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    Smitty Says:

    This is his pitch

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    Dan Says:

    Wild pitch please.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Take one for the team, you rodent.

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    Brandon Says:

    Corky should have taken one for the team.

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    Mr. Swings@Everything Says:


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    Oceanside Mike Says:

    The only hope we have is that he just stands there and does nothing.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Why don’t teams ever try pickoff plays in 3-2 2 out situations?

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    csg Says:

    two bad managerial moves….

    1. using Chipper to PH with no one on and no outs, then using Lilli to ru for him – let lilli bat there and save Chipper just in case there is a chance to tie later

    2. bunting Infante – you had 3 straight guys reach base and then you give them an out in a 1 run game

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    Smitty Says:

    Oh well…

    The errors beat us

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    Oh, dammit.

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    Smitty Says:

    The bunt was fine. YOu had to put the tieing run in scoring position

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    Dan Says:

    I hate this team.

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    Coop Says:

    There ain’t no cure for plain and simple sorriness.

    Good night, ladies and gentlemen. We’ll give ’em heck tomorrow afternoon.

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    Another Alex R. Says:

    I’m watching Spider-Man right now, and I understand that with great power comes great responsibility.

    What about for people with no power, like Jeff Francoeur?

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    csg Says:

    you dont give closers an out, when the 1st three reach base

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    Jeremy Says:

    I’m not gonna criticize the bunt. We would’ve found a way to lose anyway. That’s what bad teams do.

    Stupid Braves.

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    ububba Says:

    Looks like the Dawgs have been watching the Braves.

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    Remy Says:

    Like Smitty said, the errors cost them.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Mean recap is up.

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