Braves Journal, The House That Mac Built

Scarred, but smarter.

09 Jul

Brooks Conrad

Been up for a few days; as a reserve, I like him more as an occasional starter than as a guy who comes off the bench during the game. He doesn’t profile as a pinch-hitter, as he hasn’t hit for average (career minor league BA .261, career AAA BA .248) but compensates with secondary skills (.343 career OBP, .467 career SLG). Basically, he’s not the guy you want hitting with a runner on second and two out.

Conrad was drafted by the Astros out of Arizona State in 2001. The Astros assigned him to low-A ball, and then regular A the next year; he was really too advanced for the level. He went up the system at the normal rate, generally putting up numbers fitting the profile above — low batting averages combined with power, an unusual combination for a middle infielder. In 2006, he led the minor leagues in extra-base hits, slugging .534 thanks to 40 doubles and 24 homers; the Astros decided they didn’t need any of that and didn’t so much as give him a callup. Nor did they need him in 2007 when their starting second baseman (admittedly a future Hall of Famer) slugged .381, their starting third baseman slugged .384, and their starting shortstop slugged .318.

Anyway, after that Conrad went to where guys whose major league franchises don’t appreciate them go — Oakland. He slugged .508 in AAA, but didn’t hit well in a callup and the A’s let him go. The Braves signed him, and he got off to a hot start in Gwinnett; for awhile, he was the top home run hitter in the organization outside Myrtle Beach. He cooled off a bit, but got the callup anyway when Kelly Johnson went on the DL… Has a bad glove reputation, but I don’t know how justified that is. A player of his offensive type (low-average slugger) will always get a bad defensive rep unless he’s a catcher or really, obviously good. He played a fair amount of shortstop in Gwinnett, and in Sacramento last season, after rarely playing the position before. He has a strong record as a base stealer, 110 successful, 34 caught for his career, 51 and 14 in AAA.

Brooks Conrad Statistics and History –

Game Thread.

253 Responses to “Brooks Conrad”

  1. 1
    Smitty Says:

    He made a great play the other night on a ball that hit off the mound. No way Prado or KJ makes that play. Plus, his pinch hit homer the other night in might be the biggest hit of the year so far.

  2. 2
    csg Says:

    Mac, you forgot to tell us that Francoeur sucks in the writeup.

    basically Conrad allows us to send Diory back to AAA if need be

  3. 3
    Mac Thomason Says:

    If both the A’s and the Braves think he can handle shortstop, he can’t be that bad of a defensive player. That’s two organizations that put a priority on defense and (in their different ways) measure it pretty well.

  4. 4
    Mac Thomason Says:

    “Francoeur sucks. It’s possible that Conrad may not. He can hardly suck more.”

  5. 5
    Smitty Says:

    Diory needs to go back to AAA now. I’ll even volunteer to pick him up at the airport. Diory makes Francoeur look like Willie Mays.

  6. 6
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Continuing the beer thread…

    Everything good that you can possibly say about the Brick Store in Decatur is deserved.

    However, I gotta plug The Porter in Little 5 Points. (Full disclosure: it’s founded by a friend of mine.) Without hyperbole, I can say that it’s one of the best beer lists I’ve seen — obviously, high on the pretentious microbrewed stuff that I love, and a high proportion of Belgians among the imports — and the food’s good too.

    If Javier Vazquez were a beer, he’d be Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA.

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    bfan Says:

    Diory Hernandez has a better HR per AB ratio this year than Jeff Francoeur. That doesn’t say much about Diory, but is just one more data point for Frenchie’s suckitude.

  8. 8
    Tony Says:

    Diory is not that bad. He obviously had some ability, or he would not be on the team.

  9. 9
    Weldon Says:

    If you call anything other than Southpaw the worst beer you’ve ever had…you’ve never had Southpaw.

  10. 10
    Seat Painter Says:

    What, you young’uns never tried the generic BEER that came in a white can with black letters?

    Makes Southpaw look like something brewed by the Sam Adams Co.

  11. 11
    Blind Hog Says:

    Good book, though.

  12. 12
    JC Says:

    I’ve tried a lot of bad beer in my life, and I’ll normally tolerate anything that doesn’t have light, dry, or ice attached to it. The only exception I have found is Black Label. When I was in college I picked up a six pack. After a few sips of the first can I just dumped the remainder of the can and the other five cans directly in the trash.

  13. 13
    braves14 Says:

    Seeing as how I’m a poor recent college grad, I don’t drink much other than Bud Light and the occasional Chianti.

  14. 14
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    @ 6

    I forgot about The Porter. It’s new on the scene (at least to me) and I’ve only been there twice. I have weekended at the Brick Store often enough and now Five Seasons west is open within stumbling distance.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    If Jeff Francoeur were a beer, he would be a wine cooler, because he couldn’t even get that right.

  16. 16
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    I think the Francoeur as beer has been settled last thread with O’Douls.

  17. 17
    Tre Says:

    Jeffy would pass for a non-alcoholic pisswater beverage

  18. 18
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    Also @ 6, Twains in Decatur.

    The Brick Store (Decatur)
    Twains (Decatur)
    The Porter (L5P)
    Five Seasons (ATL West, Sandy Springs, Alpharetta)

    Where am I missing?

  19. 19
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Two other people have voted to LEAVE JEFFY ALONE! but they were “guests” and not logged in like the first person. To my shame, one was at the University of Alabama.

  20. 20
    Marc Schneider Says:

    If Francouer were a beer, we would bring back Prohibition.

  21. 21
    braves14 Says:

    20 — ahahahha

  22. 22
    Douglass Says:

    Goin to the Mississippi Braves game tonight in B’ham to check out JayHey and Freeman. Dollar beers and quarter wings cuz it’s thirsty thursday…no work tomorrow… 8)

  23. 23
    bandit31312 Says:

    Schaefers lite, couldnt even drink it when i was 18 and broke

  24. 24
    bwarrend Says:

    Back in the day (early 80s’), Mickey’s was the beer to drink to get going quick. It had a higher alcohol content than regular beer.

    A tall boy Colt .45 would make you puke though, if you didn’t get robbed first. You could only find it in the rougher areas, like the Little Brown Jug in Jax where guys from Skynyrd hung out.

  25. 25
    Tony Says:

    When I was freshman in college, I was given a warm Miller Lite. Haven’t had a beer since.

  26. 26
    bwarrend Says:

    Franceour is Boone’s Farm Strawberry Hill. Only the girls like it.

  27. 27
    PWHjort Says:

    I’m outraged. Per DOB:

    McLouth cf
    Prado 3b
    Anderson lf
    McCann c
    Escobar ss
    Kotchman 1b
    Groundhog rf
    Conrad 2b
    Hanson p

  28. 28
    Jorgbacca Says:

    Beyond the Jeff starting what makes no sense that I can’t see is why you would put Garrett in the 3 hole. He’s something like 1- for his last 15. Not that there are a lot of great options with Chipper out but a McLouth, Prado, Escobar, McCann line makes more sense to me.

  29. 29
    Tre Says:

    so basically the braves are a .500 team with only 8 guys..if we only had one more think of what we could accomplish

  30. 30
    cliff Says:

    braves 14,

    I don’t know if the series has Chianti, but Trader Joe’s has the famous (and pretty damn good) 2 Buck Chuck (in ATL amended to 2 1/2 buck).

    Retired wine executive Charles Shaw buys high end surplus grapes from all of the California majors and high quality minors. Then, batches all of the juice (not separating by vintage) and ferments and bottles.

    His $2.50 Merlot is about as good as several $16 to $18 bottles.

    $30.00 for a case of wine (750 ml bottles). Hard to beat.

  31. 31
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Francoeur might actually thrive in Coors Field. He takes those massive swings that go nowhere, but in Coors they might drop singles. BTW, beer people: Coors does suck, right?

  32. 32
    bfan Says:

    “I’m outraged. Per DOB:”

    Unfriggen believable. .613 OPS; a series in Chicago where he goes 2-9 with 2 infield singles; he has no walks and 1 double in his last 10 games.

    #6 does indeed have his back.

  33. 33
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Sam, also for your list:

    The Brick Store guys opened up a new bar in Decatur called Leon (as in Ponce de) — I’d imagine it’s good, though I’ve never been.

    I gotta give a shoutout to The Vortex, though. My goodness, that place does it right.

  34. 34
    Hanan Says:

    Alex…good calls with both the Porter and the Vortex. They’re excellent staples of Atlanta.

  35. 35
    david Says:

    Can’t believe the lack of love for Milwaukee’s Best. I can honestly say it’s the best beer I’ve ever tasted.


  36. 36
    bandit31312 Says:

    absolutely Mac

  37. 37
    csg Says:

    DOB, says he’s going to ask Cox in a creative way Why Matt isnt playing. I’d like to hear that question and see Bobby’s reaction. Anyways, maybe Diaz should complain about the lineups and say that he would like toplay elsewhere, maybe that will get him in the lineup

  38. 38
    braves14 Says:

    It’s what Mac said the other day. We’re winning with him in the lineup, so they think he must be why.

  39. 39
    spike (back in the ATL) Says:

    The Midway and The Glenwood in East Atlanta (30316 represent!) have very extensive beer lists. The Glenwood also has a nice wine list and reaches quite a bit higher than most places on the menu. It’s good food.

  40. 40
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Yes, Jeffy’s career has deteriorated to the point that he is now basically a mascot.

  41. 41
    ububba Says:

    Coors is awful for a variety of reasons, yes.

    I’m hearing the Phils are close to signing Pedro Martinez.

  42. 42
    Randy Says:

    I’ve actually returned to the days of my youth (’72) and have been drinking Blue Ribbon lately. And enjoying it! Recessionade!

  43. 43
    Ron E. Says:

    If he’s a mascot, put a costume on him, let him jump up and down on top of the dugout, and let Diaz play RF.

  44. 44
    Nasa from france Says:

    I am in Finland right now, and I met one of the 4 people who play baseball here, and although he isn’t super knowledgeable about the MLB, he still knew enough to say “you have a player that keeps on playing and playing even though he sucks, frinköör or something” when I told him I was a Braves fan… His sucktitude is at such a level that even people 12 million miles away from the states know that somewhere in Atlanta, there is a player that should have been sent out 2 years ago !

  45. 45
    sansho1 Says:

    Alex, Leon’s is quite good, as you would expect a Brick Store venture to be. And if you like to talk beer, they’ll bend your ear all night. You can even play bocce outside, which is a nice touch.

    And anyplace that would serve an appetizer of bacon with peanut butter has definitely figured out what’s important in life.

    I also like Twain’s, Sam. In fact, I’m usually there on Friday afternoons. Well, a little less so these days, as if I spend too much time there I’m no good at all on Saturdays….

  46. 46
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    44 would be hilarious if not for being so sad.

    I haven’t been to Leon yet.

  47. 47
    ububba Says:

    Do people in Finland laugh? Never been there, but I’ve met some Finns & they were always pretty dour.

    Sorry I missed the brew talk. It woulda beat driving down I-95 all day.

    Nice beer spot on Long Island: Canterbury Ales in Oyster Bay. Great food, too. As for NYC, I usually go to Irish pubs, with the exception of Rudy’s in Hell’s Kitchen, which is more about the atmosphere than the variety.

    I’m also a fan of La Fin Du Monde (some Canadian friends turned me onto it years ago) and a variety of hefeweizens (great beer with a heavy dinner, actually). Blue Moon is cool—my gal digs it, too. The Chimays are good, too, but I gotta be in the mood for a late one.

    As someone who basically goes to nightclubs for a living, I can tell you that I’ve had more Heinekens (which I don’t hate) than I’ve ever wanted, last night included. For so many places, it’s the only non-US beer in the house. But I know lotsa folks who hate it & would prefer Bud (or maybe strychnine). And yes, a Heineken on tap in Holland is pretty sweet.

    Beer I’ve recently sworn off: Stella. Drinking it’s fine, lotsa clubs have it. But its hangover is worse than PBR & it doesn’t take much.

    But if I had to drink only one beer the rest of my life, it would be Guinness poured in Dublin. The very thought brings a tear to my eye.

  48. 48
    Tiger224 Says:

    Rock Bottom makes some decent beer in ATL neighborhood. It isn’t your traditional pub, by any means, but it’s menu ain’t bad and it’s beer is good.

    As for the Mexican beer…in a battle of two evils: Tecate and Del Sol both kick Corona’s ass.

  49. 49
    Robert Says:

    Two other people have voted to LEAVE JEFFY ALONE! but they were “guests” and not logged in like the first person. To my shame, one was at the University of Alabama.

    I am shocked!….that the University of Alabama has computers. This on the heels of learning they have textbooks. My head is spinning.

    Yes, Jeffy’s career has deteriorated to the point that he is now basically a mascot.

    These days I’d say he’s more of a good luck charm. He plays, we win…at least for the last week or so.

  50. 50
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Watch it, Robert.

  51. 51
    Ethan Says:

    Boulevard Brewery in Kansas City has completely won me over. Fantastic brew.

    I like the Francoeur as O’Douls.

  52. 52
    braves14 Says:

    Personally, I don’t like it when we have away games west of the Mississippi due to the starting times.

  53. 53
    dirt Says:

    There’s a really great brewery here in Houston named St. Arnold’s. Anyone ever tried it? All of their brews are really good but the Amber and Summer Pils are great!

  54. 54
    PWHjort Says:

    On Coors:
    I do not like Coors light. I do, however, enjoy the Coors regular, Banquet Beer, Coors heavy, whatever you want to call it.

  55. 55
    Ethan Says:

    For me, there are two types of beer. Beers to have with dinner, and “get drunk” beers.

    I have a variety of dinner beers, but I still go Busch Light to get drunk. Great beer for impressive empty can totals. Granted I’m only a year out of college so this may have something to do with my mindset.

  56. 56
    ububba Says:

    Dodgers smacking Livan & the Mets 6-1, early.

    If nothing else, we should stay ahead of the Mets today.

  57. 57
    spike (back in the ATL) Says:

    Fave bar beer in US – Victory Storm King Chocolate Stout. $6.00/bottle@9%ABV = happy time under $20.

  58. 58
    csg Says:

    DOB, says we are about to hear from Wren. Vasquez may have some kind of injury and has been scratched from Sundays game

    says its a groin or ab pull and the Braves dont think its serious

  59. 59
    JC Says:

    Coors Light is like making love in a canoe. It’s fucking close to water.

    (told to me at a funeral by my great uncle)

  60. 60
    hankonly Says:

    As the Will Rogers of beer, I approach the finicky beers with suspicion.

    I mean, really, have you ever had a bad Budweiser? I know it’s not trendy (and I’m old enough to have driven from Kentucky to Oklahoma to come back with a bunch of cases of Coors to pay for the trip), but can’t we all just drink Weidemann and get along?

    Oh, yeah, baseball – don’t know about y’all, but Conrad has an “it” quality (at least for a 2nd-baseman) that I appreciate. Toughness? Grit?

    BINGO! That’s it! Conrad is Bobby’s kind of player. Which is what drives me crazy about Francouer – he’s the antithesis of what I used to think was “Bobby’s kind of player”.

    What happened?

    The reason we all loved Bobby was we identified with his thinking. He wasn’t the tactical equivalent of, say, LaRussa but the guys he ran out there every night were gamers.

    How the hell can Bobby Cox not start Diaz over Francouer and still be Bobby Cox?

    Because he’s not still Bobby Cox. And that’s a damn shame.

  61. 61
    csg Says:

    per DOB

    Vazquez strained lower abdominal muscle, flew home and got MRI that showed nothing serious. Braves hope to have him rest over break and move to back of rotation after break, thus avoiding DL stint. But they’ll know more early next week.

  62. 62
    Mac Thomason Says:


  63. 63
    ububba Says:

    Weird item: In completing a suspended game between Washington & Houston today, pitcher Joel Hanrahan got credit for the Nats’ win.

    Thing is, he plays for Pittsburgh. He was traded a few weeks ago.

  64. 64
    Nasa from france Says:

    @ ububba 47
    funny that you ask that in the middle of a beer discussion :-) Yes they do, after a few beers! I’m no beer fan, but people here could name a million brands of beers, and if it exists in the US, my favorite one is “Olvi Sandels”, really good and useful when the Braves bullpen blows a lead at 4 in the morning!

  65. 65
    Hanan Says:

    Cook has a Nen-ish looking delivery…very annoying.

    and he left a game due to the wind knocked out of him? Seems kinda weak.

  66. 66
    c. shorter Says:

    For mass produced ones, IBC’s my favorite for sure. Mug is good. Barq’s is different and good. Not a fan of A&W — a little too creamy. I’ll drink it, though.

  67. 67
    Ethan Says:


    I agree completely. Lot of my friends love Coors light, but I think you’re exactly right. Also, it seems a little overly carbonated

  68. 68
    Brian J. Says:

    Watching “Blazing Saddles” on AMC. I find that it complements our lineup, made from the common clay of the New South. You know, morons.

  69. 69
    Tony Says:

    EASY BRIAN!!…That’s the last thing this team needs…

  70. 70
    Ethan Says:

    Wide strike zone so far tonight.

    How did McCann not take third?

  71. 71
    Tony Says:

    Another bunt….

    That’s my man…..just missed a homer.

  72. 72
    Ethan Says:

    Noooo buuuunnntttt!!!!

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    Ethan Says:


  74. 74
    Marc Says:

    WooHoo Escobar!

  75. 75
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Normally, Jeff would hit into a double play here, but with a runner on third you should expect a strikeout, or possibly a popup.

  76. 76
    ryan c Says:

    so, how will francoeur fail this time?

  77. 77
    Stu Says:

    And Escobar is gimpy.

  78. 78
    ububba Says:

    Is it OK to root for a run-scoring GIDP here?

  79. 79
    Mac Thomason Says:

    That was the best possible outcome — that he would hit a ground ball, and that it would be so pathetic that they couldn’t get the DP.

  80. 80
    ryan c Says:

    jeff hit it soft enough to stay out of the double play. well, at least there’s one good thing about sucking balls.

  81. 81
    Brian J. Says:

    Well, we could use Mongo’s power…

    Frenchy only pawn in game of life. But at least he sucked slightly less than usual.

  82. 82
    Tomas Says:

    Surprised Jeffrey didn’t fail totally there.

  83. 83
    Ethan Says:

    Stupid Jeffy

  84. 84
    Mac Thomason Says:

    If Jeffy was a Mel Brooks movie, he would be “Dracula: Dead and Loving It”.

  85. 85
    Mac Thomason Says:

    And isn’t it convenient that Vazquez misses a Coors Field start?

  86. 86
    c. shorter Says:

    85 — Who are you implicating with your italics, Mac? Javy or those seeking to keep his trade value high?

  87. 87
    bfan Says:

    “Surprised Jeffrey didn’t fail totally there.”

    Fail? He got himself an RBI there, my man; he is so awesomely clutch-don’tcha just love him?

  88. 88
    Ethan Says:

    Damn, this ballpark is big

    EDIT: Anyone be surprised with a football score tonight?

    Garret the glider…

  89. 89
    Tony Says:

    Well that lead didn’t last long….

    As if on que the Phillies tie the stupid Reds

  90. 90
    Brian J. Says:

    Agreed, Mac. A very well-timed injury.

    Dammit, Tommy.

  91. 91
    spike (back in the ATL) Says:

    Well that’s not what we wanted there.

  92. 92
    Tomas Says:

    Who doped up ACHE? He’s like running all over the place.

  93. 93
    Brian J. Says:

    Now we get to see if ACHE’s bat is also doped up.

  94. 94
    Hanan Says:

    Young Francoeurstein

  95. 95
    Tony Says:

    Wow…I’m glad I’m not a Reds fan.

  96. 96
    Tony Says:

    They want nothing to do with Brian…

  97. 97
    Brian J. Says:

    Nope, just dopey.

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    Stu Says:


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    Tomas Says:

    Damn, Esco…

  100. 100
    Tony Says:

    Damn I turned away and it’s a commercial? WTF happen?

  101. 101
    Ethan Says:

    Damnit Escobar

    You could almost see that coming in slow motion.

  102. 102
    Ethan Says:

    Man, those are some shades that Lemke is rocking

  103. 103
    Jon K Says:

    Esco has the brain of a mouse. The guy has all the tools in the world but has crap-for-brains

  104. 104
    sansho1 Says:

    You know, Lemmer, volunteering that you’re an Elton John fan isn’t going to do anything to squelch the rumors….

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    K Says:

    Anyone else notice that kid with the blue shirt and a face only a mother could love right behind home?

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    ryan c Says:

    i called in on the braves “rain delay” show yesterday during the 20 minute delay pre-game. i was discussing some trade possibilities with our good buddy chip caray (some fairly normal stuff such as kj, francoeur, jo-jo, etc..). chip caray was impressed that i was giving equal trade value of our players to what we would get in return(a “change of scenery” trade with stl of francoeur and kj for ludwick or ankiel). then, he said the most absurd thing. he said we should trade vazquez, jo-jo, and escobar for…..roy halladay and scutaro. i kept my cool, but i wanted to call him a dipshit on his own show. how idiotic can one man be? why would the bluejays trade halladay to pick up vazquez. chip caray, if he doesnt know baseball better than that, should quit his job.

  107. 107
    Brian J. Says:

    Jeff Francoeur… Huh?

  108. 108
    Tony Says:

    Kotchman is so slow….

    Finally Francouer…..Finally.

  109. 109
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Coors Field double. He still sucks.

    Kotchman may be hurt, which means Diory at third base and Prado to first, hurting the defense and the offense. Matt Diaz could play first.

  110. 110
    Tomas Says:

    Kotch scored from first on a double. Better check for flying pigs, we might be nearing something apocalyptic.

  111. 111
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Joe orgasming at Jeffy getting from second to third so… I don’t know, I guess he could score on a wild pitch?

  112. 112
    Mac Thomason Says:

    You can’t stop the Prado, you can only hope to contain it.

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    Tomas Says:

    Nitram strikes again, again.

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    Tony Says:

    That’s my Prado….

    Ichiro has 1925 hits in 8.5 mlb seasons. Incredible.

  115. 115
    Brian J. Says:

    Martin! Man, whatever he’s drinking, I want two.

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    anonymous lurker Says:

    Where would we be if Prado had played all year instead of KJ?

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    Tony Says:

    Garrett just missed that one…

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    Jon K Says:

    Where would we be if I was the manager anonymous lurker?

    in first place thats where.

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    Tony Says:

    So no Yunel or Chipper for the rest of the series??????

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Diory in at shortstop. This also hurts both the offense and the defense. You can pretty much assume that this is the case whenever he enters the game at any position.

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    bfan Says:

    I thought chipper would be back tomorrow. Get out there, dude; you have 3 days off, after this series.

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    Parish Says:

    Hanson was single digits on balls out of the strike zone until this inning.

    Come on, Tommy. Get your composure.

  123. 123
    Kyle B. Says:

    Just got here. What happened with Yunel?

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    Brian J. Says:

    Nice thinking there on defense, Martin!

  125. 125
    Tony Says:

    Thanks Tommy.

    Good question. Anyone know when the team “leader” will take the field again?

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    Parish Says:

    By the way, what did Yesco do to himself?

  127. 127
    Parish Says:

    1st 3 innings – 27 strikes, 9 balls.

    This inning – 5 strikes, 11 balls.

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    Ethan Says:

    I’m not sure what happened to Escobar. I assume it’ll be the hip again, but my thinking was with Mac in that it was going to be Kotchman who was going out.

    In any case, it was nothing obvious with Yunel.

    EDIT: I hate this park

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    bfan Says:

    high altitude 270 foot sprint (triple); he just wore himself out?

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    Tony Says:


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    Parish Says:

    According to Gameday, these pitches are borderline, but Hanson is not getting the calls. Does this check out with the naked eye?

  132. 132
    Mac Thomason Says:

    This place is such an effing joke.

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    the braves blow here Says:

    Was ACHE walking to ball on that one?

  134. 134
    Tony Says:

    No they are not strikes. He was pitching scared and paid for it.

  135. 135
    Parish Says:

    It’s really a good thing we got that double play.

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    Mike N. Says:

    Victorino gets the Final Spot? Lame.

    Sorry to start up the beer discussion again, but I just got back from golfing, and my friend bought some bud light for the round. I had one, and it reminded me of my dislike for Bud Light. I honestly don’t know how people can chug that stuff.

  137. 137
    Ethan Says:


    Nothing O’Flahtery vs. Drew appallingly bad, but it seems like the low strike isn’t being called…both inside and out

    I’ve noticed several high calls for strikes though…on the black as well

  138. 138
    Parish Says:

    1st 3 innings – 27 strikes, 9 balls.

    Final count on the 4th inning – 10 strikes, 16 balls.

  139. 139
    Tony Says:

    W/O Beltran, Reyes, and no pitching ….the Mets may be done.

    Losing 11-2 to the Dodgers at Citi again.

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    Brian J. Says:

    Did McLough really range that far into left field to catch Fowler’s fly ball?

  141. 141
    Tony Says:

    Man that OF is huge……ridiculous.

    C’mon ump….this is not the Astrodome.

  142. 142
    Brian J. Says:

    Frenchy continues to simulate usefulness.

  143. 143
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Further evidence re: effing joke.

  144. 144
    Tomas Says:

    Maybe they can trade Jeffrey to Coors.

  145. 145
    Tony Says:

    They need a dome in Denver….

  146. 146
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Jeffy is a poor man’s Dante Bichette.

  147. 147
    Ethan Says:

    Kinda like how Albie Lopez was a poor man’s John Smoltz?

  148. 148
    Hanan Says:

    I wonder if Hanson has a quadraphonic blaupunkt.

  149. 149
    Jeff M. Says:

    Ethan, be nice. Albie may not have had a fast ball or, really, any other pitch, but it’s just not nice to compare any one to the suckitude that is Francouer.

  150. 150
    Tomas Says:

    Nitram with yet another hit.

  151. 151
    desert Says:

    How did McLouth ground into a fielder’s choice ninety feet past the infield?

  152. 152
    Ethan Says:


    Is my guess for the number of times that ACHE has forced a pitching change this year

  153. 153
    Ethan Says:


    Weird play. Nate hit a sinking line drive. Looked like it was caught so Brooks turned around. By the time he realized it wasn’t he was DOA

  154. 154
    desert Says:

    Thanks, Ethan

  155. 155
    Tony Says:

    Why are you running at Coors field? I agree with Ken Macha a little about running into outs. If Conrad isn’t running, he probably is safe.

  156. 156
    Jeff M. Says:

    okay, why did Hanson hit for himself only to be lifted in the next inning? (I’m watching on Gameday, so I’m not actually watching)

  157. 157
    Tony Says:

    They took Hanson out anyway? So why not just pinch hit for Hanson?

  158. 158
    Ethan Says:

    Bobby wanted to bunt and didn’t want to waste a PH for it.

  159. 159
    ryan c Says:

    bobby cox is an idiot. the other night, he brings in matt diaz to bunt when there were at least 4 better options on the bench.

    tonight, he leaves in hanson, knowing he sucks at bunting, to try and bunt. then, he takes him out anyway.

    sam, where are you to enlighten me on the idiocy that is bobby cox? what could he possibly gain from such a bonehead play?

    ethan, that doesnt make sense. there are at least 4 options that wouldnt be considering “wasting” a pinch hitter (jurrjens, blanco, lowe, vazquez). just dumb logic.

  160. 160
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Yeah, it was a bunt attempt, just not a very good one; the Braves basically have a two-man bench tonight, Diaz and Blanco, and you can’t waste one on a bunt in the sixth inning.

  161. 161
    Tomas Says:

    Better than having Diaz pinch bunt.

  162. 162
    Tony Says:

    Good point Ethan…

    He only has Ross, Diaz and Blanco left since Hernandez is in the game and Chipper is useless

  163. 163
    braves14 Says:

    Garrett Anderson is dangerously close to going under a .700 OPS, which would also be pretty much below replacement level.

  164. 164
    ryan c Says:

    not true. chipper is available to pinch hit tonight. they have diaz, chipper, blanco, and ross. he could have used an extra pitcher or blanco.

  165. 165
    Tony Says:

    I’m not complaining about Anderson, at least his groin isn’t hurting…..

  166. 166
    Tomas Says:

    Please sprint to first next time, Mr. Logan.

  167. 167
    Ethan Says:

    This would be three days in a row…again, for Gonzo and Soriano.

    We really need a ballin effort from Lowe tomorrow

  168. 168
    braves14 Says:

    Someone tell me again, why is Subzero here? Saying he can “play” shortstop isn’t an acceptable answer.

  169. 169
    Tony Says:

    Lowe era is 4.56?? Ouch.

  170. 170
    Tomas Says:

    Not totally sure about Moylan in Coors… fingers crossed.

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    Parish Says:

    Bobby makes a good move there. He’s still thinking, occasionally.

  172. 172
    braves14 Says:

    170 — Well, mainly because there aren’t any better options, though Moylan’s been pretty good lately.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    I think he took a bad angle there.

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    Tomas Says:


    Oh, I’m one of the biggest Moylan fans here probably. I just think he needs a little break on his pitches to get strike outs or ground balls, and I’m always afraid of what happens with that at Coors.

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    Tony Says:

    He took a terrible angle and then rushed it.

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    Ethan Says:


    Agreed. Should have slowed down and laid out.

    Pete needs to watch third

    EDIT: or not

  177. 177
    Tony Says:

    Oh well….

    I guess Tomas fears were realize.

    Bad pitch.

  178. 178
    Parish Says:

    Well, I knew there was no way they were getting a win for Hanson…

  179. 179
    Jon K Says:

    who was it hit to?

  180. 180
    Tony Says:

    It was down the 3rd base line…

  181. 181
    braves14 Says:

    179 — Conrad.

  182. 182
    Jon K Says:

    Garrett anderson will be the single reason why we lose this game. A trade for a LF and a RF will be appreciated ASAP Franky Wren

  183. 183
    Tomas Says:

    EOF with a little giddy-up.

  184. 184
    Parish Says:

    Any chance Bobby flips Soriano and Gonzo?

    Or gives Medlen an inning?

  185. 185
    Tony Says:

    Yeah…looked like O’Fla just got pissed and started throwing gas.

  186. 186
    Tony Says:

    Have a night Frenchy….

  187. 187
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Cheap doubles. He still sucks.

  188. 188
    Tomas Says:

    Sell high on Jeffrey. Like right now.

    Bunt pop-up, g’damn. Brooks, stop sitting next to Jeffrey.

  189. 189
    braves14 Says:

    The Groundhog strikes again.

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    Brian J. Says:

    3-4 with two doubles. Alright, who’s disguising himself as Jeffy-Boy? I think it’s Old Man Winters. (Yeah, yeah, meddling kids…)

  191. 191
    Ethan Says:

    Hanging offspeed pitches are Jeffy’s bread and butter

    C’mon Conrad…sigh

  192. 192
    braves14 Says:

    Why run Blanco when you could use Jurrjens?

  193. 193
    Tony Says:

    The Atlanta “Bunting” Braves….

  194. 194
    Ethan Says:


    Good point.

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    ryan c Says:

    so, what’s the logic now? cox wastes 2 players on a walk and wouldnt waste one on a pinch bunt. he’s an idiot. plain and simple.

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    Mark B. Says:

    I like how that will count as a Game Played for Chipper..

  197. 197
    ryan c Says:

    maybe jeff gets high on the altitude.

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    PWHjort Says:

    That was a hilariously bad play. Mac, you can probably add “can’t bunt” to the player analysis.

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    Ethan Says:

    Chipper running the bases was never an option.

    Bullshit high strike on Nate

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    I could also add, “nearly as bald as I am without the excuse”.

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    ryan c Says:

    jurrjens? medlen? c’mon ethan. it’s not rocket science.

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    Tony Says:

    Bad baserunning play that maybe stopped a big inning
    Bad angle on defense that cost us a run
    Failing to get a bunt down in key situation

    Tough night for the career minor leaguer Conrad….

  203. 203
    Mac Thomason Says:

    The baserunning problem was with the umpire and not Conrad.

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    braves14 Says:

    Now we’re going to lose.

  205. 205
    Ethan Says:


    Already agreed with that @194. I’d have put Jurrjens in; however, many teams don’t use pitchers to do anything but pitch except as a last resort. It’s not unreasonable.

    I’m sure both the Yankees and Chien Ming Wang could give you a pretty decent argument as to why.

  206. 206
    ryan c Says:

    so, if bobby were to be fair, diaz will start tomorrow. when diaz goes 3-4 and the braves lose, francoeur gets the start the next day.

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    Tony Says:

    If I were not a Braves fan, I would hate Gonzo….

  208. 208
    braves14 Says:

    I would have used Soriano this inning and saved Gonzo for when Helton and Hawpe come up.

  209. 209
    ryan c Says:

    jurrjens and medlen have both pinch ran this year. it’s not like it’s foreign strategy to bobby cox. sometimes, i honestly think that he doesnt “think”. there have been many creative ways to conserve his bench tonight, but not pulling hanson was dumb, especially if he’s going to turn around and burn 2 players in 1 at-bat.

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    Stu Says:

    Helton and Hawpe will be up this inning, don’t worry.

  211. 211
    Tony Says:

    If the braves had a 1-2-3 eight and ninth they would not have had to worry about Hawpe and Helton, but…..

  212. 212
    braves14 Says:

    He did not try to get out of the way.

  213. 213
    Mac Thomason Says:

    For the last GD time.. You have to try to get away from the baseball! This isn’t that difficult! It’s right in the rulebook!

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    Parish Says:

    203 – Yeah, I would blame the umpire, too. Did anyone see if Conrad got help from Snitker on that play? He might have a share.

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    Ethan Says:

    I wonder how many wins we have this year where either Gonzo or Soriano DIDN’T pitch.

    Gotta be less than 5

  216. 216
    ryan c Says:

    if i were mike gonzalez, i would take my glove off and throw one up there right-handed just to show that my pitching arm is tired.

  217. 217
    Tony Says:

    It was the umpire fault according to Joe and Jon….

    We really will not know until after the game.

  218. 218
    Stu Says:

    I wonder how many wins we have this year where either Gonzo or Soriano DIDN’T pitch.

    Gotta be less than 5

    Probably less than 5 we’ve lost in which they haven’t pitched, too. They’re in there every night.

    PS: Gonzo sure has killed us this week.

  219. 219
    braves14 Says:

    That was inevitable.

  220. 220
    Ethan Says:


  221. 221
    DJ Says:

    That’s what happens when you pitch the same guy EVERY night.

  222. 222
    ryan c Says:

    mike gonzalez needs REST!

  223. 223
    braves14 Says:

    At least Soriano won’t pitch tonight.

  224. 224
    Ethan Says:

    This is what happens when you consistently bring those guys in with 4-5 run leads. With that, I will agree that Bobby has been an idiot

  225. 225
    Tony Says:

    Maybe if he conserved some of his energy w/o doing that stupid rocking, he would not need rest.

    Bobby has really been overmanaging the past few games…maybe he is trying to prove he’s still got it.

  226. 226
    sdp Says:

    Bobby’s going to put Gonzo over his knee and spank him after the game.

  227. 227
    anonymous lurker Says:

    Maybe this is what happens when your infield is Kotchman-Conrad-Diory-Prado.

  228. 228
    braves14 Says:

    By the way, this home plate umpire is a Rockies fan.

  229. 229
    ryan c Says:

    games pitched by nl relievers and ranks:

    moylan: 47 (first in games pitched)
    gonzalez: 46 (tied for 2nd)
    o’flaherty: 44 (tied for 3rd)

    bobby is an idiot. these players should sue him for being overworked.

  230. 230
    Ethan Says:

    Huston IS due to blow one…

  231. 231
    Parish Says:

    Now Garrett gets a hit.

    He has to learn to time these things better.

  232. 232
    Ethan Says:

    This would be the spot for Diaz

    EDIT: subzero…doing his thing

  233. 233
    braves14 Says:

    Subzero is twice as bad as Francoeur.

  234. 234
    Tony Says:

    I wish McCann would have took a pitch…

  235. 235
    Parish Says:

    Set up for the one-run road loss.

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    jjschiller Says:

    If Diaz had pinch hit, who would have played short in the bottom?

  237. 237
    Ethan Says:

    Horrible strike call on Kotch

  238. 238
    Tony Says:

    That umpire is a joke….

    Thanks for the loss Bobby Cox

  239. 239
    Ethan Says:


    Who cares? If you don’t make it out of the 9th, you’ve lost anyway.

    Outside of Frenchy (excusing this Bizarro night) Hernandez is the surest out on the team.

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    jjschiller Says:

    That’s just dumb.

  241. 241
    braves14 Says:

    We’ll lose tomorrow too with Lowe pitching, no Chipper, and no Escobar.

  242. 242
    Jon K Says:

    It’s garrett anderson’s fault the guy continues to show you why he’s a complete ass clown. He can’t field worth a tinker’s dam out in LF and he never gets hits when you actually need them

  243. 243
    Ethan Says:

    How is that dumb? I’d rather a makeshift infield defense and a tie/lead, than just straight up losing….which is exactly what happened

    What is dumb is keeping your best pinch hitter on the bench at the most crucial part of the game and sending a sure out to the plate

  244. 244
    anonymous lurker Says:

    Yeah, it’s Garret Anderson’s fault that Mike Gonzalez suddenly can’t pitch.

  245. 245
    Tony Says:

    Jon K….

    You are calling Garrett Anderson an ass clown? Maybe you need to settle down.

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    csg Says:

    this should help Wren be a seller…

    we’ll probably be at least 6 back by the break with a negative run differential and one of the best pitching staffs in baseball

    sell Gonzo, Soriano, Lowe/Vasquez, sell them all

  247. 247
    csg Says:

    Jon we needed a hit down two in the bottom of the ninth and he delivered

  248. 248
    Parish Says:

    No way they should have pinch hit Diaz there. Aside from leaving you without a shortstop, they might have needed him for the pitcher’s spot.

  249. 249
    csg Says:

    Im tired of watching McCann keep calling for Mike’s hanging breaking balls all the time also. Make someone hit his fastball

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    the braves blow here Says:

    Garrett Anderson has been worthless the past two weeks.

  251. 251
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Recap that is mostly a rant about this joke of a ballpark is up.

  252. 252
    Parish Says:

    KJ – 2-for-2 with a triple tonight. And 3 walks!

    csg – I don’t think we become a seller. Hopefully, just not a buyer.

  253. 253
    Ethan Says:


    If it gets that far, use Ross.

    Again, what kind of odds would you have to be given to bet $20 that Diory gets a hit there?

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