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28 Sep

Braves 2, Marlins 1 (11 innings)

Florida Marlins vs. Atlanta Braves – Box Score – September 27, 2010 – ESPN.

Omar Infante rescucitates the season! After the usual ten innings of either not hitting with runners on base or not mounting any threats at all, the Braves rallied in the eleventh inning — having apparently managed enough distance from Tommy Hanson to absolutely ensure he wouldn’t get any credit — to win the game. Nate McLouth walked leading off the inning, and Alex Gonzalez bunted him over. (You know how I feel about non-pitcher bunts, but it’s arguably the right call in that situation.) Rick Ankiel walked, and both moved up on a wild pitch. Freddie Freeman struck out looking (on a classic “past the plate outside but caught strike” pitch) but Omar actually pulled the ball down the left field line for what would have been a double had it not ended the game.

For the first ten innings, the Braves’ lone run was a fourth-inning homer by Brian McCann. Having given Hanson one run, they evidently expected him to hold it, and damn if he didn’t come close, shutting out the Marlins for the first seven innings before a single, a stolen base, and a double with one out in the eighth tied the game. With two out, Bobby brought in Jonny Venters, in his continuing effort to see if he can make a pitcher’s arm actually detach at the elbow in the process of throwing a changeup. It didn’t happen this time, as Venters got a strikeout. Billy Wagner followed, then Peter Moylan for an inning and two-thirds (still no arm detachment) then Michael Dunn struck out the only man he faced to get a win. That’s really fair, that is.

328 Responses to “Braves 2, Marlins 1 (11 innings)”

  1. 1
    Marc Schneider Says:

    Thank god the Padres are even more inept offensively than the Braves. This wild card race is turning into the battle of the midgets.

    How can the Braves win with this lineup?

    At least with the Rockies fading, I will be able to root for ANYONE playing the Phillies. Seeing Phillie fans unhappy is my goal in life now.

    Chip Carey is unbelievable. He acts as if he has never seen a home run before–of course, with the Braves it’s so rare that maybe his reaction makes sense.

    For purposes of helping the team, AAR, I’m going to say it–Heyward is a drag on the offense. That ought to do it.

  2. 2
    BFedRec Says:

    Watching the “top 25 moments” thing (AGAIN) during the rain delay REALLY made me want to see them get to the post season this one last time with Bobby. Without The Prado I don’t have much confidence we’ll make it very far in the post season, but I would like to GET there.

  3. 3
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Twitter / Search – #BravesShakespeare.

  4. 4
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I am fist-pumping at my computer screen right now.

    But seriously, I hate this f’in team. Tommy Hanson needs to man up or Wren needs to trade this clown before the rest of the league realizes what a freaking joke he is. He’s all hype, no results.

  5. 5
    Marc Schneider Says:

    Jim (Doylestown, pa)

    Is there any way the Phillies resign Jayson Werth? If not, who will be the right-handed bat that replaces him? Jeff Francoeur– good defense and good numbers against left handers. Phillies like there defense!


  6. 6
    Tony Says:

    Prado is turning out to be very fragile…last year migraines, this year finger, legs, now a hip pointer. At least Chipper injuries didn’t occur until he was in his 30s.

  7. 7
    csg Says:

    #4 – no kidding, he’s lost more games than he’s won. Wren needs to move him now.

    getting a hurting Prado out of the lineup isnt necessarily a bad thing. Hopefully, Glaus or Conrad can give us a two/three week spark

  8. 8
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Could Glaus or Hinske be Hornermania? (“Not Bob Horner, but an incredible simulation!”)

  9. 9
    Seat Painter Says:

    Now is the time for the Folk Hero to cement his legacy as The Atlanta Brave Who’ll Never Have To Buy A Drink In Town Again.

    It’s kind of a long status, which befits the diminuitive FH.


    Heyward – Offensive Drag
    Hanson – Doesn’t Know How To Win.
    Melky – Still Fat.

  10. 10
    Adam M Says:

    I strongly advocate for letting Prado rest. Right now, he’s hurting the team far more than helping it by staying in the lineup.

  11. 11
    Marc Schneider Says:


    And he only struck out three hitters last night. And didn’t hit a home run–if he wanted runs, why didn’t he get them himself? What the hell’s wrong with him? Plus, his arm is literally going to fall off his body any minute due to his mechanics.

    Bring back Russ Ortiz; there’s a guy who knew how to win.

  12. 12
    csg Says:

    I dont think Prado sees the field again this year, playoffs included

  13. 13
    Smitty Says:

    I think Prado will be back if we make the playoffs.

    No one is saying it, but this team is resilient! They keep looking at the season ending, only to pull it out at the end.

  14. 14
    Ron E. Says:

    Mike Dunn really knows how to win. He could teach Tommy a thing or two.

  15. 15
    csg Says:

    #11 – Bruce Chen is 11-7, Tommy Hanson is 10-11

    Id make that trade right now, W-L records mean everything

  16. 16
    Robert Says:

    The Braves, Padres, and Giants race to the finish! The Deadball Era is back!

  17. 17
    Ron E. Says:

    #16 in the Braves’ case it’s more like the Deadbat Era.

  18. 18
    Nick Says:

    I agree with Smitty. If we make the playoffs, Prado will be back, and the rest probably will have helped him.

    Also, at least everyone on our team now knows what a playoff game feels like. Last night’s game was every bit as tense as any playoff game I’ve ever watched.

  19. 19
    Tony Says:

    I just wish there was a way this team could get two days off. Especially Infante, Heyward, Agon and McCann. They have to be exhausted.

  20. 20
    cliff Says:

    I still wish we could raise the ghost of Pythagorous. As of today, we lead Phillies in run differential and are 6 games behind.

  21. 21
    cliff Says:

    Tony @ 19,

    They get one on Thursday. That is about it EXCEPT that I think Ross should catch the next game against a left hander (I know Ross has a reverse career platoon split, but when McCann is tired or ailing or off I sense his usual slight to moderate problems against lefthanders become monumental, and Ross is better defensively).

    With Prado out (and he should be) A gon and Infante will have to play almost every inning. Therefore, avoid extra innings in the positive way (by being ahead at the end of regulation).
    I agree that if this team only wins 2 the rest of the way out, it is almost certainly dead.

    the San Francisco / San Diego last series really helps us. At least 1 of them has to lose every night. A sweep either way probably puts us in (maybe even if we only win 2). So, the worst for us would probably be a 2 out of 3 in the Padres favor, becasue, everything else being equal, that would put them even with each other.

  22. 22
    Smitty Says:


    They could all get a rest if we sweep the Marlins and take the first game from the Phillies and the Padres fall on thier faces.

  23. 23
    Johnny Says:

    Glaus or Folk Hero at 3rd?

  24. 24
    Smitty Says:

    As I figure it, it seems our magic number is really 4 becasue of the SD-SF match up.

  25. 25
    RobBroad4th Says:

    @23, I’ll be surprised if Glaus starts at third. He can barely get off the field for a pinch runner these days.

  26. 26
    ububba Says:

    Conrad at 3rd.

    Go Cubs.

    Go D-Backs.

    Go Braves.

  27. 27
    Marc Schneider Says:

    One thing no one should doubt about this team, regardless of what happens, is its heart and, yes, resilience. Despite the injuries and the struggles, they have battled all year. I think that’s a tribute to Bobby Cox even if they don’t make it.

  28. 28
    ryan c Says:

    can someone explain to me why mlbtr has saito as a type A free agent even though he’s arb-eligible next year? i didnt think arb-eligible players could be labeled type a or b.

  29. 29
    csg Says:

    Ill tribute Bobby Cox a little more if Farnsworth doesnt pitch again

  30. 30
    ryan c Says:

    agreed, and that’s why, for about 2 years now that i’ve held my tongue when my eyes tell me that the braves look like zombies out there. when teams arent winning, they’re not going to look happy. smiling teams never look like zombies. it’s the frowning ones that tricks the eyes.

  31. 31
    csg Says:

    I just wish these guys would quit taking so many 2-0 3-1 pitches. It seems that they either take 1st pitch fastballs and then swing at everything outside the zone or they get a good count and then look for a walk. They need to be a bit more aggressive in the box (well AAG and Ankiel dont)

  32. 32
    JoeyT Says:

    All players are ranked for those type designations.

    Maybe when Saito signed, he was able to get guaranteed free agency this year (like a guarantee of a non-tender or something). If there were multiple clubs competing for him, he could have swung it.

  33. 33
    FlaBravesFan Says:

    Off topic, my daughter and I are starting a skate board design company (she’s an amazing artist) I need some help setting up the E-commerce site…anyone wanna donate some time? I might be able to pay some, but I can surely give you a custom skate board, even a Braves one, she’s designing me one now!

  34. 34
    Ron E. Says:

    #29 and doubly if Melky doesn’t start.

  35. 35
    jdpeace Says:

    I won’t tribute Bobby myself, but I will help put someone in a tributing position.

  36. 36
    justhank Says:

    tributing position? I think Sting is into that …

    Whoever Zambrano’s anger management counselor is, they deserve the Noble Peace Prize.

  37. 37
    csg Says:

    pitching matchups left for ATL, SF, and SD

    Atl – Hudson vs Sanches
    Atl – Lowe vs Miller
    Atl – Hanson vs Phi
    Atl – Hudson vs Phi
    Atl – Lowe vs Phi

    SF – Sanchez vs Lopez (ARI)
    SF – Bumgarner vs Kennedy
    SF – Lincecum vs Enright
    SF – Zito vs Richard
    SF – Cain vs Stauffer
    SF – ?? vs Latos

    SD – Latos vs Dempster
    SD – Young vs Wells
    SD – Garland vs Gorzelanny
    SD – Richard vs Zito
    SD – Stauffer vs Cain
    SD – Latos vs ??

  38. 38
    ububba Says:

    Apparently, Zambrano’s mother from Venezuela was at the San Diego game. Cubs should put her on contract.

  39. 39
    hpotter Says:

    Do you guys think the Phils will start Kendrick, Hamels, Halladay this weekend or rest Hamels and Halladay and start one of their AA/AAA pitchers? Or maybe give Hamels and Halladay 3 innings and then pull them?

  40. 40
    Dusty Says:


    Actually I think the magic # is still 5 since SF has one less loss than SD. Meaning if SD won 2 of 3 from SF (worst case scenario at least for now) and they both won every other game SD and SF would tie at 92-70 and we still have to go 4-1 just to tie.

  41. 41
    stupup74 Says:

    A little fun for everyone today:

  42. 42
    ububba Says:

    Wishful Thinking Dept.

    How ’bout we finish a game ahead of SD & SF? They finish tied, do a playoff & we get the winner?

    I might rather face Cincy (at least for travel reasons), but I’d like to see one of those NL West teams burn its staff a little bit more if we’re gonna face one of ’em.

    OK, back to reality: Just win, baby.

  43. 43
    Kevin Lee Says:

    ububba and friends
    Any comments on the Rock and Roll HOF nominees?
    I’m hoping the Rock Gods smile for Darlene Love

  44. 44
    Marc Schneider Says:

    I think they will pitch them a few innings. I don’t think they want Halladay and Hamels going a week or more iwthout pitching. I suspect the Phillies will rest the next couple of days and, unfortunately, begin preparing for the playoffs on Friday.

  45. 45
    hpotter Says:

    it’s up to Lee and Melk-Dud for RBIs tonight?

    Infante – 4
    Heyward – 9
    McCann – 2
    Lee – 3
    Cabrera – 7
    Gonzalez – 6
    Conrad – 5
    Ankiel – 8
    Hudson – 1

  46. 46
    csg Says:

    stats against Anibal

    Omar 3-15
    Heyward 2-4
    Bmac 9-25
    Lee 1-3
    Melky 3-6
    AAG 1-5
    Brooks 0-0
    Ankiel 2-2

    those sitting
    Troy 0-5
    Nate 0-9
    Hinske 0-10
    Diaz 2-8
    Ross 2-7
    Prado 6-19

  47. 47
    jdpeace Says:

    Melky is batting FIFTH. Is this season an elaborate prank show? I feel like we are going to miss out on the playoffs in the last game and Ashton is going to burst onto the film yukking it up with Melky.

  48. 48
    jdpeace Says:

    Melky owns Anibal in a statistically insignificant sample size. It’s thin gruel, but I can plan an evening around it.

  49. 49
    ryan c Says:

    melky batting 5th is utterly mind-boggling.

  50. 50
    ububba Says:


    I’m pretty sure the Beasties will get in.

    But the whole RRHOF thing is kinda weird. If Grandmaster Flash & The Furious 5 gets in, doesn’t Donna Summer have to get in, too? Not that I’m against it or anything, being a club/DJ get-your-groove-on kinda guy (FWIW, “I Feel Love” is one of my favorite songs ever), but y’know, we’re a long way from “Hoochie Coochie Man.”

    And can I root against Bon Jovi? I can.

    But other than that—Tom Waits, Alice Cooper, Joe Tex, etc.—I guess I’m cool with it.

  51. 51
    OneEye Says:

    When you can’t score, bunts + hit and run + SB are the way to go. Small ball, just try to win innings. Unfortunately, Cox forgets all this for most of the season and then especially in the playoffs.

  52. 52
    braves14 Says:

    Bobby’s probably trying to boost Melky’s ego since he sat the last few days.

  53. 53
    Ron E. Says:

    When forced to choose between Melky’s meaningless 3-6 against Sanchez or his .518 OPS in September (McLouth is OPSing .894), Bobby’s decision was to bat Melky fifth. I guess he didn’t want that tribute.

  54. 54
    Ron E. Says:

    #51 the problem is more that Bobby forgets to start his best hitters.

  55. 55
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Sucky Bon Jovi Nominated For The Sucky Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame | Make Major Moves.

    The only members of that group I feel at all strongly about are Waits and Nyro. Well, Neil Diamond, despite the fact that he is not Rock and Roll at all, probably should be in. I’d love to see an utterly bizarre group of inductees — say those three, the Beasties, and LL Cool J.

    Hall & Oates are still not in.

  56. 56
    Kevin Lee Says:

    Thanks. I’m struggling with Neil Diamond. But I can remember when “Hot August Night” was considered a rock albulm.

  57. 57
    JoeyT Says:

    Why are people so stuck on an “RBI guy” hitting 5th? That only matters in the first inning, and then only if two guys ahead of him don’t get out.

    I don’t think it’s a bad idea to spread outs throughout the lineup. As long as you’re switching handedness every couple of batters, it probably doesn’t matter that much.

  58. 58
    Mac Thomason Says:

    You’re better off concentrating the outs, and putting your best hitters together.

  59. 59
    BFedRec Says:

    We’ve been both concentrating AND spreading out our outs… over the top 9 spots in the batting order.

  60. 60
    justhank Says:

    Yeah, the older I get the more Neil Diamond strikes me as Neal Sedaka trying to be a badass.

    And why not Hinske?

  61. 61
    Stu Says:

    The outs are being
    Concentrated, all in the
    Person of Melky.

  62. 62
    ububba Says:

    Laura Nyro was a super-influential songwriter & that goes a long way in RRHOF.

    IMO, Neil Diamond’s fine. He’s in “The Last Waltz.” That’s gotta count for something, right?

  63. 63
    Seat Painter Says:

    Melky has his own
    unique Schwatzchild Radius
    a Black Hole of outs.

  64. 64
    Randy Says:

    I don’t really want to get into the RRHOF debate, but seriously in what dream reality would Joe Tex be considered a better candidate than Neil Diamond? I mean Skinny Legs and All and I Gotcha is a better resume than Solitary Man and Sweet Caroline, plus about 30 more?

  65. 65
    ububba Says:

    One is the essence of rock-n-roll and the other kinda isn’t.

    Plus, Neil Diamond is kinda Grandma Rock.

  66. 66
    Nick Says:

    I would probably bat Conrad second and move Heyward back to third, but I guess he’s just not going to bat Heyward third…ever. I would also very seriously consider starting Glaus in one of these games to see if he’ll give us any pop. We seriously need it.

    Also, we’ve gotta try Diaz in left at some point. I realize Ankiel’s the only one of our OFs who can play a proper CF, but McLouth at least plays one on TV. The offense is more important right now than the defense. Bring in Ankiel if you need a defensive replacement.

  67. 67
    Randy Says:

    Great Neil Sedaka songs: The Immigrant, Bad Blood, Breaking Up is Hard to Do, Laughter in the Rain. Many many more for other artists, in pop/adult contemporary. Pretty damn good, of course no Joe Tex.

  68. 68
    Mike N. Says:

    No one likes Bon Jovi?

  69. 69
    Mac Thomason Says:

    The RRHOF’s choices on songwriters can be odd. Bacharach and David still aren’t in. As for Diamond, once you’ve inducted Madonna and ABBA, you can’t really justify not putting him in for not being Rock & Roll enough.

    Bon Jovi will get in, of course, because they need a showcase act for the ceremony. I’d take J. Geils over ten Bon Jovis.

  70. 70
    justhank Says:

    Mac, by that standard The Archies will soon be enshrined.

  71. 71
    ububba Says:

    And don’t forget that Sedaka-penned rock-n-roll classic, “Love Will Keep Us Together,” by Captain & Tennille.

    Back in the day, J. Geils Band was pretty bad-ass actually. Totally reconstituted R&B with all the dynamics & stagecraft, but a great, great show.

  72. 72
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Elvis Andrus, Coldplay fans and gentlemen.

  73. 73
    Stu Says:

    Out of nowhere, a
    Suggested Stenchy motto:
    Make outs, not WAR. Yes!?

  74. 74
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Well, by the Bon Jovi standard, you’d soon be enshrining Poison and Warrant.

  75. 75
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I’m hoping the Rock Gods smile for Darlene Love

    Speaking of Darlene Love, here’s her performing “River Deep – Mountain High” on Letterman. Arguably one of the greatest songs of the whole Motown era. (The songwriters, Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry, are already in the Hall.)

  76. 76
    ububba Says:

    Well, before you put in any of those hair-metal bands, you’d have to enshrine Kiss.

    And the RRHOF committee—rock crits, many with Rolling Stone mag connections—will never do that. Kiss & Rolling Stone have enjoyed their mutual contempt for a long time.

    Plus, the last thing the world needs is an acceptance speech from Gene Simmons.

  77. 77
    Bethany Says:

    @68 I do. But I’m also giddy over the Britney Spears episode of Glee tonight, so…

  78. 78
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Yeah, that would probably create a sheer self-publicizing black hole from which nothing could escape.

  79. 79
    BigE Says:

    Marshall Tucker to the Hall, please.

  80. 80
    Dusty Says:

    Bethany, not ashamed to admit that I also am giddy for Glee tonight.

    But I haven’t liked Bon Jovi since Slippery When Wet

  81. 81
    Mike N. Says:

    I liked ‘It’s my life’, what’s wrong with that one?

  82. 82
    spike Says:

    @28, if a player is offered and turns down arb, and signs elsewhere, the Type A/B thing applies.

  83. 83
    Stu Says:

    But Takashi is
    Still under team-controlled arb
    Next year. Or should be.

  84. 84
    Smitty Says:


    I am shocked KISS isn’t in the RHOF. I went there one summer, a little overrated.

  85. 85
    Stu Says:

    Overrated? I
    Don’t even know anyone
    Who rates it, at all.

  86. 86
    ububba Says:

    The real question, however, is: What were you doing in Cleveland?

  87. 87
    Smitty Says:

    I was dating a girl who had family there and she wanted to know if i wanted to go see the RHOF and an Indians game. I went.

    I think the RHOF should be in Memphis

  88. 88
    ububba Says:

    Probably right, but it’s partially because of Alan Freed, the Cleveland radio DJ who championed rock-n-roll.

  89. 89
    Stu Says:

    Oh, Smitty, let’s be
    Brutally honest: Nothing
    Should be in Memphis.

  90. 90
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Ten better places for the RRHOF than Cleveland:

    New York
    Los Angeles
    San Francisco

  91. 91
    spike Says:

    He got free agency in
    2008, sorry.

  92. 92
    Stu Says:

    Non-tendered. Doesn’t
    Change years of team control. Weird
    Initial contract?

    Also, how do you
    Pronounce “2008” with
    Just three syllables?

  93. 93
    ububba Says:

    A better place than Macon for the Georgia Music Hall of Fame: Athens.

  94. 94
    Smitty Says:

    I personally like Memphis.

  95. 95
    csg Says:

    great article on Bobby from Stark

  96. 96
    Smitty Says:

    Macon is the worst place on earth. It is the anti-Disney Land

  97. 97
    spike Says:

    I think it does, friend,
    Once granted. Arb is

  98. 98
    Stu Says:

    Tim Dierkes begs to
    ! Seriously, how
    Do you pronounce this?

  99. 99
    Randy Says:

    Beethoven’s favorite album was Slippery When Wet by Bon Jovi.

  100. 100
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Yeah, because he was deaf.

  101. 101
    knarf Says:

    could be 2-k-8?
    or how about two ought eight?
    Just trying to help

  102. 102
    spike Says:

    I miscounted “sorry”
    as a monosyllable
    not 2008.

  103. 103
    Stu Says:

    Oh. I assumed you
    Were right, I was missing it.
    Best guess: “Two-Ooh-Eight”

  104. 104
    csg Says:

    espn is showing us facing

    Kendrick, Hamels, and Halladay in the final series

    Im sure that will get altered a bit

  105. 105
    Rusty S. Says:


  106. 106
    Mac Thomason Says:

    No way in Hell Halladay pitches on Sunday. He might pitch in relief Friday or Saturday for an inning to stay sharp.

  107. 107
    csg Says:

    well they also show us starting Beachy on friday

  108. 108
    LetTheWookieWin Says:

    I just saw the Gaslight Anthem in Cleveland last Thursday. It’s not a bad town to swing through, but not worth staying. I was able to see the E Street Band there twice, so I have good memories of Cleveland.

    The Springsteen exhibit that has been at the Hall for awhile is truly incredible. The Strummer one a few years back was pretty overwhelming too. It’s a nice building, right on the Lake. Might as well let it be.

  109. 109
    Smitty Says:

    I thought Clevland was ok. They had a cool local market there.

  110. 110
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I just finished tomorrow’s game thread (yes, and actual game thread) and MAN is it over-the-top. I blame my collaborator.

  111. 111
    ububba Says:

    I can imagine he may not be in the best of moods these days.

  112. 112
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I don’t mind the idea of a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, cheesy as the concept is. I used to eat up all those Top 50, Top 100, Top 500 lists, too. As long as you can accept the fact that they’ll pretty much always be wrong, it’s a fun conversation-starter.

    I hope they induct Alice Cooper.

  113. 113
    spike Says:

    I’m just glad Auburn gets a break this week. There’s going to be a bunch of movement in the Top 10 Sunday.

  114. 114
    Randy Says:

    Alex, I heartily second Alice Cooper for induction, but I hope it’s the band not just Vince (Alice). Those first few albums were killers (pun intended)!

  115. 115
    ububba Says:

    Hearing “School’s Out” on the radio on the last day of school… nothing like it.

  116. 116
    Stu Says:

    I’d guess that the guest
    Collaborator now goes
    By “FUWren,” here.

  117. 117
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Probably not.

  118. 118
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Lines form on my face
    and hands; lines form on the ups
    and downs. I’m eighteen!

  119. 119
    Robert Says:

    There’s going to be a bunch of movement in the Top 10 Sunday.

    At least two playoff games this weekend, Florida-Alabama and Stanford-Oregon. Although the loser of that first one may still get a shot at the championship through the loser’s bracket. Much bigger games than if there were a 16 team catchall waiting at the end of the season.

    Stanford-Oregon is a fascinating match up. I’ve seen them both play a lot this year and I’m really not sure what going to happen. Great game.

  120. 120
    Randy Says:

    I’m your Yankee Doodle Dandy in a gold Rolls Royce
    I want to be ELECTED!


  121. 121
    spike Says:

    Texas -Oklahoma could go either way too.

  122. 122
    Mac Thomason Says:

    There may not be much actual movement, barring an upset of Oklahoma by Texas (or some other top team going down unexpectedly). If Stanford beats Oregon, the two teams will likely just change places, and probably the same if Florida beats Alabama. If Alabama destroys Florida, the Gators would probably plummet, but if the game’s close they wouldn’t lose much ground, just as Arkansas didn’t.

  123. 123
    Robert Says:

    Texas-Oklahoma could go either way too.

    It will be interesting to see how Texas responds to having their pants pulled down in their house by a pedestrian UCLA team. Rally together or fold. Not that Oklahoma is that great either. They did everything they could do to lose that game to Cincinnati and the Bearcats just kept giving it back.

    It’s easy to say the Oregon could just out-athlete Stanford and run them off the field like they usually do and eventually did to Tennessee. But I don’t trust that quarterback at all and their defense is even softer than usual. Stanford is solid, tough, well coached, and most important has an All-American under center. I could see this game being close or being a blowout either way. Best kind of game to watch.

  124. 124
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Yeah, and if UCLA is pedestrian, Cincinnati is dragging itself down the street with its chin.

    Oregon can’t stop anyone, they just count on them to stop themselves. Don’t see Stanford doing that.

  125. 125
    Robert Says:

    A lot of respect from Stark in that article linked in #95:

    The Greatest Manager of His Generation was staring into his iPhone one day last week, hunting for that magic app that miraculously tells him the weather forecast.

    Strong words considering the careers some of his contemporaries have complied (LaRussa, Torre, Leyland).

  126. 126
    Mac Thomason Says:

    EOF’s mono has apparently flared up again and he’s having dizzy spells. Hell, who isn’t?

  127. 127
    Robert Says:

    Also notice in that Stark article that Bobby is sitting on 1,999 losses. It would be tremendous if that could be his final total.

  128. 128
    ububba Says:

    Rankings are fine. But determining Division 1 football champions from them, as it’s currently done, is plain stupid.

  129. 129
    spike Says:

    Oh sure. But it’s the only game in town.

  130. 130
    mr.swings@everything Says:


    And just as sparsely attended! Sometimes it’s embarassing to be a Braves fan.

  131. 131
    Jeremy Says:

    Infante – 4
    Heyward – 9
    McCann – 2
    Lee – 3
    Cabrera – 7
    Gonzalez – 6
    Conrad – 5
    Ankiel – 8
    Hudson – 1

    That’s ugly.

  132. 132
    Jeremy Says:

    Since July 29, Melky is hitting 229/296/333.

  133. 133
    Nick Says:

    Random Braves Live aside: How stupid is it that they have a split screen with Jerome Jurenovich in one box and Fred Hickman/Ron Gant in the other box when Jurenovich is standing like 10 feet to their right? They can’t pull up a third freaking chair?

    EDIT: And they now do pull up a third chair for Bill Shanks. I guess Jerome smells bad or something.

  134. 134
    Stu Says:

    He can’t smell any
    Worse than Shanks, who knows nothing
    About anything.

  135. 135
    Grst Says:

    The number of empty seats in Atlanta, not just during the final home series of a tight playoff race, but of Bobby Cox’s career, is absolutely embarrassing. I’d have thought we’ve been out of the playoffs long enough that area fans would be a bit less lethargic about the whole thing.

  136. 136
    Robert Says:

    Bad call. We’ll take it.

  137. 137
    Brian J. Says:

    Well done, Tim!

  138. 138
    Nick Says:

    I’m pretty sure that’s the first time I’ve seen someone called out on a pickoff attempt when he was actually safe. Normally, it’s the other way around.

  139. 139
    Brian J. Says:

    Error on the pickoff attempt. Isn’t their our job?

    Edit: And Lee does what he does best- stand there like a statue as strike three crosses the plate.

  140. 140
    Robert Says:

    If only he could have kept the inning alive for Melky.

  141. 141
    Nick Says:

    Not sure why they gave the error to Anibal Sanchez there. He threw it right at Gaby Sanchez and it hit him right in the glove.

  142. 142
    Stu Says:

    Brooks is the worst at
    Throwing from third to first that
    I have ever seen.

  143. 143
    Brian J. Says:

    Should Cox move Infante to third and Conrad to second?

  144. 144
    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    not a good time to be monkeying with key infield positions. The less moves the better. Relax, by the time the WS is here, conrad will have enough reps that he will be smooth like butter.

  145. 145
    Stu Says:

    That ball, “driven a
    Long way to right,” didn’t go
    300 feet. Sigh.

  146. 146
    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    btw, chip just previewed the next inning by saying, ‘the heart of the atlanta order due up next’ I might have picked a different body part to describe melky, AAG and the Folk hero

  147. 147
    Brian J. Says:

    144- Bit late for that. Injuries have screwed with it already.

    146- I take it that you meant the colon? Or maybe the appendix, red and inflamed and ready to burst?

  148. 148
    Robert Says:

    So Evans can’t keep it in his pants so now Georgia is going retreat back into their shell? Bummer

  149. 149
    Robert Says:

    Ahhh…the old ‘swing at ball four double play’. I think we all saw that one coming.

  150. 150
    Brian J. Says:

    Oh joy. Runner on base + 3-0 count = two outs.

  151. 151
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I have an idea for a promotion for next season. The Delta Bermuda Triangle Inning. They can award miles for runners stranded (especially in scoring position) and for getting them erased via double play, caught stealing, and Snitkeration.

    On second thought, that would probably bankrupt the airline.

  152. 152
    Robert Says:

    Oh boy…folks are not going to like that.

  153. 153
    Kristen Says:

    Watching Melky get chased down like that reminded me of rule number one here:

  154. 154
    Grst Says:

    Hudson’s reaction says it all.

  155. 155
    Nick H Says:

    Hahahaha Melky… wow. This is going on his lowlight reel for the year. He’s compiled quite a lot of footage so far.

  156. 156
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Hey, Hudson just did the “That’s Our Melky!” Face!

  157. 157
    Stu Says:

    Hudson’s reaction
    To Melky’s Melkiness: Best
    Moment of the year.

  158. 158
    Brian J. Says:

    153- And this performance is reminding me of rule #4. It’s going to be a bumpy five games.

    Edit: Wow, three infield singles in three innings.

    Edit: And four. Good God.

  159. 159
    John Gaines Says:

    It appears to me
    That Melky’s face is as fat
    As it is stupid.

  160. 160
    Nick H Says:

    Looks like the Braves might need to score more than 2 runs if they want to win today…

  161. 161
    Kevin Frace Says:

    Not watching (but for Gamecast), but how in the world are they getting all these infield hits? 4 of 5 hits are “infield” hits.

  162. 162
    Robert Says:

    Slow rollers to the left side of the infield mostly.

  163. 163
    Stu Says:

    His incompetence
    Is exceeded only by
    My hatred of him.

  164. 164
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Prado is done for the year. Torn oblique.

  165. 165
    Robert Says:

    What Mac said. Great year for Prado though

  166. 166
    ryan c Says:

    man, phils get healthy for postseason and we break down.

  167. 167
    Nick H Says:

    News just broke that Prado’s injury will have him out for 2 months. Of course, Jurrjens very well may be out too. Ugh. Even if we win the WC, we would be fielding a shadow of our team.

  168. 168
    Stu Says:

    Anybody here
    Seen my old friend, Marteen? Can
    You tell me where he’s gone?

    Yes, that last line has six syllables. And this isn’t a haiku. I don’t care. We’re done.

  169. 169
    Brian J. Says:

    Can’t we bring in Wes Timmons or someone vaguely competent to play 2B/ 3B?

  170. 170
    jdpeace Says:

    I hate Mike Stanton’s son Mike Stanton.

  171. 171
    Nick H Says:

    Let’s see if Brad Davis can hit another one to Melky here…

  172. 172
    Stu Says:

    One wonders what would
    Have become of Martin with
    Some rest for his groin.

  173. 173
    Robert Says:

    2-3-4. Need to make something happen this inning. Preferably something good.

  174. 174
    Mac Thomason Says:

    The Marlins picked the Guy Who Stole Mike Stanton’s Name two picks ahead of where the Braves took Freddie Freeman. Both were listed as first basemen at the time, both from California. It was also seven picks behind where the Braves blew a pick on Josh Fields, whom they couldn’t sign. Freeman might have been a backup pick for both teams (as in, if Stanton hadn’t been there at pick 76, the Braves might have taken Freeman, and if Stanton had been there at pick 78, the Braves would have taken him instead of Freeman) but that’s just speculation on my part.

  175. 175
    jdpeace Says:

    Three teams into two berths equals drama (headline on

    That sounds dirty to everyone, doesn’t it? Like a viral video friends would force you to watch.

  176. 176
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I think that the torn oblique was a sudden impact injury and that rest wouldn’t have prevented it.

  177. 177
    Remy Says:

    Does Prado finish above .300?

  178. 178
    John Gaines Says:


  179. 179
    Tony Says:

    Martin is proving to be injury proned, JJ is out of shape, Medlen is out until 2012, Hudson is no Halladay….man I want to be positive about next year, but……Oh and about the WC this year, what’s the point?

  180. 180
    Remy Says:

    Thanks, John.

  181. 181
    Stu Says:

    Right, but he’d not have
    Been on the field to suffer
    Said sudden impact.

    Also, I wonder
    If the tear didn’t happen
    Until that rough swing.

  182. 182
    Brian J. Says:

    173- That was more than I expected, to be honest.

  183. 183
    Robert Says:


    2008: .320/.377/.461 121 OPS+
    2009: .307/.358/.464 117 OPS+
    2010: .307/.350/.459 118 OPS+

    I think we’ve established his level.

  184. 184
    NickC Says:

    Good work from Lee in clearing Melky.

  185. 185
    ryan c Says:

    finish this sentence:

    a walk in front of melky is as useless as…

  186. 186
    Mac Thomason Says:

    What if Chipper had taken the day off when he hurt his knee? What if Heyward had slid foot-first? What if Melky could say “No” to thirds?

  187. 187
    Mac Thomason Says:

    A 34-inch belt is for Melky.

  188. 188
    jdpeace Says:

    I want to start a band called Melky where everyone is morbidly obese and plays badly.

  189. 189
    John Gaines Says:

    Good grief…

    Like this line-up is already bad enough with out his Melkiness in the 5th spot. Why the hell isn’t Louth or Hinske in his spot instead?

  190. 190
    Robert Says:

    If I knew more about music, I’d make the obvious joke:

    That band already exists it’s called…

  191. 191
    Kevin Frace Says:

    …as useless as having Melky on your roster to begin with?

  192. 192
    Brian J. Says:

    190- Nickelback? System of a Down?

  193. 193
    Stu Says:

    It seems plausible to me that Martin, who should’ve been forced to sit and heal, tore the muscle on a swing made funny by trying to compensate for other injuries.

    But, I’m not a doctor. Anybody who’s actually qualified to diagnose injuries have any thoughts?

  194. 194
    Robert Says:

    #189 – Not to be difficult but we all realize he’s the only one to actually get a hit right?

    And yeah, I know he gave it back in the field.

  195. 195
    Kevin Frace Says:

    Yes, John. Hinske. I remember him. He did quite well.

  196. 196
    Adam M Says:

    Shouldn’t we try Glaus at 3B? It’s also baffling that McLouth isn’t playing tonight.

  197. 197
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Resolved: In honor of Martin Prado’s injury, what was known as a “Prado” shall now be known as a “Melky”.

  198. 198
    jdpeace Says:

    It really feels like the season is over when someone has to type “Shouldn’t we try Glaus at 3B?”

  199. 199
    jdpeace Says:

    @197 Be careful Mac. There may be a new horrifying disease that will need a name.

  200. 200
    Adam M Says:

    Well it’s hard to win when you lose two of your four best hitters. And two of your starters. And you keep playing your worst player for no reason.

  201. 201
    jdpeace Says:

    Is it too late to get everyone on board with calling AIDS Melky. He just found out he has Melky, he’s really devastated.

  202. 202
    Kevin Frace Says:

    I haven’t seen much written about Pendleton’s efforts, seeing as hitting lately has been quite sub-par. Also, does anyone know if Pendleton is still a candidate for manager?

  203. 203
    Stu Says:

    201—I believe most states would classify said renaming as a hate crime.

  204. 204
    jdpeace Says:

    True. When people found out you had Melky you’d have to live with a real stigma.

  205. 205
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Or a disgusting parasite, maybe. Possibly a tick. “Ma’am, I’m afraid your son was bitten by a Melky, but we were able to remove it.”

  206. 206
    Brian J. Says:

    “Your Melky levels are appallingly high. You have six months, if you’re careful, but there is no known cure.”

  207. 207
    Smitty Says:

    The All-Bobby is Nuts line up

    2B- Kieth Lockhart
    SS- Ozzie Gullen
    3B – Vinny Castilla
    1B- Robert Fick
    LF- Brian Jordan (old)
    RF- Raul Mondesi
    CF- Melky
    C -Corky
    SP- Albie Lopez

  208. 208
    kc Says:

    Just looked at the box score…saw Melky batting fifth…ready to throw up.

  209. 209
    Brian J. Says:

    Smitty, the 1B should be Scott Thorman and the starter Mark Redman.

  210. 210
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I guess you didn’t see his play in left field earlier, or you would have already thrown up.

  211. 211
    Smitty Says:


    Don’t see how you blame TP. Only two opening day starters are in the line up tonight.

  212. 212
    Smitty Says:

    Snitker is a loon

  213. 213
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Brian Snitker, Coldplay Fans and Gentlemen!

  214. 214
    Jeremy Says:

    What is Snitker thinking?

  215. 215
    joelk Says:

    WTF!!!! Even I knew from home he wasn’t going to make it!!!

  216. 216
    Brian J. Says:

    Snitkering a wild card away…

  217. 217
    ryan c Says:

    snitker had no choice. melky was on deck.

  218. 218
    Smitty Says:

    Well Melky was on deck, better odds that the Marlins throw the ball in the stands

  219. 219
    Dix Says:

    That was horrible.

  220. 220
    Weldon Says:

    Burns’ Baseball is starting its section on the Braves. It’s already featured the Allman Brothers and Skip’s voice – why would you be watching the actual game right now?

  221. 221
    Adam M Says:

    Eyes… not believing… so many awful things at once…

  222. 222
    kc Says:

    Just our luck. Jason would have scored on that?

    Blame it on Bobby, it is him who put Melky at the fifth spot.

  223. 223
    LetTheWookieWin Says:

    But he was only out by…25 feet.

  224. 224
    jdpeace Says:

    Ohhhh Snitker. It’s like Springsteen playing Thunder Road in concert. You’d feel cheated if you didn’t see it.

  225. 225
    csg Says:

    was it even close?

  226. 226
    Mac Thomason Says:

    No. It was not. The cutoff man had it before McCann rounded third. They had a better chance hoping for a balk or a wild pitch or even Melky getting a bloop hit, though the last would be pretty remarkable.

  227. 227
    Smitty Says:


    You are closer to home plate than McCann was

  228. 228
    Jeremy Says:

    Chip and Joe are idiots. Uggla double clutched, threw high and up the line and McCann was still out by 8 miles.

  229. 229
    NickC Says:

    Heyward has to start forcing the issue and trying to steal in front of McCann when he gets on.

  230. 230
    csg Says:

    13IP of 2ER baseball from out two starters and neither one will get a win, says it all

  231. 231
    kc Says:

    If we somehow make it to the playoff, people would laught at our lineup. I still don’t understand why Bobby would just refuse to try Troy for once.

  232. 232
    Brian J. Says:

    Maybe he’s seen Troy practicing, and the results justify never playing him at third?

  233. 233
    Jeremy Says:

    “Say cheese.” – Chip Caray

  234. 234
    urlhix Says:

    The best thing in the GaMHOF is a copy of Playboy owned by Ronnie Milsap.

    C’mon boys, it’s time for the blind squirrel to find a nut. Go Braves.

  235. 235
    kc Says:

    @228 I guess even Uggla couldn’t believe McCann was going!!!

  236. 236
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Tomorrow, Melky will try to eat an entire Subway footlong turkey sub before McCann can make it from 1st to 3rd. My money’s on Melky.

  237. 237
    Smitty Says:

    Melky’s going yard

  238. 238
    Adam M Says:

    That Just Happened.

  239. 239
    Jeremy Says:

    He still sucks.

  240. 240
    kc Says:

    I am very comfortable with next year’s bullpen starting with Venters and Kimbrel. Wag, please play one more year!!!

  241. 241
    Nick Says:

    AAG can bunt. Who knew?

  242. 242
    Smitty Says:

    Folk hero?

  243. 243
    Smitty Says:


  244. 244
    csg Says:

    dont like giving away outs this late in the game at home

  245. 245
    NickC Says:

    I love that man.

  246. 246
    Brian J. Says:

    FOLK HERO!!!!

  247. 247
    csg Says:

    yes i do, nevermind

  248. 248
    kc Says:

    @238 Yeap, that’s our luck!

  249. 249
    Smitty Says:

    Hey, an injured player that’s not a Brave

  250. 250
    ryan c Says:

    i love brooks.

  251. 251
    kc Says:

    Brooks, you have to love him.

  252. 252
    Tomas Says:

    It’s good when Conrad looks up and checks it’s the 7th inning or later.

  253. 253
    Adam M Says:

    That looked bad.

  254. 254
    kc Says:

    With our luck Ankiel would be striked out.

  255. 255
    James Says:


  256. 256
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Brooks Conrad, folk hero, has 34 hits this year. 19 are for extra bases (11 2B 1 3B 7 HR).

  257. 257
    csg Says:

    who’s injured?

  258. 258
    c. shorter Says:

    watching the game and the ken burns doc. They’re on the ’96 series. ugh.

  259. 259
    kc Says:

    @253 What happened?

  260. 260
    Jeremy Says:

    Looked like Maybin might have torn a knee ligament.

  261. 261
    James Says:

    If Ankiel hadn’t swung at that it might have hit him.

  262. 262
    Adam M Says:

    Maybin hit the wall on the Conrad triple and had to be carted off.

    Also, Ankiel’s k. That too was ugly.

  263. 263
    csg Says:

    absolutely awful from Ankiel there

  264. 264
    Brian J. Says:

    254- I’d say you jinxed us, but I’m sure that would have happened anyway.

  265. 265
    braves14 Says:

    That Ankiel strikeout was inevitable.

  266. 266
    NickC Says:

    Ankiel looked awful and to be honest has no business being in any game with Tim Hudson pitching. We don’t need a marginally better defensive center fielder that much.

  267. 267
    Smitty Says:

    He should be starting

  268. 268
    Jeremy Says:


  269. 269
    braves14 Says:


  270. 270
    Remy Says:


  271. 271
    c. shorter Says:

    a winner! heh heh

  272. 272
    Brian J. Says:

    ERIC! Now let’s hold the lead by not bringing in Venters, Bobby. Please.

  273. 273
    James Says:

    Hinske knew that was gone.

  274. 274
    urlhix Says:


  275. 275
    kc Says:

    @264 Even my two years old son knew that was coming!

  276. 276
    Smitty Says:

    Hinske for left fielder!

  277. 277
    Tomas Says:

    That works for me.

  278. 278
    csg Says:

    that Hinske reaction was awesome

  279. 279
    NickC Says:

    So, which abused pitcher tries to get through the 8th?

  280. 280
    ryan c Says:


  281. 281
    Mark Says:


    Plus, I love it because his play in May-June is one of the reasons we are here right now.

  282. 282
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Move Conrad to second and play Hinske at third. F defense!

  283. 283
    Nick Says:

    I think Sanchez might have been upset with that. He convulsed so hard his hat flew off.

  284. 284
    Smitty Says:


    I agree, I loved it!

  285. 285
    Tony Says:

    I just turned turned to the baseball network…JUST IN TIME TO SEE HINSKE’s HOMER. So I guess it’s me.

  286. 286
    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    Listening to chip’s call, I was sure that would make the warning track at least.

  287. 287
    kc Says:

    Hinske off the bench is awesome.

  288. 288
    Smitty Says:

    and all of the sudden the Braves have a pulse

  289. 289
    NickC Says:

    Chip, give it a rest. Omar lost the batting title by not hitting for 2 weeks. He’s miles behind now.

  290. 290
    Tony Says:

    Lol…NICK. I was thinking the exact same thing.

  291. 291
    kc Says:

    Keep bringing in Conrad and Hinske off the bench for late-innings. F— the early innings, ha.

  292. 292
    kc Says:

    It is inevitable. Venters is coming in next, right?

  293. 293
    Jeremy Says:

    As bad as the team has played the last 30 days, our announcers are infinitely worse.

  294. 294
    Smitty Says:

    Hey guys, we are winning. Let’s enjoy it

  295. 295
    Tony Says:

    Wow…Chip is really bad. Lol…..

  296. 296
    kc Says:

    @295 That’s not new. We should make Smoltzie/Glav full time.

  297. 297
    Troy Says:

    I do agree with Joe though about the headfirst slides. Great for Infante to steal there, but the last thing we need is for him to go down this last week.

  298. 298
    Mac Thomason Says:

    No, it’s Moylan. So it’s a right arm we’re going to see fly off.

  299. 299
    Brian J. Says:

    Argh. Good thing Hinske homered.

  300. 300
    Jeremy Says:

    Joe was fine with Boog. But Chip’s stupidity has rubbed off on him.

  301. 301
    Grst Says:

    That wasn’t a bad pitch.

  302. 302
    urlhix Says:

    Yeah, why is Moylan on the F’n mound?

  303. 303
    Smitty Says:

    Uggla hit a good pitch

  304. 304
    Jeremy Says:

    It’s Venters.

  305. 305
    Jeremy Says:

    Did I see Farnsworth up in the bullpen?

  306. 306
    James Says:

    I see Bobby’s going trying to get a 2 for 1 special with regards to arms falling off.

  307. 307
    Brian J. Says:

    We survived the Venters appearance. Now c’mon, Wags!

  308. 308
    urlhix Says:


  309. 309
    Smitty Says:

    Id like to score 8 here and give Wagner the day off

  310. 310
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Bobby’s favorite superhero.

  311. 311
    Smitty Says:


    His alter ego is Greg McMichael

  312. 312
    braves14 Says:

    Doctor to patient: “Sorry, I have bad news. Your long-term outlook is Melky.”

  313. 313
    braves14 Says:

    Not a good idea to walk Bonafacio.

  314. 314
    c. shorter Says:

    braves win!

  315. 315
    Brian J. Says:


  316. 316
    Smitty Says:


  317. 317
    Jeremy Says:

    Chip: Billy Wagner’s 421st save of the season.

  318. 318
    Johnny Says:

    What a game. Resilient

  319. 319
    Randy Says:

    Woo–Hoo! Wild-Card Fever!

  320. 320
    NickC Says:

    Phillies notes: Roy Oswalt went only 5 innings and 66 pitches before being taken out.

    I’m guessing Hamels and Halladay go even less.

  321. 321
    Adam R Says:

    I flipped over just in time to see Francoeur face Felix Hernandez. Talk about unfair. It was over before you could say “GIDP.”

    Go Braves.

  322. 322
    JC Says:

    Phillies don’t care about Washington, but they do care about beating the Braves. The last thing they want to do is lose to a team in the NLCS that they laid down for.

  323. 323
    Johnny Says:

    Come on Cubbies!

  324. 324
    Tomas Says:

    Let’s go Cubbies and D-Backs!

  325. 325
    Parish Says:

    I think I could see that replay about 12 more times tonight and it wouldn’t be enough.

    Go Cubs!

  326. 326
    Brian J. Says:

    Yankees win, Rays win, and Red Sox out of the AL playoffs. It’ll be Yanks/ Rays/ Twins/ Rangers, matchups TBD.

  327. 327
    Mac Thomason Says:


  328. 328
    Hate King Says:

    Latos going for the Pads tonight. Dempster for the Cubs.

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