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02 Oct

Phillies 7, Braves done

Philadelphia Phillies vs. Atlanta Braves – Box Score – October 02, 2010 – ESPN.

Look, right now this team doesn’t belong in postseason. It’s nobody’s fault — except Melky‘s, of course — but ever since Chipper went down they haven’t had enough to win, and when Prado first started to lose effectiveness due to injury and then followed Chipper to the shelf, that was just the nail in the coffin. This is a really fine pitching staff attached to an offense and defense that can’t give it a modicum of support.

Case in point, Tommy Hanson, who only went five innings today — five, valiant, shutout innings — because his infield has the range of a tribe of three-legged sloths. He was charged with six hits, none of which was hit particularly hard except for a double by Jimmy Rollins leading off the fifth. He walked only two and struck out six, getting big strikeout after big strikeout, and ends his season with a 3.33 ERA and a losing record because of the aforementioned lack of support.

Jonny Venters pitched around a mess in the sixth, and should have done the same in the seventh, but Brooks Conrad threw away a double play ball, and then the Phillies got — I lost count, but I think it was 758 singles through the infield in a row. That seems unlikely, as they got only four runs, but that was more than enough. It was more than the Braves had hits. I won’t even recap the offensive shenanigans.

488 Responses to “Phillies 7, Braves done”

  1. 1
    Tom Says:

    As pathetic as today’s game was, I am very positive that the Braves will win tommorrow and the Padres will lose. It can’t all go wrong three out of three times, can it?

    EDIT: I have said three weeks ago that this team does not belong in the postseason, and if they should indeed blow it, then so be it. They wouldn’t win a single game against the Phillies anyway (should they get to the NLCS, which in all likeliness they would not).

    Would have been nice for Bobby though.

  2. 2
    Adam M Says:

    It’s hard to overstate just how awful the team has been these past two games.

    I agree completely about the infield. Last night the outfield was in on the fun–but today the infield just looked horrendous. And it’s not just about the errors. The middle infielders always seem to be a step too slow. I truly, truly miss the Escobar-Prado duo from the first half.

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    Adam M Says:

    Also… today Vance Worley started. The Braves finished with three hits. They had almost as many errors as they did hits.

    Vance. Worley.

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    Bethany Says:

    When they make an Eleventh Inning documentary, they will discuss this collapse.

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    Marc Says:

    I was reading elsewhere that the G-Braves lit up Worley earlier this year. We should have run that lineup out there.

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    BFedRec Says:

    My Mets fan friend has warned me I can’t call the Mets chokers if we blow this… though I rarely call Mets chokers, just call them crap.

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    jj3bagger Says:

    Hope Huddy brings his A game tomorrow and the Phillies give up.

    That TD catch AJ Green had was just crazy.

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    jdpeace Says:

    TBS is apparently showing a Yankees v. Red Sox game tomorrow. Conan not withstanding I’d like to go back to Gomer Pile, Andy Griffith, a little Dusty Rhodes, and then BRAVES GAME!!

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    Randy Says:

    Yes, these last two days were very disappointing, but not unbelievable. Still, we need to look on the bright side. We have the following going for us. 1) We’re alive for a playoff spot on the last day of the season—something I didn’t believe this team could say on opening day, or even after last Sunday. 2) I know there is no statistical evidence that you can’t argue against on a one-game basis, but still we would have to lose three straight at home, while the Padres would have to win three straight on the road. 3) Tim Hudson is pitching for us, he’s our ace, he’s the guy you want to take the ball in the biggest game of the year. Let’s bring it on, I’ll say Braves win, Padres lose, we go (meekly) to the postseason.

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    OneEye Says:

    A Braves win and they are in, so that is something…

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    In honor of Melky, I am making a half-size pan of lasagna all of which I will eat myself.

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    D.N. Nation Says:

    We don’t deserve it, but the Vagiants don’t deserve it either. Friggin dogs.

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    jdpeace Says:

    @11 A fitting tribute. I will be eating a paint bucket of bacon and being a disappointment to my children.

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    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    It’s been clear for a month that this team is not a championship quality team. The only reason you guys are still watching rather than rightly discussing potential off-season moves is because of the abhorrent Wild Card crap.

    This team is not a championship quality team. This team has no business competing for a “World Championship.” Now granted, neither do the Padres really, but that’s neither here nor there.

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    Dan Says:

    What makes anyone think the Braves will score one run off Hamels tomorrow?

    It’s over. They blew a two game lead in two days flat.

  16. 16
    Adam R Says:

    Someone make me feel better and ascribe a non-zero percentage to our chances of unloading Lowe, in light of his improvement this year, in the off-season.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Alabama is cheering me up.

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    Seat Painter Says:

    There’s a non-zero chance we unload Lowe’s salary this off-season. I mean, he could retire, Omar Minaya might still be the Mets GM, or Lowe could get some decent infielders behind him and actually be almost worth his salary…..

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    Seat Painter Says:

    And Mac, Tennessee lost on an incredible brain fart as well.

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    Guillermo Says:


    The giants are on the same boat and the reds pitching sucks.

    We’ve been on the other side too many times to know that weird things happen in a short series. The problem is getting there.

    Maybe losing Prado was the last straw, but there is still hope. I really wish one last playoff runaround for Bobby.

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    Jeremy Says:

    Outside of Lee, Wren’s acquisitions this season haven’t exactly worked out.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Good lasagna, BTW.

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    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    I’m perfectly aware of the “just get in and anything can happen” theory. I know the Braves could win tomorrow, make the playoffs, and run the table for an unlikely World Series win. I know all of that.

    That doesn’t change the fact that this is not a championship quality team and they have no right whatsoever playing for title “world champions.” They’re just not good enough.

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    csg Says:

    Hamels is only pitching two IP tomorrow and Oswalt will only pitch one. Have the Braves been swept at home all season? I really think the Giants at least win one at home tomorrow too.

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    Robert Says:

    Sweetest blackout ever today.

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    Marc Schneider Says:

    I just had a bad feeling this would happen. But, Sam, stop telling people how they should feel. If you think the wild card is “abhorrent”so be it but don’t presume to criticize others for rooting for their team. No this is not a championship team but they won 90 games which in some years would have won the division.

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    FlaBravesFan Says:

    I have enough hope left for one more day, after that, screw it, Football and Basketball season are here……

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    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    I haven’t told you how to feel. I’ve stated the facts.

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    Jeremy Says:


    Neither were the ’06 Cardinals.

    Professional sports determine their champion via a playoff system. Qualifying for said playoff as a wild card is legitimate in the year 2010. And you don’t get bonus points for playing well in September, otherwise lets let the Orioles in.

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    RobBroad4th Says:

    Can you imagine having a healthy Chipper, Prado, Jurrjens, and Medlen right about now? What crappy luck.

    I have a feeling we’re going to see a one-game playoff.

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    RobBroad4th Says:

    Speaking of teams that aren’t good enough making a run at the World Series, my Dad swears up and down that the Braves had a better team in the 1991 and 1996 World Series than the Twins and Yankees respectively. I’m curious to hear other thoughts on that.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Oh, yes, no question. The Twins basically had to cheat to win in 1991, and the Yankees were incredibly fortunate in 1996.

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    Jeremy Says:

    Georgia loses at Colorado. Embarrassing.

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    csg Says:

    i dont know why anyone hates the wildcard

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    Tiger224 Says:

    I love the Braves. And I love Bobby Cox.

    But this team is not a playoff worthy team. And I’m glad to see a change at the helm in the very near future.

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    jj3bagger Says:

    Holy shit, my Colorado Golden Buffaloes pulled it off. Rough day if you’re a Braves fan and a UGA fan. I wonder who in here I could be referring to ?

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Were my eyes fooling me, or was Georgia trying for a flea-flicker on the key fumble?

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    Marc Schneider Says:

    If Liberty really wanted to do everything to win they would Jason Werth after the season. It would add a piece the Braves need and subtract from the main rival. But we know that isn’t going to happen because the only teams that will do things like that are the Yankees and Red Sox. This year wouldn’t bother me as much if I knew the Braves were going to get better.

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    csg Says:

    does Timmons have a good glove at 3rd?

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Mac’s Arbitrary Top Ten:

    1. Alabama, by a lot
    2. Oregon
    3. Ohio State
    4. TCU
    5. Nebraska
    6. Boise
    7. Oklahoma
    8. Arkansas
    9. Auburn
    10. Utah

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    Bethany Says:

    Kudos to Alabama for continuing their dominance from last season and managing to look even better than they did in 09! If not for them, it’d be a very sad year in college football. Does anyone have any theories on the diminishing number of elite teams?

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    It’s just cyclical. Texas and Florida were heavily dependent upon their quarterbacks, who graduated and took a lot of people with them. USC is on probation and has a new coach. Those are the three dominant programs of the last decade right there.

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    Jeremy Says:

    There are elite teams this year, they’re just not the names you’re used to. Oregon is very explosive on offense; Ohio St didn’t play great today but those games will happen; TCU, Nebraska, Boise. I’d actually put Iowa in the top 10.

    It is remarkable how quickly Saban turned Alabama into a dominate program.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    I had Iowa in the top ten earlier this year and they then immediately lost.

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    urlhix Says:

    @30 If we just had a healthy Prado we would already be in.

    Oh well, to quote the immortal Paul Crik,
    “This is It, Fuck It, It Is What It Is.”

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    I’m an Alabama fan, but the reason they’re #1 is simple — they’re the most complete team, even if their defense has sometimes looked shaky. Oregon’s allowed 31 points each of the last two weeks. As we saw today, Ohio State is one hit on Terrelle Pryor away from turning into Texas. TCU and Boise look good, but it’s really impossible to tell considering the level of competition — and actually, that’s true of Nebraska, too. Oklahoma almost lost to Cincinnati.

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    Jeremy Says:

    Ohio St is the clear #2 to me. They kicked Oregon’s ass in the Rose Bowl last year, and I don’t see much changing. Problem is, they have to play at Iowa, which is no picnic. A loss there and the door is wide open for Boise to get a title game bid. Though if TCU runs the table, which would include a win at Utah, they could leapfrog Boise.

  48. 48
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I went back and forth on Oregon and OSU, but ultimately I decided that Oregon was less fragile. I’m not fond of teams that rely upon one player too much.

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    spike Says:

    Auburn should be in at #8 this week. I know, they ain’t all that, but hope springs eternal.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Holtz has Auburn #5, which… okay. I wouldn’t be surprised if they started 11-0. The toughest team they have left before playing Alabama is Arkansas, and they have a chance there, playing at home. Then it’s LSU, and LSU is just the sort of self-destructive team they’ve been beating.

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    Bethany Says:

    Auburn is frustrating because if they don’t beat themselves, they will be a good team, especially considering what a down year it is. But even then I’m not sure they beat Alabama, and it’s one of the dumbest group of players I’ve ever seen on the field. Stupid penalties, bad decisions, fumbles… I still think Auburn loses 3 games, easy.

  52. 52
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Have you seen LSU play, Bethany? They’re like a group of fourth graders coached by a bonobo.

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    Cary Says:

    @52, true, but LSU has “retard strength”

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    Bethany Says:

    @52 I have only seen the last series of the game today, and yes, you are right, they are less mentally capable than most.

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    drewdat Says:

    LSU has good overall talent, but they have a fatal, team-breaking flaw at QB that has gone unaddressed for quite a while now (even some of their good teams won in spite of the QB… all of them? Jamarcus Russell, unimpressive).

    Add in that their coaches make horrible decisions and constantly blow late-game situations, and they are an eminently upsettable team, especially when the coaches or media are dumb enough to let them near the top 10 (not that LSU shouldn’t be top 10 with a non-Les Miles coach and a serviceable QB).

    Didn’t get to see any of today’s game, but apparently LSU broke the huddle with more than 11 on the last play, which would have nullified Tennessee’s too many men penalty. Can’t remember if that’s presnap, but it seems like a yes, and then it seems like there’s a clock rundown on offensive penalties under two minutes. I could be mixing up NFL and college rules there, though.

  56. 56
    kc Says:

    That’s right Mac. Losing Chipper and Prado together pretty much does it for the offense. It’s tough to replace a HOFer and an All-Star within the same season.

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    Guillermo Says:

    Sam #23,

    Let me get this straight. What do you mean that they have no “right”? Are you philosophically oppossed to the wild-card or this particular braves team? I would understand the former, not the latter.

    Robbroad4th #31 Mac #32,

    91 Better than the twins, but i think the Pirates were their equal.

    Once Maddux got to Atlanta… talk about the “right” to several championships.

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    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    Obviously, the Braves are pathetic–maybe they will make Mark Richt their next manager….

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    Ron E. Says:

    I’m rooting for the Giants, Padres, and Braves to finish tied forcing 2 playoff games just because that hasn’t ever happened before. But for the Braves to carry out their end of that scenario, Hudson has to pitch a perfect game and Derrek Lee has to hit a solo homer.

    I hate the current division setup where the Braves play the Phils, Mets, Marlins, and Nats 189237491823 times a year. I’d rather do away with divisions, have balanced schedules including one series against every team in the other league, and just have the top 4 teams in each league make the playoffs with seeding based on records.

  60. 60
    Clarke Says:

    Anyone heading to the game today? I’ll be out in center with a Justice jersey on if anyone wants to grab a beer- the buddy I’m with will have Cox jersey on. Go Braves!

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    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    I abhor the Wild Card. This team has no more right calling themselves “world champions” at the end of a elimination tournament than did the ’97 Marlins.

    Actually, this team is pretty clearly worse than the ’97 Marlins, actually.

    If you think the Marlins were better than the Braves in ’97, by all means, continue to cheer for a Braves 2010 playoff run.

  62. 62
    Bethany Says:

    @61 Why argue over which team was better? The Marlins won when it mattered, so they got what they deserved,

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    hpotter Says:

    Infante moved to 3B, Brooks at 2B. Maybe one less 4 out inning today?

    Braves lineup: 1. Infante 3B, 2. Heyward RF, 3. Lee 1B, 4. McCann C, 5. Diaz LF, 6. Gonzalez SS, 7. Conrad 2B, 8. Ankiel CF, 9. Hudson P

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    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    @61 – you’ve been beating this horse for a while now. How do you feel about the height of the mound?

  65. 65
    hpotter Says:

    Phillies lineup-

    Rollins SS, Polanco 3B, Utley 2B, Howard 1B, Werth RF, Ibanez LF, Victorino CF, Ruiz C, Hamels P

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    kc Says:

    I know we are all frustrated, but this may be Bobby’s last game. Let’s just be a simple Braves fan and support our HOF manager for possibly one final time.

    Bobby, I may have issues with you on many of your decisions, but thanks for everything. I will miss seeing you in the dugout, and I will miss criticizing you even more. All the best.

  67. 67
    Coz Says:

    I’m not a fan of the WC either, Sam, but you can bet your ass I’ll be rooting for my team to win today.

    Deserves got nothing to do with it in baseball.

  68. 68
    Dan Says:

    This team does currently have the same amount of wins as the 2005 NL East division winning Braves and more wins than the 2001 Braves.

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    mr.swings@everything Says:


    What a joke. I think any playoff at all is a terrible way to crown a “champion” (win 11 games after a 162 games and now you’re the “champ”, righto) but it’s the system we have. It’s not going to ever be otherwise and if anything they’re going to add more teams to the postseason to make more money so you better get used to it. Still, this is a better discussion than talking amateur football on the last day of the season with the Braves playing an elimination game.

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    RobBroad4th Says:

    “Deserves got nothing to do with it in baseball.”


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    braves14 Says:

    At the game today. Braves haven’t lost a game I’ve been to in 5 years.

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    Bethany Says:

    I’m going to be on the treadmill while wearing my lucky Braves shirt. Do you think they will cancel each other out?

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    Adam M Says:

    I think Ankiel in CF and Diaz in LF is the best possible combination on defense we can muster–it’s almost league average.

    I’d still like to have seen Glaus at 3B, especially with a lefty on the mound, but I suppose if we are going to roll with Conrad it’s better to have him at 2B.

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    Adam M Says:

    Here’s a question: let’s say the Braves win and Padres win, and then both the Giants and Braves beat the Padres in their respective one-game playoffs. Also, let’s say the Reds win today. That would mean Cincinnati and San Francisco have the same record.

    Who would be the #2 seed? That is, who would the Braves play in the 1st round?

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    Jeremy Says:

    We’d play the Giants. They have the tiebreaker over Cincinnati.

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    Adam M Says:

    So the Reds are definitely playing the Phillies.

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    Jeremy Says:

    If we get in, yes. If the Giants or Padres win the WC, they’d play the Phillies.

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    Adam M Says:

    Ah, right.

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    JC Says:

    Once it took less then nine balls to earn a walk, baseball was ruined.

  80. 80
    Jeremy Says:

    From DOB’s Twitter:

    Manuel has told reporters Hamels will go two innings and Oswalt one. …Bobby Cox wasn’t exactly buying it. But it would be nice for ATL

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    Adam M Says:

    I’m not convinced the Braves can hit the bullpen arms anyway.

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    csg Says:

    its simple, this Braves AAAA team cant score with the Phils. Our best bet is for the Padres to lose and for us to beat them in a one game playoff.

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    Dan Says:

    I’m not convinced that anyone here couldn’t throw a minimum quality start (6 innings, 3 earned runs) against the Braves right now.

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    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    The facts of the world have not changed since I’ve been “on this” issue. Why on earth would I cease to address reality when the facts haven’t changed? Because my favorite team is the second place team trying to get in the back door this year?

    Sorry. I’m better than that.

  85. 85
    Adam R Says:

    Well, I’m sold. Is there a SamHutchesonAddressingRealityJournal blog that I can read everyday instead of this one?

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    Smitty Says:

    Omar at third Brooks at second. I like that.

    By the way, yesterday was the worst day of my life. Why can’t Dooley count to 11?

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    Askia Says:

    I look forward to the Dooley/Miles coaching matchups for as long as they last.

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    MikeM Says:

    Phils used most their best relievers yesterday, didn’t they? I wouldn’t think they would pitch any reliever on back-to-back days at this point.

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    Smitty Says:

    I hope we dont come out pressing. But we will

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    Dan Says:

    So, what’s up with Yahoo? The stories are current (“Braves move Conrad to 2B for game against Phillies”), but the game tracker says the Braves beat the Astros today 5-2 with “A. Ashby” getting the win, “W. Miller” the loss and “J. Rocker” the save.

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    Brian J. Says:

    I’ve been purposely avoiding this site since the bullpen imploded on Friday, but I figured I should be here at the wake to pay my respects.

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    Smitty Says:

    braves 14 is at the game. He is automatic.

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    Adam R Says:

    @92, Can he hit with men on base?

  94. 94
    Brian J. Says:

    Or strike out the heart of their order? (Or Ruiz, for that matter?)

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    Bethany Says:

    Bobby looks scared that this is it.

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    HawkeyeFan Says:

    Charlie Manuel is just asking for karma to bite him in the ass. You’re telling me that he couldn’t sit Utley, Howard, and Werth on the last day of the season, with homefield throughout the playoffs already wrapped up? Philly’s got every single one of their regular starters in the lineup today, and you can bet your ass Manuel won’t be pulling them. He just wants to stick it to Cox one last time. Boy, that pisses me off.

    Not that we deserve to make it into the playoffs (as per Sam), but man, I just hate Philly. Worse than the Mets or Florida. Here’s to hoping Hudson throws a 20-inning no-no, because that’s probably what it will take for us to win today. Or watch us put a 10-spot on the scoreboard in the first three innings, just to add to the irony. Either way, go Braves….let’s finish on a good note.

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    Smitty Says:

    Bobby looked like he took a valum. I don’t think we lose a game based on how our manager looks. This is actually a game I am glad we have Bobby.

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    Bethany Says:

    @96 We did this to ourselves by laying eggs against terrible teams. He has every right to play out the season and keep his players fresh.

  99. 99
    NickC Says:

    #96, don’t be silly. He just wants to make sure he does right by the Giants and Padres.

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    Dan Says:

    Would anyone bet money on this team in a best of five vs. the Washington Nationals?

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    Brian J. Says:

    97- Kind of hard to blame him.

    This is the last time.
    The last time he ever takes the lineup card to the umpire.
    The last time he cheers on Brooksy or Timmy.
    The last time he waves to the bullpen.
    The last time he tells an idiot umpire to extract his head from his ass.

    It deserves a little quiet thought, doesn’t it? No matter how much we’ve prepared for it, that last time is here.

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    Askia Says:

    We have a terrible record vs. the Nats, so no. Mets or Marlins, maybe.

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    TomL Says:

    I bet the Phillies regulars get a few at bats and Manuel starts taking them out in the 5th.

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    ryan c Says:

    freakin’ cool intro by chipper.

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    Jeremy Says:

    On the bright side, this is the last time we will be subjected to Chip Caray this year.

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    Bethany Says:

    Falcons are not off to a good start.

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    Dan Says:

    I bet the Phillies regulars get a few at bats and Manuel starts taking them out in the 5th.

    When it’s 8-0.

  108. 108
    Jeremy Says:

    Can already tell Chip is going to be extra unbearable today.

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    ryan c Says:

    good start.

  110. 110
    James Says:

    Hudson looked real good during the first inning.

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    NickC Says:

    #110, fastball was tailing, not sinking.

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    Bethany Says:

    There’s the Braves in a nutshell. Get a good count, then ground out.

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    JC Says:

    Let’s hope the Falcons are consuming the city’s bad mojo.

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    Dan Says:

    I have Dish Network and can’t watch the game. And Yahoo apparently thinks it’s the year 2000.

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    Bethany Says:

    Falcons score, uh oh. Mojo shifting.

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    Adam R Says:

    OK, Brian, time to wake up.

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    Bethany Says:

    Or, get a good count then pop out. McCann has looked done for at least two weeks now.

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    Adam M Says:

    It’s Atlanta–there’s plenty of bad mojo to go around. The Falcons will recover and the Braves will take care of business today.

    I’m trying optimism out for a change.

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    NickC Says:

    Hey, that was a good inning for this lineup recently. Didn’t go one, two, three and worked some counts!

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    timo Says:

    Don’t know about you… but I am extremely excited and a little nervous. I have no doubt that the Braves will win this one! Go Braves!

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    csg Says:

    I would just like to thank Dish Network and Fox for not allowing me to see the game today. Instead I get NHL on ice for free since they couldnt agree to terms

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    JoeyT Says:

    @121, seriously? Just keep looking online. I’m able to find Eagles games every week, even though I’m out of region. Just google around. You’ll find something.

  123. 123
    JoeyT Says:

    That over the shoulder grab reminded me of that retarded basket catch by Willie Mays Hayes.

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    timo Says:

    Huddy is dealin’!

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    csg Says:

    yep, I go to any of Fox’s broadcast on Dish Network and I get “please send an email to fox saying, give us our channels back.” Dish Network says that they will not be subject to Fox’s ridiculous price increases.

    How about – Ill just switch to Direct TV now

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    timo Says:

    Oswalt warming up…

  127. 127
    Adam M Says:

    And then the reality of the Braves lineup sets in again… optimism… hard to sustain…

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    mraver Says:

    Helluva grab by Heyward.

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    timo Says:


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    timo Says:

    That’s a good strategy…

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    JoeyT Says:

    Wow. Down 2. Already.

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    mraver Says:


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    Brian J. Says:

    Well, this wasn’t a bad season.

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    csg Says:

    oh well

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    timo Says:


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    rehabreject Says:


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    Adam M Says:

    And everyone here was worried about the Phillies’ regulars!

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    Jeremy Says:

    Hudson really isn’t pitching that well. He’s not locating at all.

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    timo Says:

    Scoring three runs seems very unlikely at this point.

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    JoeyT Says:

    1) Two runs aren’t insurmountable.
    2) If the Braves and Padres both lose, there’s still another game.

    Things look bad, though. Our odds just plummeted.

  141. 141
    Bethany Says:

    There’s the season.

  142. 142
    Mike N. Says:

    I blame Chip. “6 up, 6 down for Hudson”. One batter later, hit batter. Next batter home run.

  143. 143
    MikeM Says:

    Let’s crowdsource this:

    What should I break in anger?

    A) Chair I’m sitting on.
    B) Glass on table
    C) Victorino’s nose

  144. 144
    Dan Says:

    A 95.8% chance of making the playoffs when this series started.

  145. 145
    Askia Says:

    Problem is with ATL losing, Giants will know they are in and won’t really care about beating SD. And they weren’t able to beat SD when they did care.

  146. 146
    Brian J. Says:

    143- Chair. Less chance of collateral damage.

  147. 147
    Mark Says:

    Does every successful bunt have to be described as “a beauty”?

  148. 148
    c. shorter Says:

    Well, I was happy to see him get it down. One of the few guys on the team that I have confidence in for such a situation.

  149. 149
    timo Says:

    Oswalt’s got a big butt.

  150. 150
    Jeremy Says:

    Glavine is an infinitely better color guy than Joe, but that’s not saying much.

  151. 151
    csg Says:

    #145 – not buying that. SF wins today and its avoids the Phils in the 1st round

  152. 152
    Bethany Says:


  153. 153
    c. shorter Says:

    Well there’s a big hit.
    Well played, Mr. Heyward.

  154. 154
    timo Says:


  155. 155
    Askia Says:

    Well someone cares about going to the playoffs.

  156. 156
    Brian J. Says:

    Jason Heyward: Too good for this sinful team.

  157. 157
    ryan c Says:

    atta boy heyward!

    after ankiel scored, chip said it’s a 2-run game. man, he’s stupid.

  158. 158
    Jeremy Says:

    Heyward and Lee are the only hitters I have even a modicum of confidence in.

  159. 159
    JoeyT Says:

    I’m surprised Utley’s still out there after Ruiz was nailed.

  160. 160
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Chip just described something as a “soft fly ball.” Is that a first?

  161. 161
    mraver Says:

    Only because he didn’t follow it with “belted”.

  162. 162
    Bethany Says:

    Ok Alex. Time to atone for some of your sins.

    That was NOT a strike.

  163. 163
    JoeyT Says:

    I’m already glad Oswalt and Hamels are out.

  164. 164
    mraver Says:

    When Chip does his “Granddad” impression, it sounds like he’s just doing Will Ferrell doing Harry Caray.

  165. 165
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Does anyone else still hate Baez for how much he sucked for us down the stretch the year we got him for Betemit?

  166. 166
    Bethany Says:

    YES! Come on Braves….

  167. 167
    Brian J. Says:

    It’s time for the Folk Zero to redeem himself.

    Edit: Mission Accomplished!

  168. 168
    Bethany Says:

    YES!!!!!!!!!!! FOLK HERO!!!

  169. 169
    mraver Says:


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    JoeyT Says:

    I’m really, REALLY glad Oswalt and Hamels are out.

  171. 171
    c. shorter Says:

    game 162: folk hero redemption

  172. 172
    timo Says:

    COME ON!!!

  173. 173
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Brooks Conrad: president of the United States, or president of the universe?

  174. 174
    Brian J. Says:

    Rick Ankiel: An alternative to a good outfielder.

  175. 175
    ryan c Says:

    ankiel has struck out in 1 out of every 3 abs for the braves.

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    Bethany Says:


  177. 177
    ryan c Says:


  178. 178
    c. shorter Says:

    the 2nd pitcher in the order comes through!

  179. 179
    Nick H Says:

    There’s no way in hell we consider bringing Ankiel back next year, right? Please tell me the Braves wouldn’t do that to me.

  180. 180
    Brian J. Says:

    HUDDY!! You want a job done right, do it yourself. Then kill Melky.

    Edit: Wow, an actual, honest-to-God rally! I’d actually forgotten what those were like!

  181. 181
    Bethany Says:

    OH MY GOD!!!!!!

  182. 182
    c. shorter Says:


  183. 183
    JoeyT Says:

    This game got a lot better all of the sudden.

  184. 184
    c. shorter Says:

    179 — I sure hope not.

  185. 185
    Mark Says:

    I smell playoffs!!!

  186. 186
    timo Says:


  187. 187
    ryan c Says:

    i’m shoutin’ my pants off in my house. my dog is scared to death.

  188. 188
    Adam M Says:

    The Phillies would be well served not to let Baez pitch in the playoffs.

  189. 189
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Finally, after a season full of giving up hits to other people’s pitchers, one of our guys does it.

    And thank you, Omar. This is the Danys Baez I remember.

  190. 190
    Jeremy Says:

    Thank you for bringing in Baez, Charlie Manuel.

  191. 191
    mraver Says:

    Wow. That was awesome! Multiple hits in the same inning!!

  192. 192
    Brian J. Says:

    Baez for a quarter-share if SD loses.

  193. 193
    csg Says:

    Huddy with a 3 run lead

  194. 194
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    As official spoke person for levity and against excessive hope, let me remind everyone that the Phillies scored 11 and 7 in the first two games of this series, respectively. I wouldn’t write a 5-2 lead in the fourth down as a W in ink, just yet.

  195. 195
    Bethany Says:

    Come on, Huddy!

    I am getting sick of this ticky tack pass interference penalties against the Falcons.

  196. 196
    D.N. Nation Says:

    For F’s sake, Conrad.

  197. 197
    mraver Says:

    Well, that’s what happens when you’re forced to start your second backup IF.

  198. 198
    timo Says:

    How bad is Conrad?

  199. 199
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    As the official spokesperson against the use of the English language, allow me to say: ¡Allez, les Braves!

  200. 200
    ryan c Says:

    thanks sam for the enlightenment. we are all idiots here and just assumed that the game was already over. we now realize that we will still probably lose and fall out of wild card hopes. it’s a good thing too because that wild card thing is stupid.

  201. 201
    Catz Says:

    Hey, Brooks didn’t make an error!

  202. 202
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    I think it’s funny that two games ago, prior to this series, people here were seriously asking if Conrad was our starting 3B next year.

  203. 203
    brule™ Says:

    ummmm, error machine!!

  204. 204
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    Ryan, read @185.

  205. 205
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Dang, that was sweet.

  206. 206
    Bethany Says:

    WOOOOO!!!!! Wonderful.

  207. 207
    Catz Says:

    That was beautiful.

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    mraver Says:


  209. 209
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Sam, you’re kind of being a jerk. I’m not telling you how to feel. I’m just stating the facts.

  210. 210
    Adam R Says:

    Eat shit and die, Victorino.

  211. 211
    JoeyT Says:

    And when it matters most, McCann nails the throw.

  212. 212
    ryan c Says:

    that is funny. I’VE NEVER HEARD FUNNIER.
    *hysterical laughters*

  213. 213
    John Gaines Says:

    Wow, when does that happen with these guys?

  214. 214
    ryan c Says:

    sam, read @214.

  215. 215
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    Jesus, you’re a touchy little toddler today, Ryan.

  216. 216
    mraver Says:


  217. 217
    Catz Says:

    This is more like it!

  218. 218
    Askia Says:

    Derrek Lee wants to go to the playoffs!

  219. 219
    Jeremy Says:

    I’m not sure what “take the grand tour” means.

  220. 220
    ryan c Says:

    sam, are you talking to jesus or me? the sentence is confusing.

  221. 221
    csg Says:


  222. 222
    timo Says:

    I LOVE THIS!!!

  223. 223
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    So that’s why we traded for Derrek Lee.

  224. 224
    Adam R Says:

    Brian really was trying to hit a homer every AB.

  225. 225
    John Gaines Says:

    Derrek Lee is showing up just in time.

  226. 226
    csg Says:

    looks like the Heyward triple help loosen up the team a bit

  227. 227
    jdpeace Says:

    When I wake up for the actual game I hope they do this well.

    I’m busy Jessica Alba! Just keep my childhood tormentors dangling over the shark tank!

  228. 228
    JoeyT Says:

    This gives me confidence going into game four of the NLCS.

  229. 229
    rehabreject Says:

    taking care of what they can take care of?

  230. 230
    Mark Says:

    @ 204

    So I should not be excited in a game that is essentially our entire season? I’ll be sure to take my cue from you as to when to get excited about baseball in the future.

    On a more rational level, Oswalt and Hamels are out of the game and we are swinging the bats. Plus outside of one pitch, Hudson has been great. The Phillies ultimately don’t care about this game, and we will put forth all of our resources if necessary. At this point with this lead, it would be very surprising if we don’t win this game.

    But I’ll abstain from showing enthusiasm until you let me know it’s OK.

  231. 231
    Bethany Says:


  232. 232
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I’d like to thank Charlie Manuel for taking Cole Hamels out and putting in a string of righties. I think I can safely say that we wouldn’t score six runs against a week’s worth of lefties.

  233. 233
    jdpeace Says:

    Good news guys. I’m replacing Ankiel at the top half of the fifth. Get ready for a tape measure home-run followed by an on the field jam session with Wilco. I’ll be singing lead.

  234. 234
    rehabreject Says:

    Diaz is such a caveman

  235. 235
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Well that was insane. Can’t fault Matt for being aggressive.

  236. 236
    JJ Says:

    Isn’t it about time for Bobby to get Venters up? Wouldn’t that just be the perfect capper on his career?

  237. 237
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Also: Can’t fault anyone for being optimistic, can’t fault Sam for being careful. Sheesh, people, do we need a trust fall?

  238. 238
    rehabreject Says:

    swing for the downs?

  239. 239
    Big D Says:

    I live in an apartment and am making no apologies about the volume of my voice (and clapping and stomping) during this game. Kinda glad my wife had to work today so I can feel free to go crazy. I’m pretty sure the Titans are playing, but have no idea what’s going on. I haven’t been this pumped for a professional baseball game in a long time!

  240. 240
    Adam M Says:

    Venters is still alive? He should have started!

  241. 241
    Catz Says:

    Of course, MLB.TV won’t load. Looks like I’ll only have audio…

  242. 242
    rehabreject Says:

    Perfect capper would be to have everyone pitch to at least one batter… except for KK.

  243. 243
    timo Says:

    What ever happened to KK?!!

  244. 244
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Thanks for the megajinx, Chip. (something along the lines of “I don’t think we’ll need relievers at all”)

  245. 245
    Brian J. Says:

    Nah. The way the bullpen’s pitched the last two days, and since we might need then Monday, I keep Huddy in as long as possible.

  246. 246
    Catz Says:

    …And Don Sutton just sang part of the song “Mickey”. My life is complete.

  247. 247
    JonathanF Says:

    One word: resilient.

  248. 248
    JoeyT Says:

    @245, if the Braves win, they don’t play Monday. Tuesday, if the Pads win, since the NL West has to be decided first.

  249. 249
    stupup74 Says:

    Tim Hudson has HUGE SHIT today!!!!!!

  250. 250
    timo Says:

    One hit through six… BIG TIME!

  251. 251
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Good call, stupup74!

  252. 252
    sdp Says:


  253. 253
    Adam R Says:

    @249, Thanks for bringing that back.

    Well, our team’s MO the whole season has been to get the starter out and work on the ‘pen…

  254. 254
    Askia Says:

    Fun to be winning.

  255. 255
    Brian J. Says:

    248- Right. Sorry. My point stands, though.

  256. 256
    Bethany Says:


  257. 257
    joelk Says:

    Did I hear Chip mimic his grandfather a little while ago?

  258. 258
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    @257 – He does that all the time. He mimics Skip too.

  259. 259
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:


  260. 260
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    “The Hey-train around third.”

  261. 261
    Adam M Says:

    The “Hey Train”?

  262. 262
    timo Says:

    I like Hey-Train…

  263. 263
    D.N. Nation Says:

    That stat they’re always showing about how Huddy’s six million and two whenever he gets a lead like this- I was actually in the house for one of the no decisions. Daniel Kolb, esq, coughed up the lead but Andruw won it in extras. Cool story bro, I know.

  264. 264
    JoeyT Says:

    I thought he said “A Train,” and I was confused. Then I thought I must have misheard him, and he said “H Train,” which at least makes a little sense.

    Hey Train? That’s awful.

  265. 265
    NickC Says:

    Hopefully Matt Diaz is playing himself into a larger role should we make the postseason.

  266. 266
    D.N. Nation Says:

    And I like Hey-Train, too. I was never able to make Hey-Smoove happen, oh well.

  267. 267
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I don’t like Chip at all, but “Hey Train” isn’t half bad.

  268. 268
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    “The Hey-Train” is just horrible.

  269. 269
    timo Says:

    If Sam doesn’t like Hey Train, it must be pretty good ;-)

  270. 270
    Adam M Says:

    It’s awful.

  271. 271
    rehabreject Says:

    why are Utley, Howard, and Werth still in the game?

  272. 272
    D.N. Nation Says:

    I might be grading on a monster curve, seeing how it’s Chip.

  273. 273
    RobBroad4th Says:

    268, You’re right, my mistake.

  274. 274
    JoeyT Says:

    @271, excellent question. Ruiz was already hit. Romero had an injury. You’d think they’d sit.

  275. 275
    mwachsman Says:

    If we play Tuesday does anyone know what time the game will be?

  276. 276
    D.N. Nation Says:

    I’m sad the brain trust in Flushing won’t be returning. Was looking forward to the $100M they were going to throw at Werth.

  277. 277
    Bethany Says:

    “Hey Train” is infinitely better than “J-Hey Kid”.

  278. 278
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Oh, Tim. Don’t do this. Not now.

  279. 279
    JoeyT Says:

    Uh-oh. Time to be careful again.

  280. 280
    RobBroad4th Says:


  281. 281
    rehabreject Says:

    the game ends right when you get off work.. whatever your schedule is. Playoff baseball!

  282. 282
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Well that sucked. Hopefully won’t be seeing those guys anymore today.

  283. 283
    csg Says:

    2 hits and 4 runs, dont see that too often

  284. 284
    spike Says:

    @277, it’s a low bar, but agreed.

  285. 285
    stupup74 Says:

    Marvin Hudson is trying to give the Phillies this game.

  286. 286
    timo Says:

    Tim will be ok. Bring him back in the 8th!

  287. 287
    JoeyT Says:

    The starting pitching is solid for every contending team? Has he seen a Reds game?

  288. 288
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    “The J-Hey Kid” works in that it plays off of Willie Mays’ (“Say Hey”) and it works with his actual name. The “Hey-Train” is just absolute shite. At best it’s a play on the “A-Train”, who was a pitcher, and the A/Hey slant rhyme doesn’t even begin to work like “Say/J-Hey.”

  289. 289
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Sam- I’ve heard “____-Train” used with no inclination toward rhyme; Elton Brand’s nickname at Duke was “E-Train,” for example.

  290. 290
    RobBroad4th Says:

    The A Train is also a train.

  291. 291
    D.N. Nation Says:

    (I like how we’re having this argument to mask how nervous we all are.)

  292. 292
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    It’s either a play off of actual trains – “A” “B” “C”, etc. Or it’s a play on Walter Johnson’s nickname. Either way, it truly sucks for Jason Heyward.

  293. 293
    timo Says:

    The Con Train with a flyout.
    See, the train is working with every player. Ricky Train coming up… oh well.

  294. 294
    JoeyT Says:

    Hudson’s out? I don’t know about that. He’s pretty on fire, and this game is pretty important. I know the ‘pen’s good, but I’d rather have Hudson in there until he starts struggling.

  295. 295
    RobBroad4th Says:

    @292, I guess I’ll go back to calling him Jesus.

  296. 296
    Bethany Says:

    Matt Ryan looks terrible today.

  297. 297
    Guillermo Says:

    How did Saito look yesterday?

    Was he as bad as his stats say he was?

  298. 298
    Askia Says:

    Bobby better be prepared to use anyone in the 8th.

  299. 299
    JoeyT Says:

    @295, that will get confusing if that Yankees catcher makes the bigs.

  300. 300
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Venters 8th, Wagner 9th? Maybe Moylan 8th?

  301. 301
    sdp Says:

    Please do not let Farnsworth in this game.

  302. 302
    csg Says:

    Kimbrel in the 8th, Wagner in the 9th

  303. 303
    JoeyT Says:

    @301, The entire time Bobby’s been manager, a 4-run game has been treated as close. That’s what Mac means when he talks about the “Atlanta Save” in his recaps. We’re seeing the big late inning guys. No Farnsworth unless the Braves score some more.

  304. 304
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Venters? F*k the heck?

  305. 305
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Five more outs.

  306. 306
    JoeyT Says:

    @304, Lefties up. Venters makes sense here.

  307. 307
    csg Says:

    5 more outs and the Giants doing their job today

  308. 308
    Catz Says:

    Oh god… ideally, we should not allow Farnsworth anywhere near the stadium for this game

  309. 309
    D.N. Nation Says:

    The wave? This is why we can’t have nice things, Atlanta.

  310. 310
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Well, it’s been a good season. Bobby gave it his all. Jason Heyward was a better rookie than I ever imagined. We fell just short, but it was our best effort since 2005. It’s bitter to go home after so much promise, but I enjoyed watching the 2010 Braves.

    … reverse jinx?

  311. 311
    Mac Thomason Says:

    There is no situation in which I would want Kyle Farnsworth pitching, including the only other option being Melky.

  312. 312
    D.N. Nation Says:

    C’mon, V, get through this so I can turn to the Falcons.

  313. 313
    Brian J. Says:

    Oh no.

  314. 314
    RobBroad4th Says:


  315. 315
    D.N. Nation Says:

    For F’s sake, Omar.

  316. 316
    timo Says:


  317. 317
    Dan Says:

    Is third base just cursed?

  318. 318
    timo Says:


  319. 319
    brule™ Says:

    Venters, Commmmmmooon

  320. 320
    JoeyT Says:

    Bringing in Wagner now. I like it.

  321. 321
    Guillermo Says:

    Come on, Billy! Finish this.

  322. 322
    Askia Says:

    Good job Bobby. This is the season.

  323. 323
    Bethany Says:

    Falcons take the lead with 2 seconds left.

  324. 324
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Falcons go ahead with seconds left.

  325. 325
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    That was strike three, ump.

  326. 326
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Another strike three missed by blue.

  327. 327
    Dan Says:

    Friggin’ Omar.

  328. 328
    D.N. Nation Says:


  329. 329
    csg Says:

    not good folks

  330. 330
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Here comes the game-tying homer.

  331. 331
    Bethany Says:

    Oh my god….

  332. 332
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Oh we are totally f*cked.

  333. 333
    Catz Says:

    Well there’s the season.

  334. 334
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Oh God oh God oh God.

  335. 335
    RobBroad4th Says:

    This is a nightmare.

  336. 336
    jdpeace Says:

    Ok. Can all this not happen?

  337. 337
    Adam M Says:

    Why is McLouth in LF? WTF?

  338. 338
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Settle the hell down, Billy.

  339. 339
    brule™ Says:

    That’s enough. STOP

  340. 340
    sdp Says:

    lol, Braves.

  341. 341
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Methinks Bobby should’ve gone with Kimbrel.

  342. 342
    Adam M Says:

    This game is like the Braves season in a nutshell.

    I said it yesterday, I’ll say it again: you live by league-average players, you die by them.

  343. 343
    timo Says:

    You have got to be shittin me!

  344. 344
    ryan c Says:

    because, for some reason, bobby thinks matt cant play defense.

  345. 345
    rehabreject Says:

    342 just blew my mind

  346. 346
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Well, it’s been a nice season. See y’all next year, Braves.

  347. 347
    Dan Says:

    Two outs, no one on…

  348. 348
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Holy moly moly mo.

  349. 349
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:


  350. 350
    JoeyT Says:

    Still have the lead. Still in good shape. Whew.

  351. 351
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Well, that could’ve been worse, I suppose.

  352. 352
    Mark Says:

    Thank God….thanks Billy!!

  353. 353
    Bethany Says:

    Whew. One more inning..

  354. 354
    jdpeace Says:

    Oh thank god.

  355. 355
    Catz Says:

    I totally expected a 2-run double there. That strikeout was refreshing.

  356. 356
    csg Says:

    20 pitches for 1 out

  357. 357
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    You know what? I think I need another beer.

  358. 358
    Askia Says:

    Officially having a heart attack now.

  359. 359
    Guillermo Says:

    That was excruciating.

  360. 360
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Look on the bright side! Bottom of the order in the top of the 9th!

  361. 361
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Who goes in the 9th? Kimbrel? Surely Bobby wouldn’t send Billy back out there after that outing.

  362. 362
    Brian J. Says:

    And we still have to go through it again…. moan…

  363. 363
    jdpeace Says:

    Anyone know how to look up Wagner’s average pitch count per appearance?

    He’s at 21 right now. I assume coming back for the ninth.

  364. 364
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    Bobby will send Billy back out there.

  365. 365
    JoeyT Says:

    Wagner absolutely 100% goes out another inning. I wouldn’t put anyone else out there.

  366. 366
    csg Says:

    all because of another error at 3B

  367. 367
    timo Says:

    Better get an insurance run or three here…

  368. 368
    csg Says:

    we may need another run or two

  369. 369
    spike Says:

    In the first place, the Braves have managed to look even worse while winning, no small feat.

    In the second place J-Hey is more contrived ARod, Frod, KRod, etcRod nonsense. It’s a stupid nickname, not the least of which because it has no basis in the player. It’s just dumb marketing crap because everyone is “supposed” to have a nick name, regardless of whether it has any nominative reference in the actual player. Spare me the “Willie Mays” stuff – Heyward neither physically resembles Mays, nor is his game remotely similar offensively (yet) or defensively (probably never).

  370. 370
    JJ Says:


    You’re right, it’s gonna be Wags. Again, this is Bobby in a nutshell. He is loyal to a fault, and we will live or die because of that loyalty.

  371. 371
    JoeyT Says:

    Won’t need them. Wagner has this.

  372. 372
    stupup74 Says:

    That umpire has not given the braves the bottom of the zone. He has given the phils the bottom of the zone all day.

  373. 373
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Y’all know that John Rocker has a lifetime postseason ERA of 0.00? Really!

  374. 374
    jdpeace Says:

    Bobby would rather lose the game than “embarrass” Wagner.

  375. 375
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Wow, I couldn’t believe Jason could make it to second on that. That’s awesome baserunning.

  376. 376
    rehabreject Says:

    I just walked in drunk from friend’s house ….. and I walk in to what I believe is the best collection of bravesjournal posts ever in a single game

  377. 377
    Guillermo Says:

    Lifetime contract for Jason.

  378. 378
    csg Says:

    I like how Diaz went 3-4 and got pulled for a defensive replacement. However, he’s the best defensive LF that we have

  379. 379
    MaverickBraves Says:

    How Does Bobby’s Heart Take this????? I’m in the early 20’s and my one is looking to give up. Come on Braves!!

  380. 380
    timo Says:

    Hey Train running!!

  381. 381
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Spike, totally agreed on J-Hey. I’ve always preferred Bad Henry County, anyway.

  382. 382
    D.N. Nation Says:

    FWIW, in conversation, I call him “Jase” or “Big Jase.”

  383. 383
    csg Says:

    I prefer Heyward

  384. 384
    Adam M Says:

    The Phillies must be thinking “We Can’t Give this Away.”

  385. 385
    csg Says:

    3 run bomb to kill Lidge’s confidence would be nice

  386. 386
    timo Says:

    Do it, McCann!

  387. 387
    JoeyT Says:

    Wagner is in good shape, and he’s throwing the ball well. He’s the best short-outing reliever in the pen. Bobby’s going with Wagner because Wagner gives the team the best chance to win. Who else would pitch here?

  388. 388
    Adam M Says:

    “I like how Diaz went 3-4 and got pulled for a defensive replacement. However, he’s the best defensive LF that we have”

    This. 100 times this.

  389. 389
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Gnarly AB for McCann. Yick.

  390. 390
    RobBroad4th Says:

    What an awful at bat.

  391. 391
    Catz Says:

    We really didn’t need that, Brian…

  392. 392
    Dan Says:

    Our possible playoff cleanup hitter….

  393. 393
    csg Says:

    Nate sure as hell better do something here

  394. 394
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Oh, Heyward, Heyward.

  395. 395
    Catz Says:

    This is some really excellent baserunning by Heyward.

  396. 396
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Next person who squares to bunt gets a nutshot. Knock it off.

  397. 397
    ryan c Says:

    did you see the j-hey kid steal that base? that j-hey kid is awesome. go j-hey :)

  398. 398
    Adam M Says:

    Has McLouth always looked like a 10-year old? Seriously.

  399. 399
    spike Says:

    There hasn’t been a good nickname in baseball since The Big Hurt.

  400. 400
    Catz Says:

    If this were an away game, there’s no way we’re winning this.

  401. 401
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Spike- Oh, I don’t know, the ones we had for Kolb were solid.

  402. 402
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Hell of an at-bat there by McMcLouth. (He deserves the extra patronymic after that one.)

  403. 403
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Fly ball please.

  404. 404
    Catz Says:

    And here comes the inning ending double play.

  405. 405
    D.N. Nation Says:

    What the f*cking f*ck are you doing swinging there, you f*cking f*ck?

  406. 406
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Alex Gonzalez, I wish I could punch your nads.

  407. 407
    Jeremy Says:

    I LOATHE that guy.

  408. 408
    stupup74 Says:

    AGon has become AGag

  409. 409
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Gonzalez should be benched.

  410. 410
    Brian J. Says:

    AAG’s reliable, give him that.

  411. 411
    timo Says:


  412. 412
    Rusty S. Says:

    and there it goes…

  413. 413
    Catz Says:

    Let it be known that I posted that before it happened. That was just too easy to predict

  414. 414
    Tom Says:

    We will not win this game!

  415. 415
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Yeah. “Irrational” hatred for Alex Gonzalez, huh Sam?

  416. 416
    Dan Says:

    Two walks and AGony swings at the first pitch?

  417. 417
    sdp Says:

    F*CK YOU, AAG!!

  418. 418
    JoeyT Says:

    If you trade good hitters for poor hitters, do not be shocked when they hit into double plays at the worst times possible.

  419. 419
    D.N. Nation Says:

    I’m serious. Everyone in the world knows that Lidge is throwing junk low there to get you to hit a ground ball. Would it’ve killed to take a pitch? Would it’ve physically hurt you or something? Mercy me. Thanks for nothing.

  420. 420
    csg Says:

    irrational hate? no there is a good reason

  421. 421
    Guillermo Says:

    And it was a 1st pitch slider. He really is “consistent”.

  422. 422
    rehabreject Says:

    414!!! hahaha

  423. 423
    csg Says:

    Wagner and Bobby dont need to retire on a bad note….no baserunners here

  424. 424
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    The player is what he is. It’s regrettable that this lineup requires him to be more than what he is.

  425. 425
    Jeff K Says:

    I am going to have a heart attack. Awesome, awesome game.

  426. 426
    Adam M Says:

    Coming into today, Gonzalez had posted .202/.227/.330 over the past 28 days. What a gamer!

  427. 427
    Adam M Says:

    Maybe, if the Braves lose, Gonzalez can make the “clubhouse” feel better with his superior demeanor.

  428. 428
    csg Says:

    according to gameday Wagner is getting squeezed

  429. 429
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I don’t hate Alex. I just want to roshambo him.

  430. 430
    Bethany Says:

    Wonderful pitch.

  431. 431
    Jeff K Says:


  432. 432
    D.N. Nation Says:

    You’re damn right that was strike 3.

  433. 433
    Brian J. Says:

    Two more…

  434. 434
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Sit down, you whiny little twit.

  435. 435
    Jeff K Says:

    That made my knees buckle.

  436. 436
    spike Says:

    The player is what he is

    And was what he was for many years prior, which again begs the whole question of why he was acquired.

  437. 437
    Catz Says:

    Oh thank god. If Victorino walks, game over

  438. 438
    Mac Thomason Says:

    FUCK Shane Victorino.

  439. 439
    csg Says:

    roshambo, I like it

  440. 440
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Jim Joyce sucks.

  441. 441
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Please get the next batter out, Billy.

  442. 442
    Brian J. Says:

    One more…

  443. 443
    Bethany Says:


  444. 444
    csg Says:

    1 more Billy

  445. 445
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I’m ready to vomit my heart.

  446. 446
    Jeff K Says:

    YEAH ! YEAH !!

  447. 447
    stupup74 Says:

    F*ck the Phillies

  448. 448
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    @445 – That’s a pretty awesome turn of phrase.

  449. 449
    D.N. Nation Says:


  450. 450
    Jeff K Says:

    I just screamed so hard I think I lost my liver.

  451. 451
    Guillermo Says:


  452. 452
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:


  453. 453
    Bethany Says:

    God, that was sick. I can’t believe we won.

  454. 454
    Brian J. Says:

    And now we wait.

  455. 455
    csg Says:

    hells yeah, cmon Giants

    nicely done Billy

  456. 456
    stupup74 Says:


  457. 457
    sdp Says:

    We win!

  458. 458
    RobBroad4th Says:


  459. 459
    mraver Says:


    Now, Go GINATS!

  460. 460
    Rusty S. Says:

    Win, win, win.

  461. 461
    timo Says:


  462. 462
    Big D Says:


    and let’s go giants!!!!!!!

  463. 463
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:


  464. 464
    jdpeace Says:


  465. 465
    Guillermo Says:

    GO GIants. No walks today Jonathan Sanchez, please

  466. 466
    Nathan Says:

    That inside-corner slider was rockin’ today for Billy.

  467. 467
    brule™ Says:

    Thanks Wagner. Anyway braves go.

  468. 468
    Jeff K Says:

    Brooksie, da balls.

  469. 469
    Tomas Says:

    I’m not sure I can take much more of this.

  470. 470
    Jeff K Says:

    Do I recall a game in the early 1990s when the Giants beat the Dodgers to get us into the postseason?

  471. 471
    ububba Says:


    Go Giants

  472. 472
    Mike N. Says:

    Christ Almighty this game should not have been this close, but fuck yea!


  473. 473
    Catz Says:

    I swear, if we lost that game i might have had to quit watching baseball forever

  474. 474
    Jeff K Says:

    Or the other way around?

  475. 475
    Ross Says:



  476. 476
    JoeyT Says:

    MLB Network for the Giants/Pads game.

  477. 477
    Jeff K Says:

    PS – Found my liver.

  478. 478
    Brian J. Says:

    470- Yep. Next to last game in 1991.

    Edit: I stand corrected; ’91 was the Giants knocking out the Dodgers. (In ’82, the Dodgers knocked out the Giants on the next to last day, and then the Giants returened the favor.)

  479. 479
    D.N. Nation Says:

    FWIW, in a survey among friends at the start of the year, I said the Braves would go 91-71.

  480. 480
    Tom Says:

    Well, I jinxed the losing. I strongly believe that my “We will not win this game” post at #414 made all this possible.

  481. 481
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    Jeff K – other way around. 1993. Last great pennant race in MLB. Braves won the early game. Giants had to win to force a tie-breaker. Dodgers beat all holy hell out of them instead. Soloman Torres got beat around by Mike Piazza.

  482. 482
    RobBroad4th Says:

    @470, 1993. I remember it well.

  483. 483
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    This song is for Jason Heyward.

  484. 484
    Catz Says:

    All in all, a very memorable last game of the regular season.

  485. 485
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    Also, just to be petty:

    Ryan, good thing they kept scoring when they were up 5-2, huh?

  486. 486
    Jeff K Says:

    I actually think I bought an LA cap after that game — fan for a day (plus one).

  487. 487
    Mac Thomason Says:


  488. 488
    Jeremy Says:

    Someone needs to tell Chip the Braves won’t be playing tomorrow regardless of what happens between the Padres/Giants. Seriously, can’t a producer give the moron a schedule?

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