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09 Oct

Braves 5, Giants 4 (11 innings)

Atlanta Braves vs. San Francisco Giants – Box Score – October 08, 2010 – ESPN.

So, that’s baseball for you. Rick Ankiel and Kyle Farnsworth come through big, with the assistance of a guy playing the position for the first time all year, and the Braves get off the mat (resilience!) and head back to Atlanta with home field advantage and Tim Hudson going on long rest.

Tommy Hanson had a great breaking ball tonight, (last night, now) but couldn’t control his fastball. After going strikeout-single-strikeout to open the game, he walked Buster “The Outman” Posey, then left one over the plate that Pat Burrell crushed for a three-run homer, and considering the offense the Braves have shown, presumably the ballgame. They got another run in the second when Commando Cody Ross hit a single down the line that Melky “The Load” Cabrera misplayed into a double (he almost fell down, but fortunately held his feet, as he could have set off a 6.2 earthquake) followed by an RBI single from pitcher Matt Cain. We’re all starting to think about the offseason at this point.

But in the sixth inning, Derrek Lee singled, and went to second on a bobbled ball by Burrell. Brian McCann singled him in, but that was all the Braves would get, 4-1. The bullpen, once again, was doing a magnificent job keeping the Braves in it after Hanson was hit for in the fifth. Michael Dunn, Peter Moylan, and Jonny Venters combined to get through seven, then Craig Kimbrel pitched two perfect innings, both with two strikeouts.

Lee and McCann singled to open the eighth, and the Giants went to their closer of the bad dye job, Brian Wilson. Melky, being Melky, tried to ground out to fellow fat guy Pablo Sandoval, but the Kung-Fu Has-Been’s throw pulled the first baseman off the base, and Lee scored. Brooks Conrad bunted to make it second and third, and Alex Gonzalez, finally, hit a double to left center to tie the game. The Braves couldn’t get him home, but they lived.

Billy Wagner came out to start the tenth, with Omar Infante moving to second and Troy Glaus coming in at third on a double switch. Edgar Renteria, now a bench player, pinch-hit and picked on Glaus, laying down a bunt single. What’s more, Wagner hurt his oblique (probably) on the play; he got one man on a sac bunt but then had to leave… for Farnsworth.

I’m still not sure that what followed really happened and wasn’t a fever dream. Farnsworth hit the next guy on the hand, then walked Aubrey Huff to load the bases. And then, he got a grounder from the Outman right to Glaus, who threw just a little wildly to Omar, who handled it and relayed to first for the double play to get out of it. With one out in the eleventh, Ankiel hit a no-doubter into the Bay, giving the Braves the lead. Farnsworth allowed a one-out single, then got one Braves-killer, Travis Ishikawa, only to face… Commando Cody. Who popped out to deep short. Like I said, I’m not sure this all happened, but that’s what I remember and what the computer says happened, so I guess.

233 Responses to “Braves 5, Giants 4 (11 innings)”

  1. 1
    csg Says:

    Ankiel probably took his shortest swing all season on that bomb

  2. 2
    Catz Says:

    Anyone know of a Giants equivalent of Braves Journal? I like to see what opposing teams have to say sometimes :P

  3. 3
    Mac Thomason Says:

    After TCM the trending topics are now: Kyle Farnsworth, Buster Posey, Troy Glaus, Bases Loaded, and Ankiel.

  4. 4
    Smitty Says:

    I keep watching the highlights thinking we were going to lose somehow, but we still win it every time

  5. 5
    Bethany Says:

    You’re all welcome, by the way.

  6. 6
    stupup74 Says:

    There is not another equivilent to Braves Journal. Braves Journal is the greatest MLB fan blog on the net.

    BTW Great job Bethany

  7. 7
    ryan c Says:

    great wrapup, mac. GO BRAVES!

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    sdp Says:

    Cox says it’s Wagner’s oblique–done for at least the series.

    Step up, Craig Kimbrel.

  9. 9
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Thank you… There’s always the SB Nation blog.

  10. 10
    Smitty Says:


    Just read, don’t be a troll

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    Bethany Says:

    Man, Infante made the throw of his life on that turn.

  12. 12
    stupup74 Says:

    I love that braves live is on right now on fox sports south.

  13. 13
    Dan Says:

    Thanks Royals!

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    Smitty Says:

    Here is a better one

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    mraver Says:

    That was amazing. When Wagner went down, I knew it was over because that meant we were going to need not one but TWO innings (at least) of Farnsworth to get a win. And there’s no way he doesn’t give up like 5 runs in any given two-inning stretch. But somehow we made it! Playoff baseball is AWESOME! Super stressful, but awesome. :-)

    Also, Mac, you forgot how Bobby got ejected in the second for arguing over how out Posey was last night. (At least I’m pretty sure that’s what it was really about.) And, you know, the Braves win after Bobby gets kicked. :-D

  16. 16
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Wow, this is an epic, high-speed meltdown.

  17. 17
    Tony Says:

    Kimbrel was awesome, Lee 1st play was awesome, McCann is swinging very nicely…if we could get Heyward hot again, this might be something.

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    Trace Says:

    Great win! Now I can’t sleep.

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    CourtneyC Says:

    Bethany, can you post a picture of your treadmill so we can photo-shop a braves hat on it and put it in the team photo?

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    drewdat Says:

    Utley thought it hit him? Faker.

  21. 21
    Remy Says:

    I am so happy my team showed up to play.

    Go, Braves!

  22. 22
    Bethany Says:

    @19 Hahahaha, let’s not jinx it.

  23. 23
    RobBroad4th Says:

    “Yeah, I thought he was going to pull a Kelly Johnson on that last fly ball. I wouldn’t have been surprised.”

    I thought the exact same thing, Catz.

  24. 24
    mraver Says:

    That thread at McCovy Chronicles is awesome. I mean, I don’t usually revel in other people’s misery, but theirs is a rather wry and witty misery, so I can’t help but laugh.

  25. 25
    Smitty Says:

    46 come from behind wins

  26. 26
    Mac Thomason Says:


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    Stu Says:

    That thread is incredible.

  28. 28
    Alex R. Says:

    One of my favorite angry Giant fan quotes from that McCovery blog:

    Dear Pablo Sandoval,

    Fuck you too.


    Pablo Sandoval is the Giants Melky. LOVE IT.

  29. 29
    Alex R. Says:



    It’s awesome because it looks like ours from last night. Sad but true.

  30. 30
    Brian J. Says:

    From McCovey Chronicles:

    I just can’t believe the Giants couldn’t win with the bases loaded, one out, Posey at the plate and Kyle Farnsworth pitching.– jponry

    I’m sure it’s no consolation, but I don’t believe it any more than you do.

  31. 31
    Smitty Says:

    Yeah, when we lose it gets whinny here

  32. 32
    braves14 Says:

    Why does Ron Gant keep saying “if Tommy Hanson can come back” for a Game 5? Dummy doesn’t know it is on normal rest.

  33. 33
    Alex R. Says:

    Smitty, I think that’s every team that loses. Actually, scratch that. The Pirates no longer have a blog, they traded it to the Yankees.

  34. 34
    Trace Says:

    It’s safe to say Melktober has officially begun.

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    Alex R. Says:

    And for the record, I’m bookmarking the McCovey blog. Giant fans are kind of hilarious.

  36. 36
    JoeyT Says:

    Yeah, Giants fans seem to hate everyone in the baseball world right now except Matt Cain.

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    RobBroad4th Says:

    This little tidbit from the Giants blog:

    “Jonathan against Huddy.. in that ATL bandbox.. color me scared for Sunday..”

    I guess anything is a bandbox compared to AT&T.

    (Using two periods as an ellipsis is one of my biggest peeves.)

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    stupup74 Says:

    33 – lol

    As long as my ranting and raving and furniture flipping for the first 7 innings doesn’t end up getting me divorced, tonight will be the perfect night.

    SF Stoners and Baseball blogs + Gut wrenching losses = Hilariousness

  39. 39
    JoeyT Says:

    That Giants thread is really, really close to what this thread would be if Ross hit a HR off Farnsworth.

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    Randy Says:

    Seriously, What a great moment for Ankiel. I’m glad he’s finally been given a chance to play center, he’s at least a better choice than anything else we can put out there. I’m keyed! C’mon Sunday, Go get’em Tim!

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    mraver Says:

    One poster over at Mac link:

    “We’re Doomed.”

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    JoeyT Says:

    I honestly don’t know if Cox will go with Ankiel or Melky with a LHP on Sunday.

  43. 43
    Trace Says:

    Oh and one more thing, you know you’re a pretty pathetic crowd when you get pumped up by seeing the phrase “SHAKE YOUR POMPOMS” on the scoreboard.

  44. 44
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I loved the energy of the sellout crowds at home. Hopefully the Bravos can give them something to cheer about.

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    mraver Says:


    I doubt anyone here would’ve been surprised to see Ross hit a HR off of Farnsworth.

    But yeah, last night was really, REALLY rough. But it was different from tonight. Tonight for Giant fans is like a marginally less-bad version of the 2005 Joey Devine game.

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    Mark Says:

    Biggest, most exciting playoff win since ’99 I think…maybe the 99 NLCS Game 6, or the 99 NLDS Game 3 in Houston…

  47. 47
    CourtneyC Says:

    Alex Gonzalez hits a game-tying double? Rick Ankiel hits the game winning homer? Kyle Farnsworth dosn’t eff up and lose the game? What universe is this?

  48. 48
    Catz Says:

    Their fans are a lot less confident than I thought they would (and should) be… Hmm.

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    Mike N. Says:

    So how many times can a damn oblique strike down a Braves player?

    This was a hell of a damn game, absolutely can not wait until I get to the game on Sunday.

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    jdpeace Says:

    They also appear to be making fun of Rick Mahler, which only designated Braves fans should be able to do.

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    Charles Says:

    Guys, I don’t want to take all the credit, but after watching 14 innings of scoreless baseball and literally being insulted by the fan in front of us with Down Syndrome we headed for the exit of AT&T Park. While waiting for the train we saw the first run score. We got home in time to see Gonzalez tie it up. We really are that unlucky!

    Let me be the first to say that the sins of 2005 have been erased. Farnsworth, welcome to my heart.

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    jdpeace Says:

    I’m not proud of this but I’m going to spend most of the day tomorrow hiding from my wife and trying to see if I can rip towels in half. I’m guessing it’s easier than it looks, but I’m prepared to be humbled.

  53. 53
    Mike N. Says:

    A real man would rip a beach towel in half.

  54. 54
    Charles Says:

    Brian wilson should spend less time watching Major League and planning his outfit and more time practicing that baseball thing.

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    RobBroad4th Says:

    Not to revel in the misfortune of others too much, but this Facebook comment on my friend’s page made me laugh out loud:

    “I was at the game tonight. When all was done I just tossed my Orange pompom on the ground and left the park. Wow that lead give up was pretty sad.”

    Real men rip towels and throw pompoms.

  56. 56
    Tom Says:

    Apparently, the Giants fans are allowed to use the f*** word at will on their site. There’s a little more class here, I can remember only one thread (game 161) where people couldn’t help it. Fun to read though.

    What are our predictions for the series now? I said Braves in five prior to the series and will stick with it, though Braves in four seems not unlikely now. Realitically, the Giants are still favourites though. Should we win game3, which is a must for us, we wouldvstill have to face Lincecum in game 4 and then Cain again in game 5 in SF. Not easy at all.

  57. 57
    jdpeace Says:

    I’m going to start with a bed-spread. I’m feeling good.

  58. 58
    D.N. Nation Says:

    I was 5 beers of Octoberfest (local ATL brew for luck) into the night when Burrell hit the three-run dong.

    Everything after that? A mix of drunken irkdom, more drunken irkdom, and then all of a sudden Vodka-shots-and-Braves-addled release. I really can’t describe how I feel right now, because I’m afraid of it.

  59. 59
    Mike N. Says:

    @57- Bed-spread sounds good, work your way up. I suggest going Hulkamania after that and ripping a t-shirt. And THEN you can get into the towels. I wish you luck with this.

  60. 60
    Johnny Says:

    Dodo bird spotted in South Georgia.
    Colony of Yeti found to be living peacefully in Michigan.
    Elvis declared new president of North Korea.
    Rick Ankiel hits a clutch homerun. No, smashes, destroys, annihilates a ball to score a run.
    Kyle Farnsworth pitches out of two high leverage situations with the game on the line.

    Which of the above is more improbable?

  61. 61
    Catz Says:

    Ankiel’s HR was #1 on espn’s top plays… to my relief

  62. 62
    Catz Says:

    Also, my theory is that we transferred all of our “suck” to the Reds yesterday.

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    Tom O. Says:

    My brother and I sat it out in the left field bleachers tonight. Rougher crowd than last night, and it was hard to talk too loud when you’re down 3-4 runs the whole game. The Chipper jersey draws a lot of hate.

    But when Gonzalez hit that double. And when Ankiel hit that BOMB.

    Well, you could’ve heard a pin drop in that stadium. Except for us. Cause we were screaming our heads off.

    It was incredible. What a game. What a team. I do not want to see the Braves back in San Francisco. Win two in Atlanta and call it a day.

    Go Braves.

  64. 64
    Daniel Says:

    First of all, love the site. I recently stumbled upon it and have been hooked every since. Secondly, Melky didnt do horribly tonight. Let me say that I laughed at every Melky joke ive read thus far, and I love both the spirit and the delivery. But Melky has lost weight and despite swinging at pitches far out of the zone made contact with all of them. And they were in the upper 90s with movement. Plus, that grounder he hit to 3rd would have at least advanced the runners and was too softly hit to cause an out at 2nd. Either way the braves have a chance.

    The moment I knew we were playing the giants I thought two things. 1st: The team I most wanted the Braves to play was the Giants (and hopefully the Reds can find a way to beat the phucking fillies). 2nd: If we win 1 out of 2 on the road then we’ve got it. AS good as Lincecum was he wont be able to do it twice. The braves approach game 1 was way out of character. We didnt have the patience, the concept of the strike zone, or the poise to be successful. With the confidence we gained game 2 (I know it is one game but the moment the guys buy the out-of-the norm lincecum start theory their confidence will carry over immediately).

    They will start thinking that if anyone is remotely human (i.e. not lincecum or halladay game 1) then they can hit them. And when they start thinking that way then the next lincecum start won’t be so daunting and instead of being overly anxious (game 1) they will be confident.

    BRAVES WIN!!!!!!

    Go braves, see you on Sunday.

  65. 65
    Jeremy Says:

    Hope we see Glaus at 3B on Sunday.

    I had the pleasure of watching the game at a sportsbook surrounded by Giants fans. Their misery after the Ankiel homer was epic.

  66. 66
    BigE Says:

    Happy for Ankiel.
    Talk about resilience!

  67. 67
    Shawn Says:

    I don’t wanna take the credit, but after Cain’s single I shaved off the playoff beard I had let grow since last Sunday, then left for work. Got him and saw the final score on Braves Journal just a moment ago. Needless to say, I will now be shaving every day, on the regular.

  68. 68
    justhank Says:

    After Jason hit into the double-play, I went to bed.

    I deserve to be banished.

  69. 69
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    I should go to the mountains more often.

  70. 70
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I’m going to say something really ungenerous here, but I think our comment threads after a bad loss are better than the McCovey Chronicles threads. You won’t see “+1” or “This” or any other chatspeak or threadspeak here, just unfiltered raw human anger.

    That said, since we live in a world in which the laws of physics no longer apply, I’m going to make a million dollars in penny stocks, jump out of a window and fly to Australia, and then record a version of “Jack and Diane” that doesn’t suck.

  71. 71
    Kevin Lee Says:

    It’s a funny game, this baseball.

    Go Braves!

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    Smitty Says:

    DOB says Wagner out for next two rounds, probably Saito looks to be activated.

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    Seat Painter Says:

    It’s time for the July Venters and Kimbrel to give us a foretaste of next year.

    So –

    Chipper – Out.
    Prado – Out.
    Medlen – Out.
    Wagner – Out.
    Frenchy – Out (in Texas).
    Melky – Fat.

    And we’re still clawing and fighting and scratching…

    Dang, I love this team.

  74. 74
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Don’t forget Jurrjens, who’s effectively out.

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    Tiger224 Says:

    Well shit Smitty

    Buzzkiller bass turd.

  76. 76
    Smitty Says:

    I fully expect McCann to get hurt any day and then David Ross hitting a game winning grand slam.

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    kc Says:

    This team is a miracle itself. Seriously, the whole team may as well get hurt. Lee, AAG, Ankiel, and Farnsworth were the keys to last night’s win. The trades are all worth it.

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    c. shorter Says:

    Unbelievable. I went to bed down 4-1 (wasn’t feeling well, long week). Unbelievable.

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    csg Says:

    Glaus wanted to throw up…DOB game quotes

    On Glaus’ play

    “He came off the field and said he was about to throw up. Said he’s never really been put in for defensive purposes before [Chipper is laughing here, hardly able to finish the sentence.] When they hit it, I didn’t even know he was in the game. I was like, ‘Oh, my God, that’s Troy.’

    “And he made a decent throw and we got the double play. It was just fun to see his reaction, because he literally looked like he was about to heave.”

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    Marc Schneider Says:


    What does +1 mean? (I’m an old guy not oup on the newspeak).

    I like the city of San Francisco so much I can’t work up much hate for the Giants.

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    PaulV Says:

    Buster Posey Out was goat in game 2, would have been goat in game 1 with correct call

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    DowneasterJC Says:


    Don’t forget Buster Posey, who was also out.

  83. 83
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I’m not a big fan of the smell of urine, so San Francisco never really did it for me.

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    csg Says:

    screw all those Giant fans who are happy about the Wagner injury, classless…

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    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    +1 means “I’ve had one drink.” It’s shorthand for measuring drunkenness. “Sam +14” would mean “I am shit faced drunk at the thought of Melky in the five hole.”

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    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    @79 : to be fair he was out on a busted hit and run in G1. He was straight stealing.

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    RobBroad4th Says:

    If Kimbrel wasn’t flat out outstanding yesterday, I would’ve been way more upset about the Wagner injury. Now I want to win for Bobby and Wags.

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    justhank Says:

    Utley wasn’t hit by the pitch and his Jeter act was unprofessional in that he was nursing the wrong hand. Hope Votto told him where to put it.

    And he was out at second.

    And he missed third.

    I hate the Cheatin’ Phillies.

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    csg Says:

    Mac, needs those SEC picks

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    csg Says:

    #83 – Sam, was Bobby at the bar with you when making out the lineup card. Here’s the deal going forward I think.

    If you can bring Glaus in as a defensive substitution in that situation, you can start him. Id start Glaus over Conrad against Sanchez. Yes, I know neither are good solutions

  91. 91
    RobBroad4th Says:

    The more I see that double play from last night, the more impressed I am with Infante. That was a helluva turn.

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    Braves Fan on BART Says:

    I had the same fevered dream while at AT&T Park.

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    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    @88 – I disagree. I think you have to start the guy who can walk upright for more than 2 innings. Putting Troy in last night was a desperation move. You have to give Huddy the best possible infield and hope for the best. That means Conrad over the Glausinator.

  94. 94
    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    @90, didn’t diory come in for the 11th? Does that qualify as bringing in a defensive sub for the defensive sub? I’m thouroughly confused. happy but confused.

    As an aside, didn’t we win a playoff game in the old astrodome that was eerily similar to this? an improbable double play then win it in extras? the memory is foggy.

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    Gaz Says:

    What were the odds that Glaus throws that ball into right field? Even money? I am still in shock and every time I see a replay of it the more and more it looked like it was going in right field. Infante made a hell of a play to catch the ball, let alone turn the biggest double play of the year.

  96. 96
    Smitty Says:

    Yeah, I don’t think we want Glaus in for a long period of time

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    Bethany Says:

    “Farnsworth — often criticized for his inability to pitch in the clutch — had to induce a double-play ground ball, an almost implausible occurrence since in his entire career Farnsworth had only induced 34 double plays in 837 innings pitched.”

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    Rusty S. Says:

    I was surprised Glaus didn’t come home and try for a 5-2-3. Would have been safer, but all’s well, etc.

    To paraphrase the groundskeepers in Major League: “They’re still (lousy.)”

    But: Hooooooooooooooooooooope!

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    csg Says:


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    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    I think Glaus wen to second on pure instinct.

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    Rusty S. Says:

    Right, I forgot. Dooooooooooooooooooom!

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    Rob Cope Says:

    Alright gentlemen. I’m bringing a crew to the games on Sunday and Monday, and I know a lot of you guys will be there. I’d like to meet some of you guys since we have the common bond of the greatest website on the internet. Who’s heading out there?

  103. 103
    Adam M Says:

    Our options in CF are all awful against lefties. I say go with Ankiel, who–despite being an automatic out–can at least field a little.

    I just never want to see McLouth or Melky in CF again, even with a groundball pitcher on the mound. And anyway, neither can hit lefties either.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    Last minute SEC picks, home team in CAPS:

    Alabama 34, SOUTH CAROLINA 20
    Arkansas 35, TAMU 28
    VANDY 23, EMU 7
    FLORIDA 23, LSU 12
    Auburn 30, KENTUCKY 28
    MSU 12, HOUSTON 10
    GEORGIA 14, Tennessee 6

  105. 105
    Smitty Says:

    Wow, Mac is giving the Vols a shot. That’s a first.

    Go Vols

  106. 106
    Sam Hutcheson Says:

    McLouth or Ankiel.

  107. 107
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Giants blog by a Georgia fan, if you can believe it.

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    braves14 Says:

    I still can’t believe that game last night.

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    CourtneyC Says:

    It’s not that hard to understand: Glaus went in for Conrad on a double switch, so we could get 2 innings out of Wagner (which was a we had to do, considering our bullpen options behind Wagner) We couldn’t double swich for any of the outfielders because we used them all up earlier in the game. It was down to Glaus or Hernandez, so Bobby (**ahem** I mean Chino) rolled the dice on Glaus, knowing he would be up to bat the following inning.

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    PaulV Says:

    13 Giants struck out in first 9 innings last night vs 14 Braves in first game. Wags & Farns got no Ks.

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    csg Says:

    only the 3rd time since August 30th where the giants gave up 5+ runs

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    Rufino Linares Says:

    As I watched last night’s game I realized I had strong feelings of dislike towards Buster Posey. Something about his face- he just looked like a sneaky little shit. And then I understood that my irrational hatred was due to the fact that he strongly resembled Doug Neidermeyer from Animal House.

    (Here is where I would post a picture of them side-by-side to strengthen my [dubious] point, except I have no idea how to do so.)

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    ububba Says:

    I’ll be at both games.

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    Mac Thomason Says:

    I love the state of the Tennessee football program. Smells like… Vandy.

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    Big D Says:

    I’ll be at the Sunday game, with about 6 other guys coming down from Nashville with me.

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    Stu Says:

    Sam, a couple of things:

    That’s not what “+1” means. You +1 a post when you agree with it in its entirety. People who speak English, however, say things like, “I agree.”

    Also, the Glaus play wasn’t instinctive; it was planned. Don’t remember whether I saw it on MLB Network, TBS, or ESPN, but one of them showed camera footage of Troy, coming out of the mound meeting after Farnz walked Hiff, pointing to Infante and telling him he was coming to second on a ball hit to him.

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    csg Says:

    well, Penn state sucks

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    Tom O. Says:

    One other thing that’s been on my mind.

    If Brian Wilson were on my team, I think I’d like him. The cleats and beard and stuff are a little flashy, but he’s a pretty funny dude ( and he throws gas.

    However, he is not on my team.

    Because of that, nothing makes me happier than the fact that we tied the game off their closer and that Alex Gonzalez smoked that ball to left (about time, Alex, but all’s forgiven now).

    What really ticks me off, if you watched the BBTN highlight on the win, there’s lots of talk about “You can’t ask Brian Wilson to get a 6-out save and step out of his role.”

    I don’t buy it. We tied the game in the 8th and we tied it during a span in which the only out Wilson recorded was a sacrifice. If he blew up in the 9th, then the argument stands. But this was truly the most critical situation in the game, it was indistinguishable from a 9th inning save, for all intents and purposes, and Brian Wilson straight got beat.

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    Joe Defeens Says:


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    braves14 Says:

    I do not believe what I am seeing.

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    NickC Says:

    The more I watch that double play, the better it gets.

    How Omar Infante managed to turn it, I’ll never know.

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    FUWren Says:

    I’d like to thank Bruce Bochy for taking out his best hitter relatively early in the game for “defensive purposes”.

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    jdpeace Says:

    From ESPN

    “Distraught over last night’s loss to the Braves, Brian Wilson has left the team and has refused demands by team officials to return. A source with the Giants front office says while the departure is shocking it is not unexpected.

    ‘Brian’s been experimenting with a lot of ‘mood-altering’ stuff recently. He’s been working out his pitch sequence with a mysterious ‘guru’ who’s trying to get him on the same wave-length as the velocity-harmonics inherent in all living things. Change-ups are a denial of the reborn self from what I hear. It’s all weird shit. He was headed for a breakdown.’

    Wilson has refused to comment on his departure, relying instead on a terse written statement indicating his plans to construct a gigantic pitcher’s mound where he will live until he can learn to throw the perfect pitch, which he believes will exceed all other pitches ever thrown.”

    Smile Brian. It will get better.

  124. 124
    braves14 Says:

    Alabama has 14 points in a most unconventional fashion.

  125. 125
    braves14 Says:

    That’s 6 McElroy sacks. Through 3 quarters, Bama has 52 yards on 24 carries.

  126. 126
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Sigh. FML.

    Why would you not let your Heisman trophy winning RB touch the ball? When did Bobby Cox become HC for Alabama?

  127. 127
    CourtneyC Says:

    Eff you, Steve Spurrier.

  128. 128
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Well at least we never have to hear Verne go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about how McElroy hasn’t lost as a starter since he was a fetus in the first trimester.

  129. 129
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Bama’s O-Line has disappeared or given up or something, because South Carolina’s defense is not this good.

  130. 130
    Mac Thomason Says:

    This game has made me literally sick. Ugh. I’m going to bed.

  131. 131
    csg Says:

    oh well, Bama got outplayed and outcoached..gotta improve

  132. 132
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Nobody getting paid $4 million should be outdone by Spurrier in anything, even if it’s in being Spurrier.

    Seriously.. when did everyone decide that McElroy was a good enough passer to completely ignore the run game? I mean for a time when you were down by 3 scores you had to go to the pass I guess, but they were within a TD at one point in the second half and they still stuck with McElroy.

    Also, for a Rhodes Scholar, McElroy was pretty dumb out there today. Throw the ball away, ffs.

  133. 133
    csg Says:

    everyone is to blame for that loss. Offense, Defense, special teams, coaching staff…everyone

  134. 134
    Jeremy Says:


  135. 135
    Jeremy Says:

    Is down for everyone, or it just me?

  136. 136
    csg Says:

    just u

  137. 137
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Tweets by me:

    Seriously, Alabama could have had Melky playing cornerback and the defensive backfield couldn’t have been much worse.
    Mark Barron meanwhile demonstrated what it would have been like if Francoeur has played safety after all. Always stupid & out of position.
    To complete the trinity, Donta Hightower looked as sluggish as Dan Kolb after six burritos.

  138. 138
    Jeremy Says:


    It won’t even load on my phone. Weird.

  139. 139
    braves14 Says:

    Meanwhile, Florida is trying to see if they can break a school record for ugliest uniform combination.

  140. 140
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I just saw a story that said “…without Cabrera for Game 3” but it turns out it’s the Reds, not us. Too bad.

  141. 141
    braves14 Says:

    Jordan Jefferson is awful.

  142. 142
    Duvall Says:

    If you dislodge second base on a slide, what is considered safe? Contact with the base?

  143. 143
    spike Says:

    I have little love for South Carolina, and even less for Steve Spurrier, but after listening to a fair number of Tide fans talk about the regular season as a mere formality, this is a bit of schadenfreude (Mac of course has more class than to do such a thing, and I fell for you, buddy).

  144. 144
    Jeremy Says:

    Florida is absolutely dreadful. They’re the 14th best team in the nation like I’m a porn star.

  145. 145
    Parish Says:

    144 – Oh, you’re RON Jeremy.

  146. 146
    Bethany Says:

    They are 14th best like Cam Newton is a Heisman candidate.

    Which he clearly isn’t, and if football is so down this year that he ends up in the final vote, that’s sad.

  147. 147
    Parish Says:

    Eastern Michigan must be really, really bad.

    Go ‘Dores.

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    Stu Says:

    147—They’re either the 119th- or 120th-best team in Division I, depending on your opinion of Western Kentucky. There’s a reason they’ve lost 17 in a row, coming into this one.

    Even as sloppy as this year’s VU team has been, this is about the kind of score I expected.

  149. 149
    spike Says:

    What the heck is wrong with Cam Newton? He’s got nearly 1000 yards passing and 500 rushing yards prior to tonight’s game. I certainly agree they haven’t had the hardest schedule, but a number of worthy opponents in that group, including South Carolina. He’s a perfectly reasonable candidate right now.

    And another 137 RUSHING yards tonight – Auburn can’t play defense, apparently, but Newton is having a terrific year.

  150. 150
    Stu Says:

    I’m with you, spike. It’s no knock against the competition that he’s in the running. He’s been amazing.

  151. 151
    Jonathan Says:

    @102, 113 & 115 (Rob, ububba, Big D) – I’m heading down with my brother-in-law for Sunday’s game. Is there a meeting place or anything for anybody? I’d love to meet some of you guys (that sounds like I don’t want to meet the rest, but I guess imprecision is ok). I have Rob’s cell # (if it is still the same), so if you guys are meeting up with home I’m sure I could get info from him…this is my 1st playoff game, and I am so excited (SO EXCITED!!). I told my wife I still don’t have “HOPE” (as in, they ‘should’ go deep in the playoffs) – but in my opinion, we’re playing w/ house money at this point so I’m fine no matter what…

  152. 152
    Bethany Says:

    @149 Oh, I don’t know, his inability to make throws under 5 yards? That he makes more throws with poor mechanics than anyone I’ve ever watched? He is good, he is not elite.

  153. 153
    Stu Says:

    Mechanics??? This is the Heisman, not the Scouting Combine.

  154. 154
    Bethany Says:

    Bad mechanics and lazy play lead to interceptions, and he throws a lot of them.

  155. 155
    sdp Says:

    I can’t quit watching Ankiel’s homer.

  156. 156
    csg Says:

    anyone hear a distance on it?

  157. 157
    spike Says:

    What? He’s only thrown 4 picks this year – and none before that. His QB rating is 191.44, FWIW, compared to say, Mallet’s 173.

  158. 158
    csg Says:

    Auburn/Arkansas will be a good matchup next week. I still think Arkansas is the better team

  159. 159
    Bethany Says:

    I agree, csg. I think Auburn gets crushed.

  160. 160
    Brian J. Says:

    I found a distance of 450 feet, but I’m not sure how trustworthy that is.

  161. 161
    csg Says:

    I didnt say that…but it wouldnt upset me

  162. 162
    Bethany Says:

    It would be funny if Byrum missed.

  163. 163
    Stu Says:

    Les Miles, LOL. I love that guy.

  164. 164
    Parish Says:

    Twins on the verge of elimination.

  165. 165
    RobBroad4th Says:

    @155, That and the double play. My mood may do a total 180 tomorrow, but I’ve been glowing in this win all day.

  166. 166
    spike Says:

    Good Christ, Newton had 4 rushing tds tonight and led the team on an 86 yard drive to eat up the last 7:30 for the winning FG. 6-0. We ain’t all that, but we ain’t bad, and it’s been awhile for a Tiger fan to say that.

  167. 167
    braves14 Says:

    Les Miles should have called an early timeout and just gone for it instead of eating all that clock.

  168. 168
    braves14 Says:

    Then again, maybe not.

  169. 169
    Bethany Says:

    Newton comes out with great stats because they won’t let anyone else do anything. Dyer looked great tonight, but how many times did they give him the ball? It’s easy to run up numbers when you won’t give the ball up.

    I’m not saying I’m not happy to have him, but I’m shocked that he’s regarded this highly.

  170. 170
    Stu Says:

    Honestly, it sounds like you hate him, Bethany. I mean, you’re an Auburn fan, and he’s clearly been one of college football’s best, most exciting players this season, and all you do is trash him.

  171. 171
    braves14 Says:

    From a South Carolina fan, Newton was the reason Auburn won 2 weeks ago. He carried that team and we couldn’t stop him.

  172. 172
    Bethany Says:

    Why would I hate him? I’m just not going to crown him the best player in the nation after playing a bunch of crappy teams.

  173. 173
    spike Says:

    He had a 200 yard rushing game (7 yards per carry too), for crying out loud – I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t let anyone else do anything either if I was running the team.

    /he had 176 and 3 rush/2 pass TD’s against South Carolina – they aren’t crappy are they?

  174. 174
    braves14 Says:

    I’m just not going to crown him the best player in the nation after playing a bunch of crappy teams.

    South Carolina is pretty good and just held Alabama to 36 total rushing yards.

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    Stu Says:

    172—LOL. I mean, are you even reading what I’m saying? Are you even reading what you’re saying?

    No one is crowning him the best. You seem to be taking every opportunity you can to trash him. And he’s the very-successful quarterback of your team. It’s weird.

  176. 176
    JoeyT Says:

    Newton is phenomenal and should be in any Heisman conversation. He’s the only skill player worth mentioning on an SEC team with crummy defense that’s 6-0. He and the O-line are almost the entire team, and they’re undefeated.

    It seems like at every critical moment, the Kentucky LOLcats were able to find a gaping hole in the zone. I don’t know if it’s design or execution, but something has to be fixed.

  177. 177
    Bethany Says:

    @174 So you’re going to counter with “well, maybe one out of the 6 teams was alright?”

    If my opinions disturb you all so much I’ll keep them to myself. Sorry to cause a commotion.

  178. 178
    ryan c Says:

    bethany, these are dumb complaints. auburn is 6-0 and cam newton is the most exciting quarterback for auburn in decadads…well, maybe ever. give it up. he has a 191.44 qb rating, 1000 yards passing 12 passing td to 4 ints.

    oh, and he runs the ball pretty well too.

  179. 179
    braves14 Says:

    It wasn’t all that long ago that Brandon Cox and Kodi Burns were Auburn’s QBs.

  180. 180
    Bethany Says:

    Again, when did I say I wanted another QB?

  181. 181
    braves14 Says:

    It’s just strange that you’ve seen really bad QBs for your team very recently but yet are complaining about Newton.

    It would be like if someone was complaining about Wagner when we had Kolb and Reitsma a few years ago.

  182. 182
    Stu Says:

    Dameyune Craig was my all-time favorite Auburn QB, prior to Newton.

  183. 183
    Bethany Says:

    I’m not even complaining about Newton. You all turned this around after I said it was ridiculous that he was being considered for the Heisman. He is a very good athlete and I’m not going to crown him until he faces some stiffer competition. The end.

  184. 184
    braves14 Says:

    Bad mechanics and lazy play lead to interceptions, and he throws a lot of them.


  185. 185
    ryan c Says:

    672 yards rushing and 9 RUSHING TDS! he already has more rushing yards than michael vick in his best year for VT. he’s also on pace to surpass vick in passing yards. yeah, he has no business being a heisman candidate…geez.

  186. 186
    mraver Says:

    It was a forward pass.

    Also, who doesn’t tell their kick team, “Hey guys, their kicker has never hit one this far, and also Les Miles is insane. Let’s play back a bit and not let them get off a fake, okay?”

    Seriously, the blitz calling in that game was slightly less frustrating to watch than Game 1.

  187. 187
    Mike N. Says:

    So did you get any towels ripped today, jd?

  188. 188
    ryan c Says:

    cam newton: 65.5 completion% 12td 5int 1,138 passing yards
    682 rushing yards 6.5 yards per carry 9td 0 fumbles

    yeah bethany, your complaints are legit.

    btw, he’s had 3 games where he’s rushed over 170 yards and 2 of them were against SEC teams.

  189. 189
    td Says:

    I have to admit that as a Bama fan I fell for the hype this year. There is no way any team loses 10 starters on defense including 4 All Americans without missing a beat.

    Bama played with a lot of intensity in their first 3 games and made no mistakes. They made a lot of mistakes against Arkansas, but since Arkansas has a one-dimensional offense they were able to overcome them. Alabama didn’t beat Florida as much as they beat themselves. South Carolina has a rushing attack and a decent qb. Our d just couldn’t stop both the run and the pass.

    I think Bama will improve, but going undefeated from here on out is a long shot. They just have too many holes defensively to expect perfection.

  190. 190
    sdp Says:

    I’m not impressed by purchasing playoff success.

  191. 191
    JoeyT Says:

    Is it better to purchase regular season success?

    All teams have payrolls. Ones with more money get better free agents and keep their stars. That’s as true in the playoffs as the rest of the year.

  192. 192
    Johnny Says:

    Ankiel, Farnsworth, Gamecocks over Bama. I’m scanning the sky for the giant asteroid as I type this.

    Ok Gamecocks out there. Is this the biggest win in school history?

  193. 193
    Bethany Says:

    Les Miles has to be the luckiest son of a bitch in history.

  194. 194
    ububba Says:

    Just back from Yankee Stadium. A very ho-hum affair tonight.

    Hughes was good. Duensing, not so much.

    Off to the ATL in the morning, go Braves.

  195. 195
    jdpeace Says:

    @187 Let me put it this way. Now that I’ve laid my thing down, it’s going to take a wee bit longer to dry a dish around this place. Showers will remain unaffected.

  196. 196
    Bethany Says:

    I’m sort of scared to say it, but I’m hopeful for tomorrow.

  197. 197
    Nick Says:

    First of all, since I didn’t get to drop by last night, that was a truly amazing win. From Glaus turning the double play despite throwing to the wrong base, to Rick Ankiel hitting (crushing!) the game-winning homer, to Kyle Farnsworth getting through the bottom of the 11th despite hanging nearly every freaking pitch, truly unbelievable!

    Secondly, one day Les Miles will single-handedly lose a game in an all-encompassing nuclear shitstorm of a horrible decision. I really hope I’m watching that game.

  198. 198
    D.N. Nation Says:

    Things that are worth noting:

    – Georgia gave up 17 points to South Carolina in the second game of its new defensive scheme.

    – Georgia beat the absolute piss out of a team that LSU needed the usual Les Miles Faustian Bargain (TM) to beat at the buzzer.

    – It’s probably safe to say that Georgia actually kinda sucks.


    – Bama was overrated.
    – LSU is Satanic.
    – Go Braves.

  199. 199
    chris Says:

    don’t look now, but UNC and Johnny White (180 yards) have won 3 in a row and get the Seminoles and VT at home. we could win out WITHOUT all the players suspended.

    now, what will annoy all of us is what would have been had everyone been playing.

  200. 200
    Adam R Says:

    We’re facing a lefty today? Oh, wonderful.

    And did you see this?

    “We’ll mix and match the seventh, eighth and nine innings,” Cox said. “Whoever matches up those particular innings, that’s who’s going to be out there. We’ll close with whomever. I’ve always thought Moylan could close, and Farnsworth has closed in the major leagues…”

    I’ll give you time to bash your head into the computer desk, go ahead.

    “…Venters, no reason why he can’t, as well as Kimbrel.”

    I guess this may not be as big a deal as I’m making it out to be. I hope not.

  201. 201
    Rusty S. Says:

    Probably just Bobby being Bobby, pumping up his guys. Venters and Kimbrel have been getting the important innings, and I doubt that changes now.

  202. 202
    billy-jay Says:

    You know, I don’t think it matters. I think the Braves have taken more than enough torpedos to sink the ship. What is happening now doesn’t have anything to do with sense or reason.

    How much magic is left? I don’t know, but tomorrow is a holiday, so I aim to stay up and find out.

  203. 203
    billy-jay Says:

    Also: who knew the Japanese celebrated Columbus Day?

  204. 204
    RobBroad4th Says:

    @203, Wow, that is odd.

    I’m as happy with Farnsworth as anyone, but he was living dangerously. If he closes over the likes of Moylan, Kimbrel, or Venters…God help us.

  205. 205
    Cory Says:


    North Carolina visits Tallahassee before they host the Hokies. That trip to Florida State will not be easy. Jimbo Fisher and Mark Stoops have the Noles back in all areas.

  206. 206
    billy-jay Says:

    Rob, it’s just a coincidence. I can’t recall what they’re celebrating tomorrow (and I’m not motivated enough to look it up).

  207. 207
    RobBroad4th Says:

    And the award for most gullible poster goes to…

  208. 208
    justhank Says:

    I think it’s “Free Kawakami Day”.

    Does anyone doubt that Bama will run the rest of the table, win the SEC Championship Game and present a big-ass problem for the BCS Selection Committee?

  209. 209
    Bethany Says:

    @208 If I was happy about anything involving the Alabama loss, it was the anticipation over the mess that is going to take place involving who plays for the NC. Man, I hate the BCS.

  210. 210
    Brian J. Says:

    According to intensive research (read, a quick Google), it’s Health and Sports Day in Japan.

    The holiday started after the Tokyo Olympics in 1964, to promote active lifestyles. Many companies and schools have athletic contests today.

    This holiday in our country would present all sorts of interesting questions, like which of Bobby, Melky, or Torgo would win a 100-yard dash.

  211. 211
    billy-jay Says:


    Has anyone watched the Marble Hornets vids?

  212. 212
    billy-jay Says:

    In that case, I will celebrate Health and Sports Day by watching the Braves and drinking beer. If necessary, I will sprint to the toilet.

  213. 213
    FlaBravesFan Says:

    I really believe they should split closer duties between Venters and Kimbrel, use the other along with Moylan to set up….just my 2 cents

  214. 214
    ryan c Says:

    moylan’s a decent option to close. he’s pretty good if he doesnt inherit runners.

  215. 215
    mraver Says:

    I don’t doubt that Bobby will use both Venters and Kimbrel in crucial situations. Though truth be told, he’s seemed to rely more heavily on Kimbrel of late. I suppose he might also give the chances to Saito, though I’m not sure how much confidence he’ll have in Saito at this point.

  216. 216
    chris Says:


    you’re right. my bad. i’m chalking that up as a loss. we should win all the others except that. 8-3 on this season would be a miracle.

  217. 217
    Mark Graybill Says:

    I’ve counted this Braves team out so many times in the last couple of months, but they keep stubbornly thwarting my negativity. Plus, if I come on here today after that glorious win on Friday spouting gloom and doom, I would be a bigger douche bag than the Yankees first baseman.

    So, let me just say this: There is a very real possibility that Jonathan Sanchez, whom the Braves have handled pretty well in the past, could absolutely shut this team down today. That’s my biggest worry. (I also worry that we may have used all our bullets against the Giants great bullpen.)

    But the Giants have shown that they are not exactly an offensive juggernaut, and even if Tim Hudson is not super-sharp, he should be able to keep them in check. With the Braves coming home with some mojo and momentum (two mos there)and playing in front of the first playoff sell-out crowd that I can recall in a decade, I’m cautiously optimistic they’ll do business today.

    It would be a tremendous help if Jason Heyward started hitting again, though.

  218. 218
    Mark Graybill Says:

    Oh, and to Johnny @192: I can’t think of a bigger win in Gamecock history than the one yesterday. I have ties to both Alabama and SC, so the whole experience was a little bittersweet, but since I lived in Columbia longer, I’d have to say I was mostly ecstatic. But for those who detest Steve Spurrier–I feel you.

  219. 219
    csg Says:

    Bama has two REAL games left. I still think they are better than both Auburn and LSU. They get to control their destiny in getting to the SEC title game. That is the goal, screw the BCS…

  220. 220
    Johnny Says:

    Yeah, for the longest time success for USC was a 6-5 record and the Poulan Weedeater Bowl.

  221. 221
    Bethany Says:

    I know Mac hates orange… but the Browns uni is my all time favorite.

  222. 222
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Hopefully USC beats Florida and Alabama has a chance for revenge.

  223. 223
    Mac Thomason Says:

    For the second straight week, Birmingham is getting the Saints game instead of the Falcons game. New Orleans is more than twice as far as Atlanta…

  224. 224
    Cory Says:


    What’s your new top 10 look like?

  225. 225
    Cory Says:

    Another thing that might screw up the BCS picture is Michigan State and Ohio State do not play this year? Could have two undefeated teams coming out of the Big 10 if OSU can survive the trip to Madison and MSU can survive the trip to Iowa City.

  226. 226
    Mac Thomason Says:

    No comment.

  227. 227
    Johnny Says:

    I know its a sore point, but since I think that the BCS is BS, I think Cory’s scenario is hilarious.

  228. 228
    Bethany Says:

    Cleveland looks pretty good.

  229. 229
    Tony Says:


  230. 230
    TomL Says:

    No Melky? No complaints

  231. 231
    Dan Says:

    Really surprised Cox went with Ankiel over Cabrera with the ‘tough lefty™’ starting for the Giants.

  232. 232
    sdp Says:

    Braves asked MLB to replace Wagner with Saito. No reason that shouldn’t go through. Wags wouldn’t be eligible until the World Series, assuming we even get that far and he’s healthy. His career is probably over.

  233. 233
    DowneasterJC Says:


    Are those the Slender Man videos? If so, yeah I’ve watched them. Most of them anyway. I haven’t seen any new ones if they’ve added them in a while, but the original ones were pretty good.

    I’m a sucker for that kind of creepy stuff. My favorite is still the Dionaea House.

    If anybody wants a decent read before the game.

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