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11 Oct


Tragic hero | Define Tragic hero at

“A literary character who makes an error of judgment or has a fatal flaw that, combined with fate and external forces, brings on a tragedy “

550 Responses to “Tragic”

  1. 1
    billy-jay Says:


    If anyone cares, here is a diversion from baseball.


  2. 2
    mravery Says:

    I think you mean “erra” in the OP.

  3. 3
    Kevin Lee Says:

    Hang in there, Mac.
    Not a weekend that you’ll look back on with undiluted pleasure.
    Weekendus horribilis?

  4. 4
    BFedRec Says:

    I feel so bad for Brooks, and the rest of the team and the fans too, but sheesh, poor guy… I hope we can pull out a win today… I’d love to see the NLCS series with the Braves in it… I expect them to get slaughtered against any other team but the Giants at this point, but I can still hold out hope McCann/Lee/Heyward get their groove back and can carry us a bit further into the post season. Hopefully far enough that they can all get the bad taste out of their mouth from the last couple losses.

  5. 5
    Tony Says:


    I think your last point is the best. Heyward, especially needs to get a couple of hits tonight. I would hate for him to go into next season after such a pitiful postseason performance. As far as Lee and Conrad, more than likely they will not be Braves next year, McCann has done okay.

  6. 6
    jjschiller Says:

    Slot Glaus in there, bat him fifth, and let’s play ball.

  7. 7
    ryan c Says:

    why are so many people saying brooks will not be on the team next year? according to fangraphs, he was worth 3 million this year and got paid 400k. sure, he played terrible defense and looks to be sort of a head case, but he has real value coming off the bench. for 400k, i’ll take him back.

  8. 8
    Ron E. Says:

    Brooks is just a guy forced by injuries to play a role he isn’t capable of filling. Bobby is the real tragic hero.

  9. 9
    Tony Says:


    You are right, this is Atlanta after all. If this were Philly, Boston, or New York and they didn’t make it past this round…of course he would not be back. So you are probably right.

  10. 10
    RobBroad4th Says:

    In Brooks’ defense, his first error was erased on a good play by Mac and his second error was pretty questionable considering he was running and looking over his shoulder to compensate for a shaken up Heyward. If Brooks makes the catch, the runner might have tagged from third because of his positioning (I forget how deep it was, I know he ran quite a ways). If not, there’s a good chance the Giants get him in with two more outs to play with. The Billy Buckner play is what really hurt.

  11. 11
    csg Says:

    how bad is Hinske at 3B?

  12. 12
    Tony Says:

    ‘The Billy Buckner play is what really hurt.’

    It’s hard not feel for Brooks b/c of that, then he again he gets paid pretty well to be able to make that play.

  13. 13
    sansho1 Says:

    With an extreme groundball pitcher starting tonight, I’d start Diory at third. Plan to bring in Moylan as the first pitcher after Lowe, then pinch hit for Diory either as soon as they’re both done, or as early as the fifth inning if the situation dictates.

  14. 14
    drzachary Says:

    My prediction:

    Infante 2B, AGony SS, Necromantically-animated Glaus 3B.
    Conrad, Redemption Pinch Homer.

  15. 15
    ryan c Says:

    at about 10:00 last night, a peace swept over me concerning this loss. in a series of 5 games, anything can happen, and it’s upsetting to lose a game we should have won.

    but in a 7 game series, the phillies would completely smoke us. whether we win the next 2 or go meekly into the night, we’re delaying the inevitable here and i’m glad we just made it back to the playoffs. i think we’re going to be very active in the trade market this offseason and in free agent signings. we could be great next year.

  16. 16
    ryan c Says:

    also, even though he’s been very poor down the stretch, AAG has trade value. according to fangraphs, he’s the 6th most valuable ss in the majors. cashing in on a career year, a low salary, and a weak ss market would be righteous.

  17. 17
    FlaBravesFan Says:

    I feel for Brook’a too, I threw a wild pitch in the last inning of a State Regional Finals game and let the winning run score. I didnt go to school for two days afterwards….didnt matter that I was 3-1 1.87 ERA with 12 saves (1 blown) coming into that game. Same with Brooks, he’s been a helluva bench player all season, and now thats what I’ll be remembered for. I hope they give Brooks a good reception tonite. He’s playing out of position, it would be like Francouer playing SS…

  18. 18
    Mike N. Says:

    I made crucial late inning errors that cost us the lead in the intramural softball playoffs two years in a row. One was the championship game. They were throwing errors, though. That hurt.

  19. 19
    Brian J. Says:

    Ryan, in the last two weeks, he’s pretty much given every nickel of it back. We have a 1B for next year (Freeman), Conrad can’t play any other position, and we’re not in the league that has a DH. (Honestly, Seattle or Anaheim really ought to think about bringing him in given the state of their DH pools.)

  20. 20
    sansho1 Says:

    I was at the end of a direct kick defensive wall in the DeKalb County age 11-12 semifinal match. Dude kicked it right at my head, I flinched, and the ball went in the upper corner of the goal. It wasn’t the decider, but I still felt like the biggest goat.

  21. 21
    Smitty Says:

    Without Brooks, we aren’t in the playoffs. He is a head case right now though, anyone else I would be pissed at, but not Folk Hero.

  22. 22
    DowneasterJC Says:

    One time I was supposed to go over to someone’s house and let their dog out, but I forgot and it pooped in the floor.

    I guess that’s kind of the same.

  23. 23
    justhank Says:

    Not since David sent Uriah the Hittite to the front of the battle has a commander so malfeased one of his troops.

    I know we’re shorthanded, but Brooks proved without a doubt that he wasn’t ready for the pressure of playing defense when the whole world was watching.

    Turning an asset into a liability by overextending it may be the definition of poor management.

    Took me awhile, but I feel really sorry for Conrad. It would be like someone appointing me to lead a SWAT raid. Everyone would die.

  24. 24
    justhank Says:

    In the heat of the moment, someone posted a gem that shouldn’t go unremarked.

    He/she posted that last night was actually a piece of performance art designed to capture the essence of Bobby’s years of managing the Braves.

    Absolutely. Perfect.

    I’m not doing it justice, so I encourage the poster to repost so that we can enjoy it now that things have calmed a bit.

  25. 25
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Braves’ Conrad shouldn’t have been there – SweetSpot Blog – ESPN.

  26. 26
    sdp Says:

    Matt Diaz has a message for Braves fans…

  27. 27
    Seat Painter Says:

    Matt Diaz is good people. Period.

  28. 28
    Johnny Says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I want the Braves to advance in the post season but at the same time I am at peace if they don’t. You’re chances of winning are pretty slim if the team you have out there is the Junior Varsity. Brooks Conrad has been a MAJOR contributer to this team all season. I hate it he has last nights debacle hanging over his head. At the same time Bobby has to play either Glaus, Hinske or Hernandez in his stead tonight.

  29. 29
    Stu Says:

    23—Bobby is going after Conrad’s wife? Who are we, the Phillies?

  30. 30
    Seat Painter Says:


    Bobby must be hoping for a REALLY bad hop to kill Brooks then. Or a pop-up to pull a Canseco maybe?

  31. 31
    Timo Says:

    Someone posted this one on DOBs blog. Pretty funny and a sign of things to come…

  32. 32
    Adam M Says:

    If Bobby Cox was analogous to King David, it would, admittedly, prove that he was heinous and cruel, but at least it would also explain his rationale for having Conrad out there for that 9th inning (or 1st, for that matter). Right now I’m still stuck on the “Why????”

    It also bears mentioning that the Phillies allowed the highest scoring team in the NL to score but four runs in three games. The Phillies are really, really good, and no matter our lineup configuration and bullpen management, we are not.

  33. 33
    justhank Says:

    I dunno, I just get this feeling that if we somehow manage to make it to the NLCS, the sheer assholedry of the Phillies will get them beat.

    They’re a bunch of cheatin’, sign-stealin’, hit-batsman’ fakin’, wife-stealin’ jerks.

    It’s bound to catch up to them. (Probably against the Yankees, but, still …)

  34. 34
    Marc Schneider Says:

    I feel bad about the game but it would be much worse if this was really a World Series caliber team. The injuries pretty much killed their chances. But Wren really needs to improve the defense this offseason. Look, better players than Brooks Conrad have made key errors.

  35. 35
    Cory Says:

    What do we know about Madison Bumgarner? Has anyone watched a game that he’s pitched? What kind of stuff does he have?

    We know we can expect a big performance out of Derek Lowe if we give him the best possible infield defense, I like our chances of sending it back to San Francisco.

    Hanson vs. Lincecum: tough matchup, but let’s make it happen

  36. 36
    McGovern Says:

    @ #13
    This is the first post I’ve found promoting Diory to get the start tonight. I’m in this camp, too. If you think Conrad is trouble defensively, watch a few innings of Glaus. Diory has shown he isn’t a bad hitter, in fact has the potential to be a good hitter. Pretty tough to establish yourself, getting less than one swing a week all summer. He did prove he is capable of turning on one and going deep, and I vote we hope he is Lemke-like at second tonight, and take our chances.

  37. 37
    Bob Horner Says:

    If Kimbrel would have kept throwing fastballs to Sanchez we wouldn’t even be having this conversation!!

  38. 38
    Bethany Says:

    2010 Auburn Tigers = 2010 Atlanta Braves

    No defense, late game heroics to scrape by.

  39. 39
    spike Says:

    I dig the Uriah reference, but the use of the verb “malfeased” is a new one on me.

  40. 40
    Mike N. Says:

    Well I know that Madison Bumgarner is younger than I am and that I would be really really nervous if I was in his position, so that’s something I guess.

  41. 41
    sansho1 Says:

    Yes, the 2006 NL batting champion has never hit a good fastball.

  42. 42
    justhank Says:

    malfeased – if it’s not kosher, it should be.

  43. 43
    justhank Says:

    I didn’t mind the slider so much, but if McCann wasn’t dead certain he could locate it out of the strike zone, he shouldn’t have chanced it.

    Sooooo close.

  44. 44
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Bumgarner was one of the people we were supposedly targeting in the 2007 draft. The Giants took him ahead of us. So we took Heyward instead.

    So it’s draft day.

    I couldn’t spell Bumgarner’s name that day.

  45. 45
    Stu Says:

    Glaus starting at third tonight, per the official Twitter account.

  46. 46
    hpotter Says:

    No Raw Dog!

    Infante – 4 Diaz – 7 Lee – 3 McCann – 2 Gonzalez – 6 Heyward – 9 Glaus – 5 Ankiel – 8 Lowe – 1

  47. 47
    sansho1 Says:

    Extra side-sprints for AAG in warmups today!

  48. 48
    sdp Says:

    Let’s go Troy!

  49. 49
    csg Says:

    guess Bobby had enough of Heyward in that 2 hole

  50. 50
    ryan c Says:

    that is about the best lineup we could possibly as for. let’s tie this bad boy up!

  51. 51
    McGovern Says:

    From my Bookie:
    The Over/Under on bunt singles by the Giants is 5.
    Odds are at 7/2 in favor of Conrad’s NLDS record for defensive futility lasting only one day.

    Conrad is a below-average defender, who has lost all confidence in his abiltily to even be only below-average. Bobby made the obvious decisiion to sit him for whatever remains of the 2010 post-season, but Glaus? This is the equivaltent of removing Melky from CF, and replacing him with Kolb or Wickman.

    That said, I really feel bad for Brooks. He appears to be a great teammate, who has been a big part of a great season for the Braves. I hope he is able to come through when he gets his chance to pinch hit tonight.

  52. 52
    Johnny Says:

    I’m not surprised. Bobby had to do it. I mean lets be honest, most MLB third basemen aren’t in there becuase they can do a Brooks Robinson immitation. I sure hope Glaus has something left in his bat.

  53. 53
    Rusty S. Says:

    I agree with Sansho, I like the idea of starting with the defense, and pinch hitting if needed. The defense is on the field every inning.

    But Ankiel against a lefty and Diory in the same lineup might be too much.

    I too am skeptical Glaus will be an improvement over Conrad, but also understand that like Animal House, this requires some futile gesture be done on someone’s part.

    Here’s hoping for the best, and a big hit from Brooks late.

  54. 54
    csg Says:

    well, I hope Bobby wins his last game in ATL. Its definitely time for a change though.

  55. 55
    brule™ Says:

    Conrad is an error machine especially when it’s very important but I wouldn’t blame him. I just blame chipper and prado.

  56. 56
    Ron E. Says:

    Unless Glaus discovers the Gatorade has been replaced by the fountain of youth, I have my doubts about his ability to play 3rd for a full game. But hell why not try him? The Braves don’t have much to lose at this point. Maybe he’ll make up for his inevitably terrible range on defense by hitting a homer. If he does, it’ll be interesting to see if he makes it around the bases any faster than Kirk Gibson in ’88 or that guy who hit a homer off the Braves a few weeks back on a broken ankle.

  57. 57
    Mike N. Says:

    What if Glaus is an absolute machine tonight at third, diving all over the place, making spectacular plays? That’s whats going through my head right now.

    I’m just gonna stay in my little fantasy world until 7:30 tonight

  58. 58
    csg Says:

    I dont blame the players. I blame the scouts/FO for not being able to find some decent INF players.

    just saw this on MLB trade rumors and yes, its depressing

    “Salcedo turned pro just this summer, and hit .225/.307/.333 in 304 A-ball plate appearances. He is arguably the team’s best position player prospect due to his talent level and physical gifts”

  59. 59
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Every time I say “what if” it comes true! I said, “What if the house blows up?” and it blew up! I have this tremendous responsibility! What if I lose this power? Oh my God, I just said, “What if I lose this power?” I just had this power and I blew it!

  60. 60
    spike Says:

    @58, Salcedo was the youngest guy on the team (by 2 years, and league average is 21.5), and played well in the Dominican Summer League this year. I would place little value on those stats for a 18 yo kid’s first year in the US, let alone at an advanced level for his age.

  61. 61
    brule™ Says:

    Everyone has complained Lowe in reguler season, look at him now, he is still playing for the team in postseason. He was good or not before, I am telling as a professional, I prefer this kind of player. In my humble opinion, he is a real professional at the moment. Anyway!

  62. 62
    Tony Says:

    I’m looking for an offensive explosion tonight. Translation: 1 run before the eight inning.

  63. 63
    Joshua Says:

    I really like the lineup changes. Kudos to Bobby – I didn’t think he had it in him. Better see McClouth in there over Melky when we get to San Fran though.

  64. 64
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Hell, lets splurge and get two runs!

  65. 65
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I forgot that Lowe pitched on TWO days rest in 2004 in the ALCS. I know that was six years ago, but that’s pretty outstanding.

  66. 66
    Dix Says:

    Bobby is the king of letting a player try to redeem himself. You know it’s bad when even Bobby realizes that there’s no chance for redemption.

  67. 67
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Thinking too far ahead perhaps…does Hudson start Game 5? Bobby doesn’t seem to have the confidence in Hanson at the moment.

  68. 68
    Robert Says:

    One more round of humiliation for everybody and we’ll see you in spring training.

    If Game 2 was Bobby’s final win at least it was memorable. He even got ejected.

  69. 69
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Hanson will start with Hudson on call.

  70. 70
    Smitty Says:

    I just hope Glaus can handle it at third. I think the Braves felt Conrad had a better glove than Troy, so I am sure he won’t be much of an upgrade and third base isn’t a good spot to hide a bad glove.

  71. 71
    braves14 Says:

    I hate that AAG is batting 5th instead of Glaus. Hopefully the lineup order won’t matter too much, but I fear AAG hits into at least one double play in that spot.

  72. 72
    jdpeace Says:

    Come on Torgo!! You’re the master now!

  73. 73
    Ron E. Says:

    Glaus can catch anything hit right at him and make all the throws. He just can’t move to catch a ball, hit, or run the bases. I’ll take him for at least one game over Conrad.

  74. 74
    NickC Says:

    I have a feeling about tonight, I think we’ll get out to an early lead and hang on, filling everyone with optimism until they remember it’ll be Lincecum on Wednesday.

  75. 75
    jdpeace Says:

    I’m not sure, even without all the injuries, we’d have done much better. The merry band of fourth outfielders, a diminished Chipper, an exhausted hobbled Heyward, and Gonzo the Submazing might have killed us all the same.

    Still, we’ve been in this series duct taped together. As upset as I am about the players who are meant to be on the front lines and are clearly not up to it, I also have a kind of grungy, stray dog affection for what’s on the field. It’s not really a lovable team, but it’s a pitiable one. A little pity is keeping me from the larger disgust. In that way the injuries have actually made them watchable. If we’d gone down in flames fully staffed it would really have drove me up the wall. This leaves a pleasant what-if after-taste and the team wins points for gumption.

  76. 76
    Brian J. Says:

    Yeah, I’ve got to imagine it’ll be Hanson on a very short leash for Game 5 ITIO, with Hudson, Beachy, everyone else in the bullpen, and Ankiel to warm up whenever the Giants get their second baserunner.

    Of course, while ditching the Folk Goat is important, hopefully Bobby makes sure to tell everyone not to swing at everything the way they have. It’s not been a good strategy, and if we can get away from it, we can surprise Bumgarner and then Lincecum. (Maybe that was the plan, to lull them into complacency…)

  77. 77
    Bethany Says:

    When you step back, it is remarkable how close we’ve played this series.

  78. 78
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away.

  79. 79
    Joe Defeens Says:

    all curses are off!!!!!!

  80. 80
    sdp Says:

    Uh oh.

  81. 81
    Brian J. Says:

    80- Oh joy. Can we finally play Diory now?

  82. 82
    Ethan Says:

    80–If it weren’t so tragic, the situation would be laughable.

  83. 83
    Dan Says:

    Can the Braves take an early lead for once? Feels like forever since their last lead after, say, four innings of play.

    Hopefully there will be a game five.

  84. 84
    Stu Says:

    80—He’s just lulling the competition to sleep.

  85. 85
    jdpeace Says:

    Hit the Bull Torgo!!

  86. 86
    DowneasterJC Says:


    Unless you’re Japanese. He still hasn’t forgiven them for Pearl Harbor, apparently.

  87. 87
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Can we put Hinske in at third?

  88. 88
    jdpeace Says:

    Speaking of which if we are going out tonight someone needs to be designated to do this to Emmel.

  89. 89
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Also, today the Mets interviewed Allard Baird, the former GM of the Royals, to replace Omar Minaya.

    I want this to happen so badly.

  90. 90
    Catz Says:

    Brooks Conrad is 30 years old? I found that surprising.

  91. 91
    Stu Says:

    Conrad, assigned to catch the ceremonial first pitch, apparently let it get by him. Seriously. Poor Brooks.

  92. 92
    Tennessee Brave Says:

    Things we know about Madison Bumgarner:

    – He has a name better suited to a sorority girl than a baseball player.

  93. 93
    braves14 Says:

    83 — An early lead? What is that?

  94. 94
    braves14 Says:

    92 — It sounds like a female porn star name to me.

    Good first inning.

  95. 95
    NickC Says:

    They look pumped up for this. Finally.

  96. 96
    Brian J. Says:

    94- Actually, I was sure it was a man’s name, and very appropriate for his home city.

  97. 97
    stupup74 Says:

    Good start to the 1st.

    Looks like Agon will earn his money tonight at SS

  98. 98
    Brian J. Says:

    And Derrek Lee at 1B. How many errors has he already prevented this series?

  99. 99
    sdp Says:

    Heyward is hung like a horse.

  100. 100
    jdpeace Says:

    @99 Did he send a dong pic to Emmel?

  101. 101
    rehabreject Says:

    Tim McCarver: “Even though Buster has had 5 hits this series, his body language seems to say he should get more”


  102. 102
    Joe Defeens Says:

    conrad comes off the bench tonight and homers to win the game!!

  103. 103
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Very classy of Pat Burrell.

  104. 104
    braves14 Says:

    101 — It’s Bob Brenly FWIW.

  105. 105
    sdp Says:

    What the hell is gotten into Lowe?

    It warmed me up a little inside to see Burrell encouraging Conrad like that.

  106. 106
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Lowe looks good!

  107. 107
    Dan Says:

    Very classy of Pat Burrell.

    Pat Burrell knows a fellow bad fielder when he sees one.

  108. 108
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    That’s the fourth ball we’ve hit hard, right at someone. For what it’s worth.

  109. 109
    Brian J. Says:

    Nice to see Heyward snap out of it.

  110. 110
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Alex, you don’t get to complain about a high strike after swinging and missing at a pitch around your eyeballs on the previous pitch.

    There ya go, Jason! Welcome to the playoffs!

  111. 111
    stupup74 Says:

    Winters’ zone is jumping around.

  112. 112
    RobBroad4th Says:

    @107, Ha!

    Atta boy Jason.

  113. 113
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Alright! Finally, we’re not the only guys who suck at defense!

  114. 114
    RobBroad4th Says:

    It’s the Giants turn to have a sloppy game.

  115. 115
    Adam R Says:

    Hahahaha. Glaus got to the bag years after the ump ruled Heyward safe.

  116. 116
    braves14 Says:

    LOL Brenly it’s hard to turn a DP when there are 2 outs.

  117. 117
    Dan Says:

    “Double play ball”?

  118. 118
    braves14 Says:

    The Giants have gotten every borderline call in this series it seems.

  119. 119
    DowneasterJC Says:

    So Bumgarner is looking wild. I predict at least 12 Ks by the Braves, 8 swinging.

  120. 120
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    And Derek, with all the self-awareness of Alex Gonzalez, swings at the first pitch after the guy walks the bases loaded.

  121. 121
    RobBroad4th Says:


  122. 122
    braves14 Says:

    At least we cleared the pitcher.

  123. 123
    NickC Says:

    #119, he isn’t looking wild, he was just pitching to Ankiel.

  124. 124
    sdp Says:

    Man, Lowe is on.

  125. 125
    drewdat Says:

    I wonder if Bob Brenly ever confuses himself with Bruce Bochy.

    I wonder if Mike Winters ever wears Giants apparel.

  126. 126
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I’d forgotten, but Winters is the guy who cursed out Milton Bradley a couple of years ago.

    So he’s antagonized a fanbase before.

  127. 127
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Boom, Omar!

    By the way, that second pitch was clearly, obviously a strike. So that’s at least one call that went in the Braves’ favor.

  128. 128
    drewdat Says:

    Nice, Matty.

  129. 129
    Brian J. Says:

    The breaks are finally going our way. Now for a big hit, please…

  130. 130
    RobBroad4th Says:

    We’re squaring the ball up tonight.

  131. 131
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Did one of the announcers just say that Bobby Cox hates to sacrifice bunt at any time? Has he ever SEEN the Braves play?

  132. 132
    John Gaines Says:


    Yes, yes he did.

    I would rule that an announcing erra.

  133. 133
    braves14 Says:

    Hey, a run!

  134. 134
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Woo hoo!

  135. 135
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I think he was announcing reality as I wish it existed, rather than as it truly is.

  136. 136
    Brian J. Says:

    Well, we scored the run and that’s the important part.

  137. 137
    Askia Says:

    Solid baseball there. The way Lowe is going, one run is good.

  138. 138
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    That’s the earliest that the Braves have scored a run in over a week, since the last game of the season.

  139. 139
    drewdat Says:

    “The home crowd always boos throws to first base.”

    Where else can you get analysis like this?

  140. 140
    Askia Says:

    Hitting the ball solidly tonight. We’re going to win this game.

  141. 141
    urlhix Says:

    We’re fightin’, that’s what I want to see.


  142. 142
    stupup74 Says:

    Swing the bat Jason

    Edit, At the fastball down the middle, not the curve ball.

    I know Jason is patient and everything, but dang it, know the situation and look for a fastball and let it rip.

  143. 143
    braves14 Says:

    God, Heyward is cold.

  144. 144
    Brian J. Says:

    That just might be the least horizontal distance I’ve ever seen for a batted ball. Posey was standing in the batter’s box to catch it.

  145. 145
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I remember when Heyward got hits on purpose. Kid doesn’t look right.

  146. 146
    sdp Says:

    Bob Brenly keeps calling Derek Lowe, “Derek Lee”

  147. 147
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Kid’s just a kid. He’ll be okay from 2011-2028.

  148. 148
    Dan Says:

    Another Braves erra.

  149. 149
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Erra erraa HI my name is…

  150. 150
    braves14 Says:

    Let’s give the lead right back.

  151. 151
    braves14 Says:

    Yes! Great tag.

  152. 152
    drewdat Says:

    Posey by a mile.

  153. 153
    urlhix Says:

    Hell of a play.

  154. 154
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Can we call errors Stocktons, the same way we call outs Poseys?

    Torres was so Posey!

  155. 155
    Catz Says:

    That was beautiful.

  156. 156
    Brian J. Says:

    McCann’s thrown out every runner trying to steal (except for the Emmel/ Posey tag team).

  157. 157
    csg Says:

    good thing Bmac brought his arm with him to this series

  158. 158
    Rufino Linares Says:

    McCann has been throwing the ball so well this series. I have really been impressed. The short hop/throw to third the other night was remarkable.

  159. 159
    CourtneyC Says:

    Lowe is earning his money tonight.

  160. 160
    rehabreject Says:

    Glaus reached on an erra….

  161. 161
    Dan Says:

    I don’t want to trade Lowe this offseason.

  162. 162
    Stu Says:

    I do. For Ryan Braun.

  163. 163
    SJG Says:


  164. 164
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I would trade him for Jacoby Ellsbury.

  165. 165
    csg Says:

    you trade Lowe to anyone who will take that contract. Id trade him for nothing

  166. 166
    Rufino Linares Says:

    I still say Buster Posey is Neidermeyer from Animal House. I’m really disliking that guy.

  167. 167
    Brian J. Says:

    Glaus makes the play. Hooray!

  168. 168
    braves14 Says:

    A perfect throw from Glaus!

  169. 169
    csg Says:

    Glaus nice throw

  170. 170
    FUWren Says:

    OK now D Lowe we got you your run. Should be more than plenty.

  171. 171
    SJG Says:

    Glaus is the next Vinny Castilla

  172. 172
    SJG Says:

    holyyyyy, what a sinker he has

  173. 173
    csg Says:

    6 pitch inning with a K is always nice…

  174. 174
    Stu Says:

    I believe it is a mistake for Bochy to let Bumgarner face the top of our order again.

  175. 175
    JoeyT Says:

    I take back everything I ever said about Lowe being only an average pitcher while with the Braves.

    He’s figured something out. Those balls look like they’re going to be strikes, then end up two inches out of the zone. Now I remember why I was excited when he was signed.

  176. 176
    Stu Says:

    I believe Omar and Matt make me look foolish.

  177. 177
    FUWren Says:

    This guy hasn’t really thrown a single offspeed pitch in the zone. Just sit dead red.

  178. 178
    Brian J. Says:

    171- Sadly, our hitters disagree.

  179. 179
    ryan c Says:

    dlee is about to smoke one…to right field and fall a little short of the warning track.

  180. 180
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Do they have some drunk guy miked up or something?

  181. 181
    FUWren Says:

    Here’s my quick list of things more useless than D Lee:

  182. 182
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Wormer, he’s a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer…

  183. 183
    ryan c Says:

    here’s my list of things that’s stupider than your post:

  184. 184
    Stu Says:

    I dig the Emmel-like outside corner on that last pitch.

  185. 185
    Brian J. Says:

    Braves Killer kills again.

  186. 186
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Braves killer. Shit.

  187. 187
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:


  188. 188
    Catz Says:

    Braves Killer strikes again….

  189. 189
    jj3bagger Says:

    Commando Fuckin Cody.

  190. 190
    brule™ Says:

    still supid offense. Lowe can complete this game if the offense suppport him. He is a emotional guy. Use him, braves. We can save pitchers. Commmon.

  191. 191
    braves14 Says:

    I hate Commando Cody.

  192. 192
    Stu Says:

    I don’t much care for Cody Ross. Or the Marlins.

  193. 193
    JoeyT Says:

    Crap. This game’s going to go past 4 AM, isn’t it?

  194. 194
    ryan c Says:

    note to frank wren: please sign cody ross next year.

  195. 195
    sdp Says:

    What a piece of shit.

  196. 196
    drewdat Says:

    I hate the Marlins. Contract Florida and move Tampa somewhere else. And don’t give Loria any kind of compensation, just stiff him.

  197. 197
    Tom O. Says:


    then trade him irrevocably to a team in japan.

  198. 198
    JoeyT Says:

    @194, you can’t do that. However, you can trade him to the Royals, which would make him just about as relevant.

  199. 199
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Not even a trip to Japan prevented us from signing Chris Resop again. I think we need something more permanent. Like carbonite.

  200. 200
    Adam M Says:

    But then the Royals would inevitably trade him at the deadline when they’re 30 games back.

  201. 201
    drewdat Says:

    That was really an easy call. Was the consultation necessary? I’m not going to give them any credit for it.

  202. 202
    Bethany Says:

    Lowe looks amazing. I hate Cody Ross.

  203. 203
    Stu Says:

    I am irrationally angry about the way Ross flipped his bat, post-swing, too.

    I hate the Marlins.

  204. 204
    braves14 Says:

    Okay, we need runs now.

  205. 205
    Adam M Says:

    What makes it all the more galling is that Ross is basically Melky against right-handed pitchers. But it doesn’t matter against the Braves: he hits everyone.

  206. 206
    ryan c Says:

    if you post the word “runs” with a z, it will happen.

  207. 207
    Rufino Linares Says:

    I really wish MNF would hurry up and start so I don’t have to sit through these damn commercials again. Who in the hell cares at all about fucking avocados?

  208. 208
    Brian J. Says:


  209. 209
    drewdat Says:


  210. 210
    Bethany Says:


  211. 211
    JoeyT Says:

    He wastes no time getting that run back. Awesome.

  212. 212
    ryan c Says:


  213. 213
    Dan Says:

    Suck that, Cody Ross.

  214. 214
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Could we maybe just crush Ross’s spirit? Like, buy his mother’s house and foreclose on her, then run over his cat, then smear dog poop on his Little League trophies, then frame him for murder?


  215. 215
    Catz Says:

    In McCann We Trust.

  216. 216
    Stu Says:

    Run and tell that, homeboy!

  217. 217
    urlhix Says:

    Crush that!!!

  218. 218
    Adam R Says:


  219. 219
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Woooooooooooooooo I love BMac

  220. 220
    Bethany Says:

    @204 I love avocados.

  221. 221
    ryan c Says:

    it worked once…7 BACK TO BACK HOMERS PLEASE!

  222. 222
    James Says:

    Watching AAG flail away like that is almost hilarious.

  223. 223
    Adam M Says:

    Is it possible AAG is batting 5th because he’s right-handed? I ask because he’s got a .224/.270/.421 line against lefties this year.

  224. 224
    RobBroad4th Says:

    A Gon swings like he lost a bet sometimes.

  225. 225
    Brian J. Says:

    Mr. Heyward demonstrates the takeout slide for those of us at home.

  226. 226
    JoeyT Says:

    Heyward took away the double play. I don’t see that often in the bigs.

  227. 227
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Wow, that’s a hell of a takeout slide. Totally clean, but totally up in his grill.

  228. 228
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Nice job on the slide!

  229. 229
    Adam M Says:

    Heyward cleared Ankiel.

  230. 230
    drewdat Says:

    That was awesome, but AAG is either slow or doesn’t care. Way too close of a play at first with that turn.

    Oh, it was Glaus. Makes sense.

  231. 231
    ryan c Says:

    how long do you let lowe go?

  232. 232
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Hilarious how close that was- is Glaus actually running or is he sliding along a slime trail to first?

  233. 233
    James Says:

    God how slow is Glaus if Heyward takes out Sanchez and it’s still a close play at first.

  234. 234
    drewdat Says:

    That pitch was horrible. Second strike, called. Nowhere close.

  235. 235
    Stu Says:

    You know what happens, leading off the bottom of the 7th? A Brooks Conrad pinch-hit appearance, that’s what.

  236. 236
    Johnny Says:

    Lowe has looked good. But he has been pitching out of a few 3 ball counts lately.

    Hang in there Derreck.

  237. 237
    Catz Says:

    That’s a ball Conrad doesn’t catch.

  238. 238
    Rufino Linares Says:

    GIDP, please, you sneaky little shit…

  239. 239
    DowneasterJC Says:

    How many social events i’ve been to where guacamole was served: approximately zero.

    What a stupid commercial.

  240. 240
    RobBroad4th Says:

    @232, I wouldn’t be surprised if he pinch runs for Glaus.

  241. 241
    Rusty S. Says:

    @229 – nice one.

  242. 242
    brule™ Says:

    posey is a good player.

  243. 243
    Adam M Says:

    Well this is interesting.

  244. 244
    drewdat Says:

    Gamechanging moment there. Lowe stays in.

    Follow through, Derek.

  245. 245
    Catz Says:

    @236 – Guacamole is the best… you are missing out

  246. 246
    Stu Says:

    Wow. Do it, DLowe.

  247. 247
    ryan c Says:

    i’m not sure i’ve ever seen that from cox.

  248. 248
    Tom O. Says:

    i want lowe right now. go down fighting.

  249. 249
    Adam M Says:

    I admit that I like Moylan here. We’ll see.

  250. 250
    James Says:

    That might have been a mistake.

  251. 251
    Bethany Says:


  252. 252
    drewdat Says:

    Die Mike Winters.

  253. 253
    basil Says:

    @ 232: Diory Hernandez has been limbering up in the dugout. Now he’s holding a bat.

    Conrad’s just sitting there.

  254. 254
    Adam M Says:

    Stockton just compared Cox to Grady Little. Ouch.

  255. 255
    James Says:

    Bullshit call.

  256. 256
    braves14 Says:

    Is there any doubt that the umpires have money on the Giants?

  257. 257
    RobBroad4th Says:

    That’s the most emotion I’ve seen from him in a Braves uniform.

  258. 258
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Damn. That looked a lot like strike two, but Derek couldn’t find the plate on the first three pitches.

    Okay, Moylan, you better be alright.

  259. 259
    drewdat Says:

    Winters, you can have a lot quicker influence on the game if you just start calling balks. Four times as effective. Try it.

  260. 260
    Bethany Says:

    A guy pitches like Lowe has tonight, and you don’t call that? Bullshit.

  261. 261
    Rufino Linares Says:

    In the movie that nobody would ever make about this 2010 Braves team, Lowe wouldn’t have walked the guy there. Given up a bomb, struck him out, or induced the DP, sure. But a walk? Just seems like something more climactic should have happened…

  262. 262
    Adam M Says:

    The one big weakness of the pen is control. This is an awfully tough spot.

  263. 263
    MikeM Says:

    C’mon Pete….

  264. 264
    Stu Says:

    I would gladly take a sac fly right here. Gladly.

  265. 265
    James Says:

    Brenly just felt the need to explain that homer runs with the bases loaded were also grand slams.

  266. 266
    Tom O. Says:

    dig deep, pete

  267. 267
    drewdat Says:

    Oh my God, these umps.

    He was out. ON THE BAG. The audacity after whichever moron Giant was off the bag at first the other night. Why are these morons still employed? Why are they allowed their freedom? Nursing home please, stat.

  268. 268
    Brian J. Says:

    Sigh. And ticky-tack kills us in the end.

  269. 269
    Bethany Says:

    Dammit, he was out.

  270. 270
    braves14 Says:

    I’m sick of this umpire bullshit.

  271. 271
    James Says:

    Awesome, more bullshit.

  272. 272
    Dan Says:

    Another error.

  273. 273
    Adam M Says:

    No, he was safe.

  274. 274
    RobBroad4th Says:

    What a nightmare.

  275. 275
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    My impression of Bobby Cox’s bullpen management.

  276. 276
    stupup74 Says:

    Well, we fought hard.

  277. 277
    Stu Says:

    We’re just not going to get any close calls in this series.

  278. 278
    se1915 Says:

    If he was safe there, every double play turned at second is bullshit.

  279. 279
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Looked out to me.

  280. 280
    Adam M Says:

    I will say that it was so close that they usually give it to the defense. Not these umps though.

  281. 281
    drewdat Says:

    Omar was on the bag. It was freaking obvious. Ump is right there. Maybe he was blinded by Buster Posey’s hype.

    Posey again at second, seriously umps? Please retire.

  282. 282
    NickC Says:

    #270, he was out. Toe still on the bag.

  283. 283
    Bethany Says:

    He was out. It’s the same thing as the Huff call at first, and we get the short end of both.

  284. 284
    Rufino Linares Says:

    The precedent is there, a million times over, with the “phantom tag” you see on just about every double play. Not to mention that the tip of his toe was still on the bag. He was Posey.

  285. 285
    Tom O. Says:

    i’m watching on my computer with no replay. how close was it? like posey at second? or actually close?

  286. 286
    Dan Says:

    Later Bobby….

  287. 287
    drewdat Says:

    It’s not even a neighborhood tag. Foot was on the freaking bag, unlike the other day with Huff at first base, where he was obviously off. These umps need shooting.

  288. 288
    jdpeace Says:

    Toe still on the bag. On the replay an obvious out.

  289. 289
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    You know, I never thought I’d see worse defense than the 2006 Detroit Tigers in the World Series.

    However, that was not an error. The runner was actually out, per the replay. It was a close play, but on a close play, when the throw beats the runner, you give deference to the fielder. Also, because Alex Gonzalez’s foot was touching the bag when he caught the ball, it would have been the correct call. We can’t have nice things.

  290. 290
    braves14 Says:

    I’m ready for the computers to take over.

  291. 291
    Stu Says:

    284—Instead, they will get contractual raises and retire as old, rich men.

  292. 292
    csg Says:

    need the good venters here

  293. 293
    drewdat Says:

    I will personally donate large sums of money to anyone willing to create robotic umpires and send the clowns to the street corner.

  294. 294
    csg Says:

    should be out of the inning…4 outs are hard to make

    esp, with Ross coming up

  295. 295
    Dan Says:

    That should be the end of the inning.

  296. 296
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

  297. 297
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Out 4.

  298. 298
    csg Says:

    hell of a throw, but I hate Cody Ross

  299. 299
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    For once, McCann blocks the plate, literally making it impossible for the umpire to call Burrell safe.

  300. 300
    braves14 Says:

    That 3rd run should never have happened.

  301. 301
    Stu Says:

    So, that’s another run on the umpires.

    Can the Giants beat us without the umps’ help? I say no.

  302. 302
    drewdat Says:

    Seriously, this is like the fake Togo soccer team. When does the real umpiring crew for our series show up? Hopefully soon, because the series is almost over.

    Thanks for the third run, you douches. The Giants really haven’t caught enough breaks yet this series.

  303. 303
    Catz Says:

    of course

  304. 304
    sdp Says:


    Hell of an effort this year. This blows.

  305. 305
    jdpeace Says:

    Giants 2 Braves 2 Umps 1

  306. 306
    Tom O. Says:

    as a side note:

    if MLB trusts the computers to discipline umpires on their strike zone (see: QuesTec) then why is it that they can’t be trusted to call the actual game? on the other hand, it’s way better to have the human element than to call anything correctly.

  307. 307
    JoeyT Says:

    Good play by McCann at least. Sigh.

  308. 308
    Adam M Says:

    I turned around on the call after the replay: he was out. It’s amazing what replay can do.

  309. 309
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Serious question: who got more screwed by umpires, the 2010 Braves in the NLDS, or the 2010 USA soccer team in the World Cup?

  310. 310
    RobBroad4th Says:

    B Mac is the man. Helluva block.

  311. 311
    Stu Says:

    Nobody will even be talking about these umpires, three days from now, even though we’ll always remember 2010 like we remember 1997.

  312. 312
    stupup74 Says:

    3 innings to get a run.

    Diory Hernandez batting leadoff, what could possibly go wrong?

  313. 313
    Johnny Says:

    Dammit Cody Ross again!!!!!

    Tough to call the AAG play to Infante an error. IMHO I thought Omar came off the bag.

  314. 314
    Adam M Says:

    306–the Braves. The US Soccer team ultimately advanced anyway, and lost legitimately.

  315. 315
    Dan Says:

    The human erra makes baseball fun.

  316. 316
    drewdat Says:

    Human element is fine until it craps all over your playoff series. Prefer the non-crapping robots. At least instant replay? Maybe rig Brett Favre up with a camera phone taking pics of the plays, how could it go wrong?

  317. 317
    csg Says:

    I can understand a missed call. I cant understand 10 missed calls

  318. 318
    JoeyT Says:

    @311, well, the Braves could still advance, which would make that a tie.

  319. 319
    braves14 Says:

    All for the Giants.

  320. 320
    Tom O. Says:

    the thing that’s crazy is that it takes all of about 10 seconds to look at a replay. and if you really think it takes that long, limit the challenges.

    just do something. for crying out loud.

  321. 321
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Already impressed with this at bat.

  322. 322
    csg Says:

    dang that was ball 4, hes battling though

  323. 323
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Adam, as far as it goes, that’s true. But the 2010 USA soccer team literally had about 3 goals stolen from them, and considering the rarity of goals in soccer, I’d argue that had an even greater impact on scoring than the bad umpiring in this series.

    If not for the Landon Donovan miracle goal, the refereeing would have been the ONLY story.

  324. 324
    JoeyT Says:

    Yeah, he’s doing a good job. Also like the hustle on the eventual foul.

  325. 325
    Tom O. Says:

    for those of you scoring, diory is forcing more pitches than most of our lineup right now.

  326. 326
    Dan Says:

    Diory sucks.

  327. 327
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Damn damn damn.

  328. 328
    c. shorter Says:

    time for a little Melktober magic

  329. 329
    Adam M Says:

    Why is Melky Cabrera hitting? WTF?

  330. 330
    braves14 Says:

    I love how these announcers are pretending the umpire blunders didn’t happen.

  331. 331
    c. shorter Says:

    that was pretty magical

  332. 332
    drewdat Says:

    Finally thought of the one-liner:

    These umps need to pull Buster Posey’s plank out of their own eyes.

  333. 333
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Die alone, Melky.

  334. 334
    James Says:

    Why would you ever make a sign for Melky?

  335. 335
    Stu Says:

    Bobby has absolutely no idea that Diaz is a superior defender to Melky.

  336. 336
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Why not Hinske god damn it

  337. 337
    BobinNC Says:

    Melky = We have officially given up.

  338. 338
    braves14 Says:

    326 — Bobby’s ready to go home.

  339. 339
    JoeyT Says:

    I do not understand Melky there. Is he really better than Diaz against RHP? Really?

  340. 340
    csg Says:

    when was the last time Melky took a pitch? and when was the last time he actually squared up a baseball?

  341. 341
    drewdat Says:

    Also, the umps have done enough Bobby, no need to pile on by hitting Diory and Melky in the same inning.

  342. 342
    brule™ Says:

    speechless cabrera

  343. 343
    John Gaines Says:


    Apparently, Bobby wants to make sure we see some erras in the outfield as well.

  344. 344
    Rusty S. Says:

    @ 329 – There are a lot of things they need to pull out of a lot of places.

  345. 345
    braves14 Says:

    I miss Yunel.

  346. 346
    Tom O. Says:

    how about that one? safe or out?

  347. 347
    Stu Says:

    It would be nice if the announcers would acknowledge how screwed the Braves have been by the umpires. Or at least acknowledge a *single* instance where we were screwed. They just ignore it all, though.

  348. 348
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I miss Jeff Blauser.

    He was safe. Ball arrived at the exact same time as his foot.

  349. 349
    Stu Says:

    I miss Eric Gregg.

  350. 350
    stupup74 Says:

    The giants have gotten every borderline call in this series, and some quite frankly that weren’t that close.

  351. 351
    Adam M Says:

    Nothing will change the fact that Bochy is a moron, though. We’ll always have that.

  352. 352
    Catz Says:

    Why the HELL is Melky in the game?

  353. 353
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I miss umpires with eyes.

  354. 354
    BobinNC Says:

    Is Francisco Cabrera available to pinch hit? At this point I would take Joe Simpson coming out of the booth over these clowns.

  355. 355
    csg Says:

    Tom, it was close. However, every, EVERY, close call has gone against the Braves

  356. 356
    NickH Says:

    Just keep in mind – even if we win tonight, Game 5 is against Lincecum in San Fran. And the winner gets to face Philly, and Halladay at least twice.

  357. 357
    Adam M Says:

    As a nod towards his impending legacy, Bobby Cox will now use all of the remaining pitchers in his bullpen before the Giants finally make their 27th out.

  358. 358
    Tom O. Says:

    @352: no joke. this is the first one i’ve had to watch on the computer. you couldn’t count all the blown calls in this series on two hands.

  359. 359
    csg Says:

    Johnny is all over the place

  360. 360
    Rob Cope Says:

    I’m at the game and the place is still rockin’. There’s also a pretty strong anti-Brooks sentiment around here.

  361. 361
    Rusty S. Says:

    @320 – Isn’t this soccer? :)

  362. 362
    sdp Says:

    Venters is gassed.

  363. 363
    Adam M Says:

    Out of curiosity, has anyone watched the Tampa-Texas series? I saw Crawford rung up on a pitch at least a foot outside, and really high to boot. The umpiring across the board has been insanely bad in these playoffs. Selig, however, is busy collecting his materials for his memoirs (I know this for a fact) and could probably care less.

  364. 364
    csg Says:

    nice play AAG

  365. 365
    Adam M Says:

    That was a helluva play by Gonzalez.

  366. 366
    stupup74 Says:

    2 innings to get a run.

  367. 367
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I think Stockton’s an old-school guy, in the sense that he’s from an “erra” before replay, when players or managers might jaw about a call but the umpires were generally presumed to be the source of truth — and it was seen as distasteful to harp on a call. Now that we have precise camera angles and instant replay, there is such a thing as objective truth, and part of an announcer’s job is to call that part of the game too. Jim Powell does a very good job of this, and he’s from a younger generation. Stockton’s just a blah guy who grew up in an earlier time.

    That’s about the nicest way I could put it. I could just say that he’s an uninteresting announcer who adds absolutely nothing of value other than not being Chip Caray, which would be entirely correct.

  368. 368
    c. shorter Says:

    Adam – you know for a fact? Is someone in the department helping out?

  369. 369
    csg Says:

    umps havent been bad just in the playoffs, Ive never seen a season where every ump just looks incompetent. You cant even look their way without getting tossed either

  370. 370
    drewdat Says:

    Stockton is past his time. Not saying he ever had a time, mind you, but just assuming that he did, it has past.

  371. 371
    Tom O. Says:


    totally agreed. i can’t wait til that erra of announcers retires. we’re getting close.

  372. 372
    BobinNC Says:

    It’s time for Derrek to earn his salary.
    Edit: It’s time for Derrek to give his salary back.
    Can anyone besides McCann hit the damn ball??!!
    That’s great – take out the only guy hitting the ball.
    We’ll hit into a DP anyway.
    Bobby must want to get home before 11:00.

  373. 373
    John Gaines Says:

    It would’ve been great if Kid Rock simply wasn’t born to begin with.

  374. 374
    Adam M Says:

    365–Yep. Believe it or not, he’s about to have his own office and PA in our department to assist in the task. I think he’s going to establish a chair in “Sports History” too. Weird, I know.

  375. 375
    c. shorter Says:

    371 — Wow.

  376. 376
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Yes, Brian!

  377. 377
    Adam M Says:

    That may have been the last time we see our best player this year. I just want to say… it was another awesome year for BMac.

  378. 378
    Rufino Linares Says:

    About time a ground ball gets through for the Braves. Seems like everything the Giants hit has eyes.

  379. 379
    Tom O. Says:

    i hate we have to have someone run for BMac. right move, but hate it.

  380. 380
    RobBroad4th Says:

    These games are taking years off my life.

  381. 381
    Stu Says:

    Great season, Brian. As always.

  382. 382
    Adam M Says:

    Just hang one to Gonzalez. Come on.

  383. 383
    Rusty S. Says:

    Unless McClouth is stealing, I think it’s more likely we will need McCann later, than that this is going to make a difference.

    Ok, McCann doesn’t get to 2nd, but he has to score to make a difference.

  384. 384
    drewdat Says:

    AAG, run, you bitch.

  385. 385
    Tom O. Says:

    one break. thank you.

  386. 386
    Stu Says:

    OK, Jason, don’t suck.

  387. 387
    Adam M Says:

    Did he not run?

  388. 388
    csg Says:

    if only AAG had been running

  389. 389
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Nice hustle, Agony. Is that why they were booing?

  390. 390
    braves14 Says:

    Well, Heyward is just going to strike out or hit a harmless popup on the other Javy Lopez.

  391. 391
    IthacaBraves Says:

    Why was Alex Gonzalez thrown out by 45 feet on that play?

  392. 392
    BobinNC Says:

    Don’t they teach you in little league to run as soon as you hit the ball or am I mistaken?
    Maybe Jason can get an HBP.

  393. 393
    csg Says:

    and we traded Yunel for what reason?

  394. 394
    stupup74 Says:

    I would love to see a replay to see if Gonzalez ran out of the box.

    Kid, Look for a fastball, and let it rip

    Thank you tbs, you should exactly why Agon does not need to be back next year.

  395. 395
    Brian J. Says:

    Apparently not, or else he couldn’t have been thrown out by 30 feet.

  396. 396
    Rufino Linares Says:

    How do the announcers completely ignore that AAG couldn’t be bothered to fucking run that play out? I hope someone on the bench tears him a new one for that crap.

  397. 397
    drewdat Says:

    Hopefully that will be the impetus to trade Gonzalez in the offseason. Hell, toss in the errors in this game, even though one was the blown call. Just need him gone.

  398. 398
    Brian J. Says:

    AAG, you dipsh**.

  399. 399
    Adam M Says:

    Nope. He didn’t run.

  400. 400
    csg Says:

    nope, they just showed it. He was standing at home plate until Edgar dropped it

  401. 401
    Factory Jones Says:

    Hustle you jack nuts. The difference between us and them is frustrating.

  402. 402
    Adam M Says:

    Lopez is death on lefties. And Heyward doesn’t hit them well.

  403. 403
    Stu Says:

    Well, he started to run, then stopped. I don’t think it’s very different from what 99% of runners in baseball do in that situation. I mean, it should have been caught.

  404. 404
    Frank Says:

    No he did not run.

  405. 405
    csg Says:

    Heyward is awful right now

  406. 406
    sdp Says:

    Heyward is gassed.

  407. 407
    Catz Says:

    Heyward needs to stop doing that.

  408. 408
    Adam R Says:

    The ump really expanded his zone with the first pitch called strike. But yeah, he looks done.

  409. 409
    Stu Says:

    Heyward’s 2-4 tonight. He was put in a hole on a bad strike-1 call. (What a surprise.) It was probably over from there, though.

  410. 410
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    It should have been caught. But he should have been busting his ass. He’ll have plenty of time not to run, starting tomorrow.

  411. 411
    James Says:


  412. 412
    drewdat Says:

    We didn’t know it was a damn show. We thought it was a damn fight.

    Gotta run, but my final word will be… replay.

  413. 413
    joshua Says:

    Almost every single major leaguer does not run on that play. It’s not like it was a fly ball someone had to chase down.

  414. 414
    Adam M Says:

    Cox is trying to kill Venters! It’s his final act!

  415. 415
    csg Says:

    we lose the first game on an Ump missing an easy call
    we lose the 3rd game on Brooks 3 erras and Bobby being Bobby
    we are about to lose this game on the 3-4 missed calls by the umps

    suck it San Fran, the Phils will embarass you

  416. 416
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    More Venters, wow.

  417. 417
    csg Says:

    Bobby with his best Dusty Baker impression

  418. 418
    Steven Says:

    Screencap of blown call in the 7th.

  419. 419
    csg Says:

    hey Bobby, Huff hits lefties

  420. 420
    Adam M Says:

    Huff has four hits in this series… all of them off the Braves left-handed relievers. Think about that for a moment.

    Then think about this: Cox left Venters in to face Huff, because Huff is left-handed. Again.

  421. 421
    drewdat Says:

    I guess these will be my final words:

    Yeah, guys, we probably should give Alex Gonzalez the benefit of the doubt. Not like he’s ever not hustled before.

  422. 422
    Tom O. Says:

    i’m gonna save my phillies-nlcs comments until we finally lose this.

  423. 423
    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    You know what, through all of the crap that was the 2010 season, I think I kind of like this team. Give me one more inning boys, I’m not ready for winter yet.

  424. 424
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Not looking forward to all the grief coming my way from all the Giant fans.

  425. 425
    Tony Says:

    3 more outs until this is over…at least McCann showed for the series.

  426. 426
    stupup74 Says:

    419 – Hell yeah.

    Edit: One more inning to get a run.

  427. 427
    MikeM Says:

    Ugh, what could make sthis worse? Oh yeah, Kid Rock during commercial breaks.

  428. 428
    brule™ Says:

    I stayed up all night. Stupid stupid braves.

  429. 429
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Fuck San Francisco. Allen GInsberg is overrated. Most of that hippie music is unlistenable. Jefferson Starship is an abomination. Everything that San Francisco is famous for — Dirty Harry, Steve McQueen movies, Haight-Ashbury, the Mission District, Castro Street — is worse than it seemed back in the acid haze of the ’60s and ’70s. The entire city is a pale imitation of a place where people think they’re better than you.

  430. 430
    csg Says:

    just blow Posey away with fastballs please

  431. 431
    Tom O. Says:

    i’m with 419 and 422.

  432. 432
    DowneasterJC Says:

    AAG sucks. Why is anybody defending him?

  433. 433
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Conrad or Hinske to pinch hit next inning?

  434. 434
    urlhix Says:

    I’m sorry, but AAG gave away an out there. And it was total BS for TBS not to show it until after the break.

  435. 435
    csg Says:


  436. 436
    Stu Says:

    I wish Farnz would sprint out of the ‘pen, right now, and just start taking umpires out.

  437. 437
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Man I love watching Kimbrel pitch. He’s like a good Marmol.

  438. 438
    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    425 – the opposition is irrelevant though. This braves team never had a chance, probably shouldn’t be here in the first place and would have stood no chance in the NLCS. But they are here, should probably have won the series and most importantly, I love em.

  439. 439
    'Rissa Says:

    I came into this series thrilled to be here, thinking we didn’t really have a chance to advance, but secretly hoping I was just being pessimistic and the Braves would surprise me. Even with that expectation, this hurts. It would have been easier if we’d been blown out in every game and we could just point to the injuries we’ve had and keep an at-least-we-got-there attitude. But being in every game and losing as we have and having the umps help them beat us…it’s just downright painful!

  440. 440
    Stu Says:

    429—Conrad probably leads off; Hinske probably hits for Diory.

    435—Totally agree.

  441. 441
    Tom O. Says:


    i live in SF. it’s not so bad. great city actually. most giants fans aren’t even from the city.

    this f—ing series, though, may make me burn the city to the ground.

  442. 442
    Rusty S. Says:

    @ 429 – both.

    EDIT – what Stu said.

  443. 443
    Mike N. Says:

    Alright bitches let’s do this

  444. 444
    ugalaw06 Says:

    I hate to see it end, but this sure has been a fun team to watch. There were several points in the season where a lot of teams would have packed it in, but they just kept fighting. If we can’t come back and win this one, I hope the fans at the game show this team the appreciation they deserve.

  445. 445
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Well gents, it’s been fun.

  446. 446
    csg Says:

    the braves will get to wilson here

  447. 447
    James Says:

    I look forward to watching Kimbrel and Venters for years to come.

  448. 448
    urlhix Says:

    @425, you forgot the fog.

  449. 449
    Brian J. Says:

    As the song gose, “All we need is a miracle. All we need is you…”

  450. 450
    Johnny Says:

    This team…. I swear. For the life of me I can’t think that anyone could truly hate this group of over achievers.

    edit: Ok there’s Melky ….. my bad.

  451. 451
    joshua Says:

    @428 – never said he didn’t suck. Just that he shouldn’t be held to standards that no other player on the planet would be. But he does suck.

  452. 452
    c. shorter Says:

    435 — Pretty much sums it up.

  453. 453
    braves14 Says:

    And another reason we lost this series is that half our lineup is about replacement level. Alex Gonzalez is basically Francoeur at the plate and hits 5th.

  454. 454
    Stu Says:

    443—Pretty sure Venters dies of an arm infection this offseason. We may well have seen his only good season.

  455. 455
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Thanks for reminding me, Url. That awful fog. The city is always 10 degrees colder and cloudier than literally everything else in California around it, encased in a permanent haze of misery and terrible singer-songwriters.

  456. 456
    csg Says:

    cmon Brooks

  457. 457
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Did someone say Miracles?

  458. 458
    BobinNC Says:

    We’re going to swing and miss nine times and that will be that.
    Edit: Let Hudson get an AB. At least he might make contact.
    A GIDP by Hinske would be an appropriate way to end the season.

  459. 459
    csg Says:

    wow, the ump didnt call that? I mean it wasnt a strike but still

  460. 460
    Brian J. Says:

    Not everyone gets redeemed.

  461. 461
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Did someone say Redeemer?

  462. 462
    James Says:

    Look how Brooks managed to get halfway to second on a routine play. If only our shortstop knew how to give a full effort.

  463. 463
    Catz Says:

    I move that we bring Chipper out, like Kirk Gibson

  464. 464
    csg Says:

    how is Wilson that good? He throws nothing but straight fastballs

  465. 465
    Brian J. Says:

    There’s a minor miracle. A ball is called a ball.

  466. 466
    csg Says:

    nice AB rick

  467. 467
    Brian J. Says:

    Alex, I know you’re not here, so how are you responding to me so fast?

  468. 468
    'Rissa Says:

    It’s the love I developed for this group of overachievers who refused to give up that made me really want them to get to at least the championship series. I love the Braves and always want them to win, but this group of guys is special and found a deeper place in my heart than usual.

    Hinske…keep us alive!

  469. 469
    ugalaw06 Says:

    The third ball to Rick Ankiel in the exact same spot as the one that Heyward got rung up on in the bottom of the 9th last night.

  470. 470
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Vagrant Brian Wilson looks like he’s struggling…

  471. 471
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Totally agree, ‘Rissa. And it’s nice to see you around!

  472. 472
    JoeyT Says:

    3-1 count. The magic count. Do it.

  473. 473
    Adam R Says:

    Wow. The ump has suddenly reformed his strike zone.

    EDIT: Nevermind.

  474. 474
    Catz Says:

    That was further outside than ball 3…

  475. 475
    Stu Says:

    Ball four called strike two. Shocking.

  476. 476
    braves14 Says:


  477. 477
    csg Says:

    nice AB Eric

  478. 478
    c. shorter Says:

    Omar, please take a few.

  479. 479
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:


    Omar, take some pitches, okay?

  480. 480
    brule™ Says:

    Don’t curse jonny venters bad luck, stu.

  481. 481
    Adam R Says:

    I am so confused.

  482. 482
    ugalaw06 Says:

    Don’t tell me this will end up coming down to Melky.

  483. 483
    JoeyT Says:

    Awesome. Two on, one out, third best hitter in the NL this year coming up.

  484. 484
    ryan c Says:

    omar better tie it, or we’re DOOMED!

  485. 485
    Rusty S. Says:

    I would have run Hanson, we might need Hudson to pinch hit later

  486. 486
    Stu Says:

    Classic Omar. Take the first pitch, then start hacking.

    Prove me wrong, Omar.

  487. 487
    BobinNC Says:

    I can’t watch this.

  488. 488
    csg Says:

    how is it possible that our hopes may ride on Melky’s shoulders…please tie this omar

  489. 489
    c. shorter Says:


  490. 490
    jdpeace Says:

    melky. this is the perfect end to the season.

  491. 491
    JoeyT Says:

    Melktober? Please?

  492. 492
    braves14 Says:

    And the season comes down to Melky. Classic.

  493. 493
    Catz Says:


  494. 494
    Bethany Says:

    Shit, Omar. That was terrible.

  495. 495
    Brian J. Says:

    This is just God flipping us off.

  496. 496
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Melky, please.

  497. 497
    Dan Says:

    So this is how the season dies….with Melky Cabrera.

  498. 498
    Mike N. Says:

    Melky magic?

  499. 499
    Stu Says:

    This is the perfect end to the season. And ball one was called strike one.

  500. 500
    'Rissa Says:

    And it all comes down to Melky…why is this happening to us?

  501. 501
    Adam R Says:

    LOL. Melky.

  502. 502
    MikeM Says:

    Melky, get a hit and I will buy you a box of donuts!

  503. 503
    Johnny Says:

    I think my heart is going to explode.

  504. 504
    Rufino Linares Says:

    At least Melky doesn’t look nervous. He just looks hungry.

  505. 505
    Catz Says:

    Melky is no Francisco Cabrera.

  506. 506
    Dan Says:

    Whomp, whomp.

  507. 507
    Tom O. Says:

    couldn’t see. that one blown too?

  508. 508
    Stu Says:

    Appropriately feeble.

    Screw these umpires.

    So long, Bobby.

  509. 509
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Goodnight, everybody. It was a good season, despite everything.

  510. 510
    Brian J. Says:

    Well, at least he didn’t strike out. I won’t say “See y’all in February,” but (as with most of you) I won’t be posting much soon.

  511. 511
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Oh Melky.

  512. 512
    urlhix Says:

    Oh well, fun season y’all.

  513. 513
    kc Says:

    Our final at-bat is by Melky. How fitting.

  514. 514
    jdpeace Says:

    It was always all Melky’s fault.

  515. 515
    Tony Says:

    Poor Conrad….

  516. 516
    c. shorter Says:

    Well, that was the right way to end it. Melktober.

  517. 517
    'Rissa Says:

    Well…thanks Bobby for all you’ve given this organization, even when you drove us crazy. And thanks Wagner, for this year. It was a great ride.

    I’m looking forward to next year, with our young arms. Here’s hoping for a healthy season for us.

  518. 518
    csg Says:

    well Bobby, congrats on a good career

  519. 519
    Mike N. Says:

    Well I do have to say that this was probably the most entertaining season I’ve experienced in my time, and this blog was honestly a huge reason for it.

  520. 520
    kc Says:

    Thanks for everything Bobby. Enjoy retirement.

  521. 521
    MikeM Says:

    Thanks for 166 games that meant something this year, Braves.

    Thanks Bobbyq

  522. 522
    csg Says:

    pretty nice of the Giants also

  523. 523
    braves14 Says:

    Well, Wren, get us a real left field bat and the best right-handed reliever you can afford in the offseason.

  524. 524
    Dan Says:

    Enjoy getting bent over by the Phillies, Giants.

  525. 525
    Tom O. Says:



    EDIT: Sorry for that. Great season, Braves. 2011 looks pretty nice. See ya, Bobby. Thanks for great baseball since I was 6 years old.

  526. 526
    Rufino Linares Says:

    Goodbye Bobby and Wags. Sorry for how you both went out- but you did go down swinging.

  527. 527
    Johnny Says:

    To the 2010 Atlanta Braves: Thanks Guys for a great season.

  528. 528
    ryan c Says:

    good season, braves. i can guarantee that melky wont be the last out of next year’s postseason.

  529. 529
    jdpeace Says:


  530. 530
    csg Says:

    we might as well get Cody Ross for CF. Thatll keep him from beating us 3-5 times each year

  531. 531
    Tom O. Says:

    cody ross’ lifetime OPS at turner field is 150 points higher than his career average.

    just saying.

    EDIT: not actually saying we sign him. again, sign him, and park him the instructional league in antarctica.

  532. 532
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Thanks for the memories, Bobby.

  533. 533
    csg Says:

    defense, resign Hinske, get something useful in CF/LF, and trade Lowe

  534. 534
    Rufino Linares Says:

    The Giants even celebrate like a bunch of annoying wusses.

    Now I am really just being bitter.

  535. 535
    Tom O. Says:

    529: lowe may not be worth the money, but the man showed up to play this postseason. can’t disrespect his performance in this series.

  536. 536
    sdp Says:

    And that’s a wrap.

    Go Braves.

  537. 537
    Johnny Says:

    Thanks for everything Bobby.

  538. 538
    njbravesfan Says:

    It was really sad to see Bobby end his tenure here. It was most likely time to go but his guys always played hard for him

    One thing I thought was. Of all the talented guys that bobby has had and hard working guys. Its sad his last at bat as a manager was Melky who is lazy and underacheiver. Sad

  539. 539
    Trace Says:

    Season was a blast. This has to be my favorite Braves team ever.

  540. 540
    rehabreject Says:

    I say quit EFFIN’ around and trade for a freakin’ power bat.

    Tommy Hanson for Ryan Braun. Get it done, Wren.

  541. 541
    csg Says:

    #534 – But it didnt have to be…it couldve been Diaz up there.

  542. 542
    Adam R Says:

    Thanks for everything, Bobby. Loved watching you, Wags. Thanks also to Mac, who has the sad task of recapping this game.

    I still can’t believe how much this team did with so little — I’m only surprised that I finally feel a little sadness that it’s over. All in all, a very enjoyable season. Excited for 2011 and super-pumped for 2012, which is when I believe our true window will open. Enjoy Werth and Oswalt while you can, Phillies.

    (You can never start cranking the hype machine too early, I suppose!)

  543. 543
    spike Says:

    Well booooo! But really, the way it happened notwithstanding, if someone had offered you a 91 win season and a WC berth on Opening Day, even with a 1st round loss, you’d have taken it. The team played marvelously for a very long time, and this season was most enjoyable to me, all in all.

  544. 544
    csg Says:

    #531 – exactly right, Lowe has been our best pitcher for the last 2 months. I got tons of respect for how he picked up this team down the stretch. But, if anyone is willing to take that contract you gotta move him

  545. 545
    csg Says:

    Chipper, Prado, Medlen, Jurrjens, Wagner, Saito, EOF = what might have been

  546. 546
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Recapped. Melky is fat and he sucks and if he’s on the team next year I can’t be held responsible for what happens.

  547. 547
    stupup74 Says:

    After last night, I was ready for the end. I didn’t want it to end so soon, but I was ready.

    There is lump in my throat, and a smile on my face.

    Bobby, I’m gonna miss you. I have never known another manager. Enjoy a well earned retirement.

    Wags, for once I got to pull for you on my team. It was an honor.

    Melky, Agon, KK, and I know I’m in the minority here, but Frank Wren(I wish), good ridance.

    I am ready for the new era. I am ready for a change. I am ready for some youth. I never want to see the visitors locker room at Turner Field sprayed with bubbly again.

  548. 548
    IthacaBraves Says:

    We were playing with house money. I’m going to enjoy watching the Phillies destroy these clowns.

  549. 549
    BigE Says:

    Great 2010 Season Braves. Thanks Bobby. Feel about the same as when Dean Smith was done.

  550. 550
    csg Says:

    Chipper Jones…

    “I don’t want the last memory of me to be laying out behind third base. On top of that, I was playing really well and I was swinging the bat really well. I was healthy and I was running the bases good. My frame of mind was really focused. I just want to keep going,” said the 38-year-old.

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