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03 Oct

What Miserable Braves Playoff Loss are YOU? BONUS THREAD: Hope.

So, it’s just a bit outside my arbitrarily-defined time frame, but this did happen not quite 18 years ago…

 

 

And if you were reading closely, you’d note that my odds of various miserable things occurring didn’t fully add up to 100%…

 

 

The oddsmakers I bought this ticket from at the Wynn Casino in Vegas a couple weeks ago offered me 7:1, a 14% chance. I put the odds more on 10%, but I’ll pay the vig; what fun is being a fan if you don’t?

I’ll be out at the Ted tonight hoping we can steal one off Kershaw and reverse all this playoff-lottery bad luck. You should come too.  I mean, what are our chances? One out of ten? One out of a hundred? One out of a million?

 

 

Chances of the 2013 Braves doing this: So you’re telling me there’s a chance! 

 

372 Responses to “What Miserable Braves Playoff Loss are YOU? BONUS THREAD: Hope.”

  1. 1
    BMan Says:

    Freeman gets on, Gattis connects for a 2-run HR, Medlen only gives up 1, and the Kraken closes it out. This would make me very happy.

  2. 2
    fm Says:

    JC’d:

    I just tried to go to Ticketmaster’s website, and the page is just a white screen that says “Forbidden: You do not have permission to access on this server.”

    Any technology-savvy Braves Journalists who can help with this?

  3. 3
    W.C.G. Says:

    @2, go to StubHub, the prices there are better anyway.

  4. 4
    cliff Says:

    mavery at 85, last thread,

    Continuing on “why are we so stupid as to think Braves can win?”

    I know the Dodgers were awful early and were without Kemp (still without), Puig, H. Ramirez (hasn’t played two games in a row in a while). But still, their run differential compared to Braves says that “for the season” they are fundamentally not as good of a team as the Braves.

    So, then you say “what was better or worse, fundamentally, about each team as the year ended?” (and obviously we don’t REALLY know what is fundamentally different, because of small sample size, but my take follows).

    Braves better: lineup optimization, Heyward offense, Simmons offense, 2B defense, Medlen back on, Teheran maturing before our eyes, Wood getting it done, outfield offense subbing Gattis for BJ

    Braves worse: Walden sketchy, Hudson out, catcher offense down (Gattis cooled, McCann banged up and cooled off, Laird hotter start not holding), bench not having Pena and Schaffer tailing off, outfield defense (using Gattis / Heyward / J Upton)

    Dodgers better: Brian Wilson adds a decent experienced late innings arm, Puig was not in first 60 or so games

    Dodgers worse: No Kemp is worse than a 1 / 2 Kemp, Ethier overplayed his fundamentals and now he may be out completely,

    A big issue on the Dodgers is which Hanley Ramirez is in this. If he really is too banged up to go or to be effective, I think Braves have the better team. If 1000 ops Hanley with decent (by his standards) defense is available, then it will be tough.

  5. 5
    ryan c Says:

    Looks like there are at least 10,000 tix left for the game tonight.

  6. 6
    W.C.G. Says:

    If there’s a lesson in this series of posts, it’s that who the better team is tends to be a mostly irrelevant factor. We’re up all night to get lucky.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NV6Rdv1a3I

  7. 7
    Remy Says:

    It’s guys like Nick Punto and Mark Ellis you have to worry about. They’re pesky. They’re the ones who get a rally going.

  8. 8
    cliff Says:

    On the “built for the postseason” argument,

    I do believe that in postseason that the top 2 starters and the top 3 relievers impact a series more than a 162 game season. I also believe that 6th and 7th starters impact the 162 a lot (well, 1 to 2 games most years), but because they will be no more than a low leverage reliever, they do not influence the postseason much at all.

    I am not sure I believe that the strikeout thing is so big, but what is big is that teams don’t press and try to force the issue but are willing to take walks if they don’t get their pitch.

    So, the Braves may not be quite as well built for the postseason as the Dodgers. I think we could take Dodgers over 162 as these rosters are constituted 70% of the time. Postseason, not so confident.

  9. 9
    Smitty Says:

    @7

    I agree. Keep those guys off base.

  10. 10
    Dan Says:

    The Braves should forfeit. Kershaw is unbeatable. That’s why the Dodgers have only lost fourteen games in which he started in 2013.

  11. 11
    Nick Says:

    @5

    I’m not sure where you’re getting that number, but it is what I was afraid of. It’s late, people think we’re going to lose, and the pathetic baseball fans in our city can’t be bothered with it.

  12. 12
    Remy Says:

    The Braves are ready for this game. They’ve been building toward it for the last two seasons. They’ll be ready for Kershaw and whomever else the Dodgers throw at them.

    Go, Braves!

  13. 13
    Smitty Says:

    A win tonight and I say Braves in 4

  14. 14
    mavery Says:

    You guys make me feel better. :-)

    Can’t wait for this game to start tonight!!!!!

  15. 15
    ryan c Says:

    @11
    It was a bit sarcastic but there are seriously a ton of tix left.

  16. 16
    Nick Says:

    @15

    Well, as I said, there’d better be a hell of a walk-up.

  17. 17
    gaz Says:

    @15

    Turner Field is 10K seats too large.

  18. 18
    Smitty Says:

    I’m doing my part tonight. I’m going and busting out my Smotlz jersey.

  19. 19
    fm Says:

    @15

    For what it’s worth, there were supposedly around 7000-9000 tickets available for the NFC Championship game, but the Georgia Dome was pretty obviously sold out at kickoff. Although Ticketmaster isn’t working on my computer right now, I do recall that the last time I checked, there were basically just a few small patches of seats scattered here and there deep in the upper deck. I think there’ll be at least 46,000 in attendance tonight. So I’m really not sure where you’re getting that perception from.

  20. 20
    fm Says:

    And right after the time frame for editing one’s post expires, I see that Ticketmaster is magically working again. But now I got a message that says “Lots of fans are trying to buy tickets right now–you have a much better shot if we select the best available seats for you.”

  21. 21
    Nick Says:

    @19

    That story that came out about tickets being available for the NFC Championship Game was nothing but complete hogwash, because all of those tickets were available on StubHub, not through Ticketmaster on the main site. So all of the seats had been sold, but somebody saw that there were thousands available on StubHub and wrote some cutesy BS implying there would be 10,000 empty seats at the Georgia Dome as if those seats hadn’t already been sold.

    This is a little different, because these are available directly via Ticketmaster and haven’t been sold yet. Though it seems like a lot of people are getting the word that there are tickets left since the site is jammed right now, so maybe through last-minute sales this afternoon and the walk-up, it won’t be so bad. One can hope, anyway.

  22. 22
    Dan Says:

    The Tokyo Rose media has probably depressed ticket sales.

    “Surrender now Braves, you have no chance. Dodgers are unbeatable.”

  23. 23
    Nick Says:

    @22

    Maybe, but telling us not to even bother voting for Freddie Freeman for the All-Star Final Vote had the opposite effect. Of course, that didn’t require venturing inside the Perimeter with the chance that you wouldn’t get home until after midnight. That is to say, it didn’t actually require any effort in the slightest.

    EDIT: Game 3 on Sunday is set for 8:07 p.m. ET BTW.

  24. 24
    W.C.G. Says:

    I think tomorrow will be the bigger crowd, and that “eh, I’ll go on Friday, don’t have to get up for work/school the next day after a late game” may be a drag on tonight’s crowd. StubHub has a similar amount of tickets available for tomorrow but they’re generally priced higher in any given section vs. tonight’s.

  25. 25
    ryan c Says:

    Lineup probably what everyone expected
    1. Heyward
    2. J. Upton
    3. Freeman
    4. Gattis
    5. McCann
    6. C. Johnson
    7. Simmons
    8. E. Johnson
    9. Medlen

  26. 26
    Shawn Says:

    Does anyone know of anywhere where the game will be streaming by… alternate means? I don’t have cable and am very poor, is why I ask.

  27. 27
    nongnong Says:

    Is there any way to stream the games through MLB.tv, or is that out the window for the post season?

  28. 28
    ububba Says:

    Odd to consider that Medlen’s actually older than Kershaw. Kris turns 28 next week, while Kershaw won’t be 26 until just before Spring Training.

    BTW, Medlen’s numbers vs. this Dodger lineup are pretty good. Only Hanley (5/9 with 1 HR) seems to hit him pretty well.

    And… you don’t really want to see the Braves’ hitters numbers vs. Kershaw. (Freddie has the only HR off him & JUpton’s 3/29.)

    Nonetheless, I’m pretty excited about this game. Kershaw might be the best starting pitcher since Pedro, but that doesn’t mean we can’t beat him tonight.

  29. 29
    krussell Says:

    Let’s keep it real. We’re heavy underdogs tonight. Rooting like hell for us to win, but I don’t expect to.

  30. 30
    Nathan Says:

    @26, postseason.tv lets you stream the division series and the NLCS for $5 total, which is actually a pretty good deal.

  31. 31
    urlhix Says:

    @26 vipboxonline dot eu. Multiple free streams.

  32. 32
    csg Says:

    @ajcbraves: #Braves Uggla: “Dissappointed, p***ed off… I’m not blind to my numbers. But at same time, I know what I’ve done my whole career.”

  33. 33
    csg Says:

    Oh and Fredi said Laird could play 3b if needed. It’s really a bad decision to have Constanza on this roster and not Uggla.

  34. 34
    c. shorter Says:

    31 — Not blind to his numbers. Perfect.

  35. 35
    Stewart Says:

    I’m going down there tonight. The playoffs form a bizarre world where the previously unimaginable become possible. In the past those cruel fates have been mostly visited upon us. Maybe we get a little good fortune this time.

  36. 36
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    @31, there are a whole lot of other things that he is blind to, and they’re white spheres that go about 90 miles an hour.

  37. 37
    Dan Says:

    Uggla says what I myself feel. I’d take him over E. Johnson any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Also, Fredi seems to love Constanza the way Cox did Lockhart.

    But whatever at this point. Go Braves.

  38. 38
    coop Says:

    Go Braves.

  39. 39
    ububba Says:

    Carlos Beltran now has 15 post-season HRs in 153 PAs. Wow.

  40. 40
    csg Says:

    @ajcbraves: #Braves Uggla: “First inclination is to say, screw this, I’m going home. But I knew that’s not the right thing to do.”

    @ajcbraves: #Braves Uggla: “I’ll show up tomorrow with my suit and suitcase, and if they let me on the plane I’ll go.”

    @ajcbraves: Uggla last comment sad in response to Fredi G saying he would welcome Uggla traveling with #Braves

  41. 41
    Game, Blauser Says:

    Meanwhile, the Cardinals have scored 4 vs. Burnett in the 3rd inning, still no outs, bases loaded.

    Sure would have been nice if the Braves had won a single more game in the regular season, we could’ve been facing Burnett tonight instead of The Best Pitcher In Baseball.

  42. 42
    Dan Says:

    Meh, the Braves feel like they do worse against bad pitchers. Forget Kershaw, Capuano was the one to fear.

  43. 43
    Rusty S. Says:

    I give the Braves a 55% chance of winning this series.

  44. 44
    Dan Says:

    7-0 Cardinals going into the top of the 4th inning.

    “We waited 21 years for this?!”

  45. 45
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    It’s game one. They’ve got four more. And these Pirates will keep being good. They’ve got some real talent on the farm, including Taillon and Polanco.

  46. 46
    Adam R Says:

    Alen Hanson. They will be good for a while.

  47. 47
    CoronitaKing Says:

    I hope to wake up tomorrow with a 1-0 lead

    Child 2 hopes that Justin homers off his first pitch – she’s 8, and I hope for the same

    I haven’t been this excited/nervous in a long time

    I hope

    I hope

    I believe

    btw @ 44. Indeed

  48. 48
    Brian J. Says:

    46- “I believe. I believe. It’s silly, but I believe.”

  49. 49
    spike Says:

    @29, do blackout rules apply?

  50. 50
    MikeM Says:

    Seven straight playoff series losses. Seven straight game 1 losses. It ends tonight (maybe tomorrow morning).

    Let’s go Braves!

  51. 51
    timo Says:

    Thank you jet lag. Wide awake and counting down… One hour to go.

  52. 52
    basil Says:

    I don’t know if blackout rules apply to postseason dot tv, but it’s worth pointing out that it’s not an actual broadcast; it gives you a choice of fixed camera shots, along with the audio. No replays, no graphics, etc. That said, you can choose a quad view, giving you four different camera views all at once. It’s more than adequate for following the action, IMO.

  53. 53
    'Rissa Says:

    Blackout rules do not apply for postseason.tv, because of what it is (as stated in 51 above). If you’re trying to stream the actual TBS broadcast through it, you’re blacked out in the U.S.

  54. 54
    blazon Says:

    when are we going to see a baseball game??

    there hasn’t been one all week

    will we get one tonight?

    whatever, it’s not likely to be as boring.

  55. 55
    blazon Says:

    shame..

    turns out Rivera needed one more career out to finish with a career 1.0000 WHIP

    if he hadn’t been removed, ceremonially, last thursday he could have got it.

    http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/03/postscript-on-rivera-he-was-almost-the-1-0000-and-only/?ref=sports

  56. 56
    Ethan Says:

    Locked and loaded…ready to go. There’s nothing that could happen tonight than would be worse than some of the things we’ve seen in the playoffs over the past 25 years.

    And if we win, it would be sooo great. Some cliche about defeats and victories sweeter and all that. But seriously, we’re effing due. And Buster Posey was still OUT.

    Let’s go.

  57. 57
    blazon Says:

    @ 26

    Shawn…just for you

    http://www.vipboxonline.eu/baseball/180475/1/nlds-game-1:-atlanta-braves-vs-los-angeles-dodgers-live-stream-online.html

  58. 58
    spike Says:

    Nervous, but optimistic

  59. 59
    kc Says:

    I want to cry.

  60. 60
    braves14 Says:

    Seeing lots of empty seats. Ugh.

  61. 61
    csg Says:

    Well it’s 9 pm on a Thursday in Atl. Looks like a good crowd to me.

  62. 62
    csg Says:

    Hasn’t Puig been leadoff for his entire call up?

  63. 63
    MaverickJB Says:

    Turner Field is rocking !!

  64. 64
    'Rissa Says:

    Meds is ON tonight!

  65. 65
    kc Says:

    I love you Med.

  66. 66
    MikeM Says:

    Welcome to Atlanta where the playas play…

  67. 67
    timo Says:

    Medlen!

  68. 68
    Shawn Says:

    You guys are the best ever. I wish I could buy all of you a beer.

  69. 69
    coop Says:

    Well done, Meds. Now let’s get this Kershaw guy.

  70. 70
    Rusty S. Says:

    Your serve, Mr. Kershaw.

  71. 71
    Tomas Says:

    Good start, Meds.

  72. 72
    ububba Says:

    Can’t be better than that.

  73. 73
    csg Says:

    Home plate umps shouldn’t be allowed to call check swings

  74. 74
    kc Says:

    Keep battling!!!

  75. 75
    DowneasterJC Says:

    How has Beacher Report obtained so much exposure? What a hack of a site.

  76. 76
    jjschiller Says:

    “Kershaw is so dominant, the crowd roars with every foul tip, because he’s just able to keep the at-bat alive!”

    So I guess Medlen must be so lousy that the crowd roars everytime he manages to throw a strike? Or maybe the Dodgers are just so dominant that the crowd roars every time Medlen manages to get one by them?

  77. 77
    krussell Says:

    And that’s not good.

  78. 78
    jjschiller Says:

    Gotta tighten up, Jason.

  79. 79
    MikeM Says:

    Gaaaahh

  80. 80
    DG Says:

    Well, I guess we are going to lose 1-0 since Kershaw is just totally unhittable and no one can beat him, right?

  81. 81
    coop Says:

    Wrong base, Jason.

  82. 82
    'Rissa Says:

    Ugh. I really didn’t want Kershaw to get a run to play with so early.

  83. 83
    kc Says:

    Yeah, whatever the Braves do is wrong. I am about to turn on mute.

  84. 84
    csg Says:

    Should’ve thrown him out at third. Pretty bad throw home too.

  85. 85
    DG Says:

    Gattis in LF just cost us another run.

  86. 86
    braves14 Says:

    Shit.

  87. 87
    coop Says:

    Thought Gattis should have caught that one.

  88. 88
    Remy Says:

    You got to go get’em, Braves!

  89. 89
    'Rissa Says:

    That inning shut Turner Field up in a hurry.

  90. 90
    krussell Says:

    Oh wow, he just flat out missed that one. Gonna be an uphill climb tonight. I wish we weren’t playing at home. Nothing good happens at the Ted in October.

  91. 91
    carl Says:

    ballgame

    crap defensive shift on puig caused the whole mess.

  92. 92
    DG Says:

    One more win and we’d be playing the hapless Pirates instead of the Dodgers. Just one more win.

  93. 93
    csg Says:

    Yeah should’ve caught it. Lots of defensive issues in that inning. Simmons positioning on Puigs hit, not throwing to third by JHey, throw home by JHey, missed play by Gattis.

  94. 94
    kc Says:

    Be positive guys. We have waited too long to act like this.

  95. 95
    jjschiller Says:

    Alright well, you needed one anyway. And one wasn’t going to win it, so you might aswell get two.

  96. 96
    csg Says:

    No kc, this is just what we do. Doooooooommmmmeeeeedddd

  97. 97
    MikeM Says:

    I blame BJ for sucking so hard that Gattis had to play outfield.

  98. 98
    Adam R Says:

    Let’s be honest. B.J. cost us that run.

  99. 99
    kc Says:

    @96 and 97 That I do agree.

  100. 100
    mavery Says:

    Bummer of a rally. I blame BJ. If he wasn’t shit, Justin would’ve been in left to make that play.

    Oh well. Let’s hope Gattis runs into one here!

  101. 101
    Remy Says:

    A bloop hit is all it takes to get an inning going.

  102. 102
    kc Says:

    Gattis!!!

  103. 103
    DowneasterJC Says:

    #Gattismagic

  104. 104
    DG Says:

    Gattis is silencing his critics…or maybe not.

  105. 105
    krussell Says:

    Take him yard BMac.

  106. 106
    krussell Says:

    Shit we’re playing 8 against 10.

  107. 107
    MikeM Says:

    What the fuck was that? Screw this noise.

  108. 108
    braves14 Says:

    Barves.

  109. 109
    Remy Says:

    Giving away outs. Not good.

  110. 110
    Brian J. Says:

    103- And now they’re loudening again.

  111. 111
    coop Says:

    Well, the Bear needs to pick up his game a bit.

  112. 112
    Tomas Says:

    Umm…

  113. 113
    MaverickJB Says:

    Wtf ?

  114. 114
    'Rissa Says:

    Gattis, what the heck was that? Why does this team completely lose its head in big games?

  115. 115
    kc Says:

    What’s wrong with Gattis? He is really showing up as a rookie.

  116. 116
    csg Says:

    Yunel is back

  117. 117
    jjschiller Says:

    Well, that happened.

  118. 118
    kc Says:

    Thank goodness this is not a one-game playoff.

  119. 119
    timo Says:

    What?

  120. 120
    sdp Says:

    El Oso Farto.

  121. 121
    sdp Says:

    Evan “Brooks” Gattis

  122. 122
    jjschiller Says:

    Well at least we’re making Kershaw work, right? At 14 pitches per inning, he can probably only go 11, 12 tops.

  123. 123
    mavery Says:

    WTF. That was disappointing.

  124. 124
    DowneasterJC Says:

    My feeling of optimism is quickly shifting to a feeling of “here we go again.”

  125. 125
    mavery Says:

    Uggla could’ve done that.

  126. 126
    jjschiller Says:

    Here we go again, indeed.

  127. 127
    DG Says:

    It’s a good thing Johnson’s glove is much better than Uggla’s…oh, wait.

  128. 128
    'Rissa Says:

    Uh, oh. EJ may indeed be our new Brooks Conrad…

  129. 129
    krussell Says:

    Barves playoff checklist:

    Bad defense: check
    No hitting: check

  130. 130
    MikeM Says:

    Gotta have that Johnson. Stop sucking braves.

  131. 131
    timo Says:

    Uggla would have made that play… ok, maybe not.

  132. 132
    csg Says:

    Brooks Conrad over dan uggla. Baffling

  133. 133
    braves14 Says:

    This is so damn familiar. It’s the playoffs so the Braves are going to lose control of their bowels.

  134. 134
    iceberg584 Says:

    And now Elliot Johnson is going Brooks Conrad on us.

  135. 135
    DG Says:

    We’re already playing like we’re handicapped. What difference would it have made to start a blind man?

  136. 136
    Eric R Says:

    Good lord, that was an ugly inning, and now it is carrying over. Uggla could have booted that grounder just as well.

  137. 137
    Remy Says:

    Johnson wears his glove with two fingers in the pinky stall, which gives the glove more height and creates a deeper pocket. The index finger moves one stall to the right. IMO, it’s not a natural way to catch a ball. Medlen also wears his glove that way.

  138. 138
    krussell Says:

    It was extremely unlikely we were going to win this game anyways, but shitting all over the bed is just so aggravating.

  139. 139
    csg Says:

    It’s natural for some outfielders but definitely not a MI

  140. 140
    Another Nick Says:

    These guys clearly just do not have the mindset.

  141. 141
    mavery Says:

    Are the Braves shifting like a lot more than normal tonight? Or are the Dodgers just hitting against it a lot more than normal?

  142. 142
    Remy Says:

    #138

    Agreed. You need to have a better feel for the ball when playing middle infield.

  143. 143
    DG Says:

    Good night. I’m not watching this crap anymore.

  144. 144
    mavery Says:

    Well fuck.

  145. 145
    jjschiller Says:

    All I need to see.

  146. 146
    coop Says:

    Dadgum.

  147. 147
    oldtimer? Says:

    oh well.

  148. 148
    csg Says:

    Better show up tomorrow

  149. 149
    braves14 Says:

    What the hell is going on with the defensive positioning?

  150. 150
    mavery Says:

    That’s twice Puig has gone right up the middle while Andrelton was deep in the hole. Bad advance work or bad luck?

  151. 151
    timo Says:

    Ugh. That’s a shame.

  152. 152
    kc Says:

    Now this is disappointing…ok, now we better start thinking about destroying Kershaw.

  153. 153
    Eric R Says:

    Well, this is really pathetic. Even Andrelton looks slow.

  154. 154
    krussell Says:

    Why is Simmons playing so out of position? Fuck it, who cares. Time to find something else to do. We’re not scoring tonight so it doesn’t matter how bad we play.

  155. 155
    csg Says:

    Why are we playing shifts? Dang

  156. 156
    MikeM Says:

    That’s it. Trade the damn farm for an ace starter next year Wren. They will continue to lose in the playoffs until we can match others’s #1’s.

  157. 157
    Big D Says:

    Welp…gotta win tomorrow, boys.

  158. 158
    'Rissa Says:

    No worries guys—we have Freddy Garcia pitching for us in Game 4!

  159. 159
    sdp Says:

    Well the top of the first inning sure was fun.

  160. 160
    timo Says:

    EJ should have made that play…

  161. 161
    krussell Says:

    @154, agree 1000%. This is a pitching mismatch of epic proportions. Until we can counter that we won’t be sniffing a World Series. We need the next Smoltz…not soft-tossing changeup artists.

  162. 162
    kc Says:

    @154 I have been thinking about David Price.

  163. 163
    csg Says:

    It’s not medlens fault. He’s only had one ball hit hard and EJ’s error made him ace Agon there. That and awful defensive positioning.

  164. 164
    braves14 Says:

    This is like a microcosm of every playoff loss we ever have. Horrid defense, no chance to score, and mediocre pitching.

  165. 165
    Rusty S. Says:

    Doomers gonna doom.

  166. 166
    braves14 Says:

    156 — Don’t hold your breath that there is a Game 4.

  167. 167
    Seat Painter Says:

    As I said to my son – I’ve been seeing this for the last two decades.

  168. 168
    csg Says:

    Don’t bunt fredi

  169. 169
    csg Says:

    If EJ gets on do you bunt with Medlen or PH? Announcers just got it right. Uggla should’ve been up with a chance to drive him home.

  170. 170
    kc Says:

    I don’t like this group of team from TBS.

  171. 171
    'Rissa Says:

    @164 I can’t help but be an optimist. Because this Braves team and roster makes it so easy to be (/sarcasm).

  172. 172
    Eric R Says:

    Would be nice to get 1 here; Elliot with a weak counterproductive nubber doesn’t help.

  173. 173
    Remy Says:

    Kershaw ain’t exactly shuttin’ the door.

  174. 174
    'Rissa Says:

    @168—The Braves are making it way to easy for them to follow the “Braves are terrible, Kershaw is unstoppable” script.

  175. 175
    Eric R Says:

    Kershaw has lost the strike zone?

  176. 176
    krussell Says:

    The TBS crew is also not on board with the way Uggla was kicked to the curb.

  177. 177
    Remy Says:

    #173

    Thrown a couple balls high. Walked a batter. Fell behind on Medlen. Count now full.

  178. 178
    csg Says:

    Medlen swung at two ball 4’s?

  179. 179
    kc Says:

    @174 Yes, they are all traditionalists who only look at HRs and RBIs.

  180. 180
    krussell Says:

    And letting Medlen hit there was not a good decision – although we have nobody on the bench worth a damn.

  181. 181
    F Says:

    Having Ron Darling announce a post season series with the Braves in it is total BS.

  182. 182
    'Rissa Says:

    If Kershaw could pull an Ankiel, that would be really nice.

  183. 183
    Eric R Says:

    But who would you use as a PH with this roster?

  184. 184
    MikeM Says:

    Gotta do like those late 90’s Yankees here and chip away at this lead a bit at a time. Don’t know if we have the personnel though.

  185. 185
    'Rissa Says:

    Also, did you all see that Chipper picked the Dodgers to win this series? Maybe he’s playing the jinx angle. He picked the Nationals to win the East this year, and that worked out pretty well for us…

  186. 186
    csg Says:

    Terdo and Uggla would’ve inspired more confidence than Janish/Constanza/Schafer/Reed

  187. 187
    timo Says:

    @178, agree. Get Medlen out and habe him start game 4.

  188. 188
    MaverickJB Says:

    @183 is there some source to confirm this I know he grew up a Dodger fan .

  189. 189
    kc Says:

    Ellis is really testing our corner outfielders.

  190. 190
    krussell Says:

    Our #1 starter is throwing 88mph fastballs. That’s all you need to know.

  191. 191
    csg Says:

    If BJ is in CF, Justin catches the first one and Jason would’ve caught the one in RF

  192. 192
    mavery Says:

    Medlen has like no FB command tonight. His breaking pitches are fine, but he has no idea where his FB is going. Kershaw’s had issues, too, but his stuff is just good enough to not have to care.

  193. 193
    csg Says:

    Teheran throws 93-95, should he have started?

  194. 194
    krussell Says:

    @191, he would be my #1…but the problem is we just don’t have a guy like Kershaw or Wainwright. It puts too much pressure on us to win a series when we know we’re probably gonna lose to the #1 guy twice.

  195. 195
    MikeM Says:

    Waited too long Fredi. Everybody watching can tell Medlen can’t command his fastball.

  196. 196
    kc Says:

    Get Medlen out.

  197. 197
    Remy Says:

    I can’t recall the last time the Braves threw the ball around so much.

  198. 198
    csg Says:

    Go home folks

  199. 199
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Perhaps everyone was right.

  200. 200
    kc Says:

    I just HATE Ron Darling.

  201. 201
    mavery Says:

    They’re tight. They’ve looked tight from the first inning when Medlen was humping up on the FB to get the Ks. This is a very young team. They need to relax.

  202. 202
    csg Says:

    Anybody see where Simmons is right now? We might as well have two 3b

  203. 203
    krussell Says:

    And EJ is playing right by the second base bag. I don’t remember us playing extreme shifts at all the entire season. So let’s do it now?

  204. 204
    A.West Says:

    csg,
    Teheran starts only if you value winning in the postseason as a top priority. Medlen is good for the full season, but more like a number 4 starter for a team planning to win the WS. Unless he learns how to live on the corners like Maddux.

  205. 205
    Eric R Says:

    What is wrong with Hanley Ramirez’s helmet?

  206. 206
    'Rissa Says:

    “Evan Gattis” is trending on Twitter right now. Wish it was for a different reason…

  207. 207
    Remy Says:

    #203

    Pine tar. He touches his bat and then adjusts his helmet, leaving residue that has built up over the course of the season. The all-time champ was Craig Biggio, who completely obliterated the star on his Astros helmet.

  208. 208
    Adam M Says:

    Lol @ everyone who thought it was preferable to play the Dodgers to the Pirates.

  209. 209
    MikeM Says:

    @195. I can. It was also in October. Last year.

  210. 210
    csg Says:

    #206 – Bingo

  211. 211
    DowneasterJC Says:

    I’d rather be watching Vanilla Ice Goes Amish.

  212. 212
    krussell Says:

    We brought this upon ourselves when we couldn’t beat the Brewers. And fuck Fredi and Wren for this postseason roster

  213. 213
    A.West Says:

    Good thing Freddi has Mr gritty playing second base.

  214. 214
    Remy Says:

    #207

    Yep. I don’t understand why everyone wants to relive their Little League days. I just don’t get it.

  215. 215
    'Rissa Says:

    @186 I forgot Chipper grew up a Dodgers fan. Surely his career with the Braves would have negated that by now, though. MLB tweeted this picture out earlier (if you don’t have Twitter, the summary is pretty much every celebrity they asked picked the Dodgers). I just looked back and realized they were talking about today and not the whole series, so that makes more sense to me now.

    https://twitter.com/MLB/status/385885662286585856/photo/1

  216. 216
    krussell Says:

    @213, the entire sporting universe has picked the Dodgers. They are like -160 favorites to win the series. So far it’s kinda hard to say that they are wrong.

  217. 217
    'Rissa Says:

    @214 I know. It’s just sad to see a Dodgers logo next to Chipper’s picture.

  218. 218
    csg Says:

    Their is a reason why everyone picked the Dodgers. It’s also the reason why we should’ve taken care of Milwaukee at home and played the Pirates and Aj Burnett today.

    When can we complain about not seeing LaStella in Sept? I mean Elliot Johnson is starting. I’m still baffled by it.

  219. 219
    Eric R Says:

    Two more base runners and then we can hit a 5-run homer to tie it up! ( cause that is the only way Braves score, you know.)

  220. 220
    Eric R Says:

    Never seen so much pine tar in 1 glob; looks like Bondo.

  221. 221
    Remy Says:

    They’re making Kershaw work. Something good will come of that.

  222. 222
    MikeM Says:

    Don’t worry, Brian. Those will be out in Yankee stadium.

  223. 223
    Brian J. Says:

    Regression!

  224. 224
    mavery Says:

    HEY LOOK OUR ROOKIE CAN GO FIRST TO THIRD ON A SINGLE TO CF TOO

  225. 225
    Eric R Says:

    Oh my, someone comes through for Atlanta.

  226. 226
    kc Says:

    He is supposed to be only a throw in.

  227. 227
    kc Says:

    @222 I know man. Ridiculous.

  228. 228
    csg Says:

    Lol, surprised that Puig didn’t run all the way to LF and throw out someone at home.

  229. 229
    Eric R Says:

    Simmons has a fast, fast bat.

  230. 230
    krussell Says:

    Simmons is gonna win MVP one day if he stays healthy.

  231. 231
    kc Says:

    …………………..

  232. 232
    Eric R Says:

    At least it was a longish inning for Kershaw

  233. 233
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Sad that what went through my mind before strike three was, “Maybe we can clear the 8-spot for the bottom of the fifth.”

  234. 234
    krussell Says:

    But not today…that was a small crack in the Kershaw armor there, but we didn’t take advantage.

  235. 235
    kc Says:

    Why is Med still pitching?

  236. 236
    krussell Says:

    Because Fredi. Maybe Meds can hit for himself next inning and then get pulled.

  237. 237
    csg Says:

    They would have 5 less hits with normal defensive positioning

  238. 238
    braves14 Says:

    This is so Barves.

  239. 239
    MikeM Says:

    Fredi he has no control! Hasn’t sine the 2nd inning. Get him out.

  240. 240
    kc Says:

    Thank you Fredi. Enough is enough. Don’t pull another Bobby.

  241. 241
    Eric R Says:

    Merlin just didn’t have it after the 1st.

  242. 242
    John R. Says:

    If I’m down 5-1 in a playoff game in the fifth, I don’t agree to do a dugout interview for TV. And if Bud Selig waves a TV contract in front of me saying I have to, I tell him to screw himself.

  243. 243
    braves14 Says:

    The bizarre defensive shifts didn’t help Medlen either.

  244. 244
    'Rissa Says:

    Well, I’ve done what I can to help us win this game. I’ve had a recap for a Braves loss typed out since the 3rd inning that just needs the final numbers plugged in. If me having to completely rewrite it does not spur them on to victory, I don’t know what will.

    I first started using this negative motivation when Ryan Klesko was on the team, because my sister and I felt like he always hit a home run whenever he got angry. So whenever he stepped into the box in a big moment, we would start yelling mean things to the television (at least, things that were “mean” to an 8-year-old like “you’re ugly!”) He homered in an inordinately large number of at-bats in such instances, and I have never been able to shake the feeling that my negativeness can inspire the team. I’m not a superstitious person in real life, but baseball is an entirely different beast.

  245. 245
    csg Says:

    Fredi seemed more nervous than the players. And they look really nervous

  246. 246
    krussell Says:

    Ayala means white-flag in some dialects.

  247. 247
    kc Says:

    Ayala sucks.

  248. 248
    krussell Says:

    @242, my wife and I do the same thing – I think we started it with “Bret Boone sucks” chants that would invariably lead to roid-rage homers. Good times. Unfortunately it hasn’t ever worked much in the postseason. I’m trying my best tonight but the poor-mouthing magic doesn’t work in the Ted in October. We need some new juju.

  249. 249
    csg Says:

    After not throwing to third there, I agree.

  250. 250
    kc Says:

    Can’t the crowds start chanting Kershaw’s name?

  251. 251
    Askia Says:

    Really need to get this guy and it ends up ok.

  252. 252
    Eric R Says:

    Watch Kershaw go deep here.

  253. 253
    csg Says:

    K zone looks really off for some reason

  254. 254
    sdp Says:

    Light em up up up. Light em up up up. Light em up up up. HE'S AYALAAAA— PIE (@5ToolsPie) October 4, 2013

  255. 255
    Eric R Says:

    McCann not getting framing calls tonight.

  256. 256
    csg Says:

    Watch him walk Kershaw

  257. 257
    Askia Says:

    Great job by Ayala.

  258. 258
    Brian J. Says:

    252- He’s Ayala, alright!

  259. 259
    Remy Says:

    Well done, Ayala.

  260. 260
    Nathan Says:

    Ayala did what needed doing there, regardless of his track record.

  261. 261
    MikeM Says:

    Ok here we go. Walk, single, error, homer and we’re back in it.

  262. 262
    kc Says:

    SCORELESS INNING!!!! Ok, Ayala, I hate you less now.

  263. 263
    krussell Says:

    Man that had double-Grybo written all over it. I feel like we just stole something. Turning point? Maybe.

  264. 264
    csg Says:

    Need to cut it to 5-3 here somehow

  265. 265
    krussell Says:

    So in our half of the 5th we’ve got terrible-hitter, terrible-pinch-hitter, and groundball-to-second.

  266. 266
    csg Says:

    Maybe Uggla can get a hold of one here. Oh wait, maybe EJ can single

    Edit: No, he will just look completely lost. Probably why he was released earlier this season.

  267. 267
    Eric R Says:

    Could Janish be worse?

  268. 268
    kc Says:

    You can’t get rejected Eliot.

  269. 269
    Eric R Says:

    BJ has no clue at the plate.

  270. 270
    'Rissa Says:

    Hey, BJ struck out! How strange!

  271. 271
    kc Says:

    Typical BJ at bat.

  272. 272
    MikeM Says:

    Boooooooooooooooooo! I hope you can hear that coming all the way from my couch BJ.

  273. 273
    DowneasterJC Says:

    BJ Upton tried about as hard in that AB as I would have had I been asked to get a hit off Kershaw.

    What a joke.

  274. 274
    Eric R Says:

    Old guy in hat shaking head has probably seen a lot of BJ this year.

  275. 275
    csg Says:

    BJ was 1 for his last 36. Pretty tough spot to be put in there.

  276. 276
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    The Rays have former Braves Yunel and KJ. We have ex-Rays Elliot and BJ.

  277. 277
    krussell Says:

    That’s the best curve-ball in the majors folks. He’s not even pitching like his usual self tonight and we still look overmatched.

    This is the worst possible matchup for us. 5-game series with two against this mf’er. Somehow we gotta find a way.

  278. 278
    'Rissa Says:

    And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field…

  279. 279
    csg Says:

    Gah, what piss poor efforts there

  280. 280
    Eric R Says:

    As far as striking out a side goes, not overly impressive.

  281. 281
    John R. Says:

    @273, You mean a tough spot for the Braves? Totally agree!

  282. 282
    kc Says:

    @275 We are battling. Just couldn’t get the big hit.

    @274 I want David Price. We can send them Uggla and BJ.

  283. 283
    csg Says:

    Pretty sad, but again, Uggla and Terdo should have some of these AB’s

  284. 284
    krussell Says:

    @278, K’ing BJ doesn’t count in the stat book.

  285. 285
    mavery Says:

    Oh, God. We’ve got in Walden? There’s a white flag if I ever saw one.

  286. 286
    Eric R Says:

    Andrelton looks sluggish in the field tonight.

  287. 287
    kc Says:

    Simmons just can’t be positioned right tonight.

  288. 288
    DowneasterJC Says:

    The Dodgers are better than the Braves.

  289. 289
    Eric R Says:

    Give it back, sigh

  290. 290
    John R. Says:

    Well, we are probably gonna lose this one. I feel decent about our chances to win the next two, so there is that.

  291. 291
    braves14 Says:

    And Walden is in to see just how many runs the Dodgers can get.

  292. 292
    kc Says:

    @286 Tonight, yes.

  293. 293
    krussell Says:

    They are beating the shit out of us. My sympathy to everyone that paid money to see this seal clubbing tonight.

  294. 294
    roadrunner48 Says:

    Yes, we desperately need Uggla’s awesomeness.

  295. 295
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Walden is Pedro Cerrano’s kind of pitcher: “Straight ball, I hit very much.”

  296. 296
    csg Says:

    #288 – I’m not sure how you could possibly feel that way after watching this mess and knowing that BJ/Reed/Constanza/Schafer/and Janish make up our bench. I can’t put Laird in that group. He’s useful.

  297. 297
    braves14 Says:

    288 — I have no confidence of winning the next 2 after this shit show.

  298. 298
    DG Says:

    #Sucktober

  299. 299
    krussell Says:

    It’s not that Uggla isn’t terrible…I just don’t get why you’d disrupt the clubhouse, cause turmoil and hurt-feelings and distraction, all for… Constanza? There just wasn’t any reason to do that.

  300. 300
    csg Says:

    Meanwhile the football game on espn is worth turning to real quick

  301. 301
    Adam M Says:

    Yeah, I have no idea what they do with Uggla now. He’s completely untradeable and it’s hard to imagine him being next year’s 2B. I mean, there’s gotta be some bad blood.

  302. 302
    csg Says:

    It’s not because Uggla is awesome. It’s because he can still run into one. He’s got 22 HR and a higher OBP. If we had a better option I wouldn’t complain. EJ is not a better option.

  303. 303
    krussell Says:

    There’s no way that Uggla and Fredi will be in the same dugout next year. I’m hoping they both are sent packing, but I’m afraid we’re stuck with Fredi. Uggla has played his last game as a Brave.

  304. 304
    'Rissa Says:

    Freddie did not go there. Unbelievable.

  305. 305
    kc Says:

    @301 As I said, there has to be something else between Fredi and Uggla on top of the performance issue.

  306. 306
    csg Says:

    I thought Heyward checked his swing earlier also.

  307. 307
    'Rissa Says:

    @297—exactly. Freddie and McCann’s comments about it were concerning. It’s one thing to hurt Uggla’s feelings, but it’s another thing to include Constanza and have Uggla’s teammates openly express disappointment.

    Edit: Uggla certainly wasn’t hitting well enough to be an asset to this team, but we are talking about Jose-freaking-Constanza being his replacement here.

  308. 308
    roadrunner48 Says:

    I get it. His only game is power and he’s slugging .250 since the AS break.

  309. 309
    csg Says:

    This made me laugh

    @ajcbraves: I don’t have a legit answer for that. RT @ToddRoss72: @ajcbraves why exactly was Walden put on the NLDS roster?

  310. 310
    Remy Says:

    Uggla made his bed; now he has to lie in it. That’s it. He failed to make adjustments. He didn’t hit consistently.

    Uggla’s not the problem. Medlen couldn’t locate his fastball. Poor defense, partially the result of shifts that have been newly implemented. OFers throwing to the wrong base, allowing runners to advance. Poor baserunning. That’s why the Braves are getting beat, not because Dangerous Dan isn’t in the lineup.

  311. 311
    krussell Says:

    The problem is the guy on the mound for the Dodgers.

  312. 312
    Eric R Says:

    Why Wood here? Expecting to go two innings here? Resigned to Garcia for game 4?

  313. 313
    kc Says:

    @308 Just a poorly played game tonight. However, there is a reason why we won 96 games. Tomorrow is a new game.

  314. 314
    kc Says:

    @310 Get the nerve out of the system I imagine. We will need Woody if we ever have a lead.

  315. 315
    Remy Says:

    #311

    Absolutely. Let the boys get the jitters out of their systems and go get ‘em tomorrow.

  316. 316
    csg Says:

    #306 – Last time I checked everyone started today at .000/.000/.000. Oh yeah and EJ since the break is .207/.262/.284.

  317. 317
    kc Says:

    Finally an eventless inning we so deserve.

  318. 318
    krussell Says:

    @308, my impression is that Uggla is very well liked in the clubhouse. That shouldn’t mean much, but again the other option is Elliot Johnson who is completely terrible. We didn’t sit Uggla for Chase Utley. We sat him for EJ and then rubbed salt in the open wound by putting Constanza on the roster. There’s literally 10 guys in our low minor leagues I’d rather have on the roster than Constanza. The whole thing is bewildering to me. I would have zero respect for my manager or GM if I was on the Braves.

  319. 319
    kc Says:

    It’s all about Dan Uggla’s pride. If he would at least bat .200 it would not even be an issue. He can’t control what the management does, he has to perform just like everyone of us at work.

  320. 320
    krussell Says:

    7 more walks and we’re back in this.

  321. 321
    csg Says:

    KC I agree but how do they explain the BJ, Reed, Walden, and Constanza choices. They sure haven’t performed either.

  322. 322
    Remy Says:

    #316

    Conversely, Fredi might lose respect among his players if he didn’t make a change. I mean, Uggla’s been struggling one way or another for the past two seasons. Sure, he’s a good guy, but a manager has to leave personalities out of it. He needed someone in the lineup who could make contact consistently without sacrificing defense, and E. Johnson was that guy. Constanza doesn’t wow me either, but he can make things happen. He puts pressure on the defense. I want to say he had a good series against the Phillies?

  323. 323
    csg Says:

    That barely got to the plate.

  324. 324
    csg Says:

    How much is LA paying that ump at 3b?

  325. 325
    'Rissa Says:

    The thing with Constanza is that earlier in the summer when we had outfielders hurting, we called up Joey T and Todd Cunningham. Constanza wasn’t called up until Gattis was sent down to AAA for some at-bats, just a few days before rosters expanded. If he is so valuable to this team, why wasn’t he called up earlier? Uggla has been with the big league club all season and is a pretty popular player by all accounts. I don’t think the Braves would be winning this game if Uggla was on the roster, but I do strongly question Fredi’s decision. There has to be other factors that we don’t know about here.

  326. 326
    kc Says:

    @319 I honestly think there is some serious bad blood between the two.

  327. 327
    krussell Says:

    I’m just saying that you don’t rock the boat unless you are making an upgrade. EJ is not an upgrade. Constanza shouldn’t even be on team regardless of Uggla’s status. We don’t need 6 outfielders.

  328. 328
    csg Says:

    Bright note, maybe Kershaw throwing 120 pitches in a 6-1 game will help later on

  329. 329
    'Rissa Says:

    Kershaw’s up to 118 pitches. If the Braves can somehow win the next two games, surely LA wouldn’t bring Kershaw back on short rest in Game 4 after this? Or would that be short rest, with the days off?

  330. 330
    mavery Says:

    Just can’t seem to get a break tonight….

    Shame, too. Kershaw certainly hasn’t seemed unhittable.

  331. 331
    krussell Says:

    Kershaw will pitch game 5 if needed. They don’t mind extending him tonight.

  332. 332
    roadrunner48 Says:

    If Uggla was my friend and teammate — who happens to have Francouer-like delusions about his abilities — what would I say to the press about him? “He sucks and he played his way off the roster.”? I wouldn’t get too concerned about how this thing has created some deep wound in the psyches of McCann and co.

  333. 333
    MikeM Says:

    Good night boys and girls. See you for tomorrow’s game. Another tough pitching matchup, but their chances should be a little better against a righty. Minor needs to bring his A game.

  334. 334
    csg Says:

    Completely overmatched. 0-3 2ks and an error.

  335. 335
    krussell Says:

    @330, you’re probably right. I still don’t see the need for it, but it’s not the reason we’re getting pants’d tonight. We getting chewed up by the best pitcher in either league for the last couple years. Let’s just hope we can win the next 3 and not see him again until next year.

  336. 336
    Eric R Says:

    We’ll use every one of our 12 pitchers this series.

  337. 337
    krussell Says:

    Just need to score 6 runs before making 6 outs. It’s been done before. Maybe if I drink enough we’ll have a better chance.

  338. 338
    csg Says:

    Does Constanza really put pressure on the defense? He really doesn’t hit balls out of the infield often and he’s not a good base stealer from what I can recall.

  339. 339
    kc Says:

    Wilson is a classic.

  340. 340
    csg Says:

    See Heyward signal the inside pitch to Freeman there?

  341. 341
    krussell Says:

    Yeah that was cool (not that it helped much).

  342. 342
    krussell Says:

    Y’all help me out with the positives for tonight…

    1. As far as we know nobody has fallen out of the upper decks tonight.
    2. … ?

  343. 343
    Brian J. Says:

    We did score a run. That’s probably more than most expected us to do against Kershaw.

  344. 344
    kc Says:

    Hi Evan, I wish you could have caught that in the second inning.

  345. 345
    csg Says:

    Bullpen has been good, but now they have seen all of our arms down there

    Bmac has had some good Ab’s

  346. 346
    Remy Says:

    #340

    Ayala’s performance.

    Gattis has hit the ball hard, and he just made a pretty good running catch.

    Carpenter and Wood looked good.

  347. 347
    Eric R Says:

    OK, maybe we won’t use Kimbrel this series.

  348. 348
    kc Says:

    You can keep saying the “sound off the bat” but it makes no sense to keep talking about it if he doesn’t make contact.

  349. 349
    krussell Says:

    Good AB by Gattis there.

  350. 350
    csg Says:

    Bmac should lay down a bunt on this shift.

  351. 351
    kc Says:

    The Dodgers are pitching rich because they are rich.

  352. 352
    csg Says:

    When they are giving you a base take it

  353. 353
    Putter Says:

    Yeah… Here comes Elliot Johnson…, sure glad Uggla isn’t here… Ugh…Uggla could have K’d 3 times with at least the threat of some power

  354. 354
    kc Says:

    You mean this is no infield fly rule call?

  355. 355
    kc Says:

    I am sure Dan could have hit a six-run homerun right here.

  356. 356
    krussell Says:

    Single…walk…Heyward up as the tying run?

  357. 357
    Eric R Says:

    Elliot Johnson, switch-whiffer

  358. 358
    csg Says:

    Good contact hitter there with EJ. 0-4 3K’s error

  359. 359
    krussell Says:

    Or not. Two more games left in the season. Enjoy them guys.

  360. 360
    'Rissa Says:

    Hey, Elliot pulling his best Uggla impression there!

  361. 361
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    I find myself hoping that Elliot Johnson pulls a muscle on his way back to the clubhouse.

  362. 362
    csg Says:

    15k’s.

  363. 363
    csg Says:

    @ajcbraves: #Braves have lost 4 consecutive home playoff games and 17 of past 22.

  364. 364
    krussell Says:

    17th home playoff loss in the last 22 games. Enough with the Ted. Burn it. Bulldoze it. Pour holy water in the smoking crater.

  365. 365
    csg Says:

    Fredi just said we had a nice offensive game plan.

  366. 366
    krussell Says:

    I guess if the plan was to strikeout 15 times and generally look like we didn’t belong on the same field as them…mission accomplished.

  367. 367
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    @362

    I’d suggest the Georgia Dome with a short RF porch, but it’s no better. The Dome, Turner Field … they both need a Hazmat team, an exorcist, or both.

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    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    The 2008 Detroit Lions had some nice offensive game plans, too.

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    Rob Cope Says:

    Tough match-up with Kershaw. He’s in a league of his own. When you give up 6 runs and Kershaw’s on the mound, you’re probably going to have a bad time.

    As for Struggla, I can’t believe we’re still talking about this. Dan Uggla does not “run into a fastball” anymore. And if he still does, he should have demonstrated it over the past two months. Uggla makes ZERO impact on the outcome of this game.

    If you’re desperate to “blame” someone for the loss, then blame Medlen. He didn’t bring his Game One Starter Stuff today. You typically don’t win when your starter gets bombed, regardless of who is standing at second base.

    I like our odds tomorrow and game three. It’d be nice for the bats to throw a 10 spot on the board tomorrow, wear out their bullpen, and have an advantage the rest of the series. They can’t pitch Kershaw every game.

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    krussell Says:

    Both the next two guys for the Dodgers are better than our #1 starter (whoever you think that might be). We have two more games until hot stove talk.

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    Nick Says:

    @krussell

    Zach Greinke is a complete head case who has not had a remotely worthwhile big game start in his life. But if you’re so sure, you could always just not come back for the rest of the series. I doubt that would bother anyone.

    Also, anyone who thinks Dan Uggla would’ve done anything but go 0-for-5 with 4 strikeouts is an idiot.

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    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Nick, be nice.

    New thread.

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