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25 May

Buddy Carlyle

Expected to be called up to make the start on Saturday. Cormier is supposed to be ready the next time the fifth slot comes up, so unless Carlyle is lights out it will probably be his only chance for now.

Carlyle was a second round pick of the Reds out of an Omaha high school in 1996. He emerged as a prospect the next year with an exceptional season at low-A Charleston (WV), going 14-6 with a 2.77 ERA and 111 K/27 BB in 143 innings, getting jumped to AA to start the next season, but after one start was dealt to the Padres for Marc Kroon, I don’t know why. He went 14-6 again, this time for Mobile, with a 3.38 ERA but without the strong peripherals.

The next year he made his major league debut, one of the youngest players in the big leagues. (BTW, that must have been one of the most disastrous class of “youngest players” in history. How do the names Ankiel, Armas, Kim, and Bergeron grab you?) He didn’t pitch well, going 1-3 with a 5.97 ERA. Most of the year he was at AAA Las Vegas, where he went 11-8 but with a 4.89 ERA, though Vegas is a tough place to pitch.

He was okay in AAA in 2000 (8-6, 4.29, 127/44 in 151) but didn’t pitch well in relief in a callup and was sold to Hanshin in the Japanese Central League. His time as a gaijin did not go well, and in 2003 he was back in the States with the Royals organization, trying to make it as a reliever. I don’t know for sure, but I expect there were some injury problems; at any rate, he pitched well in AA but not at AAA. In 2004, he was in the rotation in the Yankees’ farm system, and again pitched well in AA but not at AAA. He definitely must have had some injuries in 2005, with the Dodgers, since he pitched once in rookie ball. He got a brief callup to the majors but did not do well. He pitched in 13 games in 2006 for the Marlins’ AAA affiliate, doing very well, then left for Korea. He’s pitched very well again for the Braves at Richmond this season.

As you can see, Carlyle has been around a long time and made a lot of stops, but he’s still only 29. His fastball goes about 89-93, and he also throws, or has thrown, a changeup. He’s been used in relief a lot but is ill-suited for the role, leading to inconsistent results, and the Braves and Guy Hansen decided to move him to the rotation. In the minors and Japan Carlyle has a nearly 3:1 career strikeout:walk ratio, but has allowed a lot of homers, just about one per nine innings. There’s no reason he can’t be a serviceable back-of-the rotation guy, but the Braves have plenty of those.

Buddy Carlyle Baseball Statistics
BaseballAmerica.com: 2007 Player Statistics: Buddy Carlyle

22 Responses to “Buddy Carlyle”

  1. 1
    Another Alex R. Says:

    Hey, the more #4 starters, the merrier!

  2. 2
    Robert Says:

    There’s no reason he can’t be a serviceable back-of-the rotation guy, but the Braves have plenty of those.

    Really? Who are they? We seem to be scraping every time the fifth spot comes up.

  3. 3
    spike Says:

    What a great name for a hillbilly/country singer. Where’s he from?

  4. 4
    njbravesfan Says:

    bottom line is this, his name is not Mark redman, thats A. B.) does not require to bring his L Screen onto the mound for starts C.) is not in this to up opponents slugging percentage/feelings

  5. 5
    ububba Says:

    Buddy Carlyle—certainly a name for a country singer or career minor leaguer.

    Can we just get some innings, some length from our 5th guy? I expect him to get hit, but can he just get to the 5th inning?

    Very amusing listening to the Mets fans today—it’s a mixture of the typical whining (umpire spiels & Julio-hate) & a splash of self-delusion (eg.- “just wait ’til Pedro gets back.”)

    Um, as long as his name’s not Oliver Perez, we’ll beat him, too. That’s all we’ve done this year.

    Headed to the Bronx tonight to see the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim (aka Pinstripe Kryptonite).

  6. 6
    csg Says:

    all he has is a fastball and a changeup?

  7. 7
    csg Says:

    Mariners pitcher Horacio Ramirez has shoulder stiffness. Asked if he thought the injury was potentially disabling, the left-hander said, “I hope not. It doesn’t feel that bad. But I don’t know.” Manager Mike Hargrove is no doctor, but he didn’t seem confident of a positive outcome. “On a scale of one to 10, it’s probably about a seven or an eight,” the manager said when asked the level of his concern.

  8. 8
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I assume he has a breaking pitch, but I’m working with seven year old scouting reports here. Eight years ago he threw a curveball, but I don’t know if he still does or uses a slider.

  9. 9
    Smitty Says:

    He should develop one and see if Andruw can hit it. $50 says he can’t!

  10. 10
    jj3bagger Says:

    I saw Carlyle pitch a couple of times last year at the aforemention Marlins AAA stop (Albuquerque), he is nothing special, he won’t knock your socks off as far as lighting up the radar gun, but he won’t walk the park. He relies upon his defense, particularly his outfield, which isn’t a terrible thing. Albuquerque is a tough place to pitch, and the PCL is a notorious hitters league, but I think he’ll do fine. As has been stated on here before, as long as he can get into the six or the seventh and keep the game close, that’s really all you can ask. If he pitches more than 2 and doesn’t give up 9, that’s a drastic improvement over L Screen Redman.

  11. 11
    Stu Says:

    From the previous thread (so people can make fun of me):

    Time for some Stu trade proposals? Time for some Stu trade proposals!

    Thorman and Matt Harrison to the Rockies for Helton, with Colorado eating a big chunk of his contract.

    Yunel Escobar and Jo-Jo Reyes to the A’s for Rich Harden.

    Salty to the Tigers for Cameron Maybin.

  12. 12
    Smitty Says:

    I think Willy Harris will hit for the vyvle tonight and we will seee how many holes it takes to fill the Alber Hall

  13. 13
    Smitty Says:

    Stu:

    My barber approves.

  14. 14
    Smitty Says:

    *cycle not vyvle

  15. 15
    ububba Says:

    Lots of Helton to NYY talk up here. If that’s the case, you know who’s paying the freight.

  16. 16
    Smitty Says:

    Well Helton was a good pitcher at UT, I am sure he will make their rotation.

  17. 17
    Godot Says:

    Ahh Maybin. Lots of people are not that bandwagon. I am not entirely sold on him. If of all the high profile prospects, I had to pick a bust, it would be him

  18. 18
    Godot Says:

    Well Helton was a good pitcher at UT, I am sure he will make their rotation.

    If things dont work out, he can QB for the Falcons

  19. 19
    njbravesfan Says:

    why would the yankees want helton? another large contract up in age guy,,,,too risky but im sure mike and the mad dog would love nothing more s othey can talk about how he will sign his new contract for the next 5 hours

  20. 20
    Another Alex R. Says:

    If they’re seriously talking about Helton, it means Giambi is about to take a long walk off a short pier… I think they’re starting to get seriously pissed about his positive drug test, his public sorta-apology, and his inability to be good enough (i.e. have as many homers as Jorge Posada) to make the issue moot.

  21. 21
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Isn’t Doug Scrabblename playing first base for them?

  22. 22
    Rufino Linares Says:

    I hope we do not go after Helton. He’s on the downside of his career and his road numbers from ’04-’06 aren’t anything spectacular; an 880 OPS is certainly not bad but it’s not elite either. Maybe better than what we would get from Thor, but not enough better to take a gamble on a 33 year old who (albeit not so far this year) is showing signs of decline.

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