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22 Jun

I really am depressed by this ballclub game thread: Mariners at Braves, June 22

136 Responses to “I really am depressed by this ballclub game thread: Mariners at Braves, June 22”

  1. 1
    Stephen Says:

    We have a chance to take 2 out of 3 from the Mariners–ought to be easy, but it almost seems like an epic struggle.

    On the nice side, maybe Lillibridgg (who is from WA) get his first big league hit against Seattle….

  2. 2
    Coop Says:

    JJ pitched well despite the total collapse behinf him, and Frenchy got hit in the clutch.

  3. 3
    Coop Says:

    Spellcheck is a useful tool.

  4. 4
    Brian J. Says:

    Thank you for the lesson in semantics, Coop.

    Again, it’s hard to believe that we’re just 5 games behind the Phillies, but that’s where we are. There’s more than enough time for the Braves to win the division, if everyone gets healthy and starts playing the way they have in previous years. (I know what you’ve said about Hope, Mac, but indulge me.)

  5. 5
    Stephen Says:

    Agreed–Until the Phillies (or another team)run away with the division or the Braves completely collapse there is every reason to hope for the best. If the Cardinals can win the World Series with 84 regular seasons wins, the Braves can at least stay competitive for awhile….

  6. 6
    phil Says:

    The only “hit” frenchy can get in the clutch is HBP.

    Bench-y Frenchy!

  7. 7
    basil Says:

    Between innings late in the game last night, they played Sussudio on the loudspeakers at Turner Field. And then we won the game. Is there anything the music of Phil Collins can’t do?

  8. 8
    Dave Says:

    Jeff’s not in the line-up today…

  9. 9
    Dave Says:

    Blanco cf
    Infante ss
    KJ 2b
    Tex 1b
    BMac c
    Norton rf
    Gotay 3b
    Jones lf
    Huddy p

  10. 10
    A.West Says:

    Awesome about Frenchy not being in the lineup. Too bad Norton is the best alternative. I wonder if it’s because of the injury, or the injury is the excuse Cox is using to do what he should have done many times before – sit Frenchy.

  11. 11
    phil Says:

    I hope he got injured. He needs to go on the 60 day dl for this team to have a chance.

  12. 12
    Nick Says:

    Well, he’s taken Norton out of the middle of the order and Brandon Jones is in the lineup instead of Francoeur. This is pretty much the best lineup that it is possible for us to field with the people we have available at the moment. Only minor quibble is that perhaps Jones should be hitting sixth.

  13. 13
    Dan Says:

    That lineup is as good as you it’s going to get with Chipper and Escobar out. Any time your best hitter (Chipper) and either third or fourth best hitter (Escobar) is out, it’s going to look at least a little ugly.

    O’Brien says this was a “scheduled” off-day for Francoeur. I don’t believe. Bobby knows he’s been awful. Put him on the DL with “inability to hit”.

  14. 14
    Adam M Says:

    Is there any word on Chipper’s availability for next week? I ask for fantasy-related purposes mainly…

  15. 15
    csg Says:

    seriously though 5 of the 8 starters we’re not an opening day starter for us. Silva sucks so why dont we get Huddy some runs, he deserves a win

    after last nights game, I had to buy a McCann shirt

  16. 16
    Rob Cope Says:

    I’m wondering the same thing, Adam M. Though I do have Evan Longoria waiting on the bench. The great thing about Chipper is that he’s a fantasy stud, but you gotta have a back-up 3B. My 3B and CI are pretty solid: A-Rod, Chipper, and Longoria.

  17. 17
    Adam M Says:

    That’s crazy. I have Longoria too and have to make this decision by tomorrow at noon. Anyway, if you have A-Rod that might be a logjam.

  18. 18
    Smitty Says:

    I love the Braves Live (!) excuse why Frenchy isn’t playing. “It is a schedualed off day for Jeff. He did get hit in the hand and the foot.”

    Too bad he didn’t get hit in the head. Frenchy’s head isn’t a vital organ.

  19. 19
    Mac Thomason Says:

    So for three entire years he doesn’t take a day off, and suddenly, the day after getting hit in the hand, he has a scheduled off day. Riiiiiiiiight.

  20. 20
    Rob Cope Says:

    Well, there hasn’t been too many weeks this year where I’ve had to make a decision. Longoria didn’t get called up until a couple weeks in, and then A-Rod was injured, Chipper has been injured a bit, and Longoria was in a slump. For all but a couple weeks, it was an easy decision who to start, especially since there are lineup spots for a corner infielder and 3B.

    I really blew it with Jair this week. I think he was a two-start pitcher, but I was worried he wouldn’t make his starts, so I sat him. That didn’t turn out too well.

    Longoria is .200/.292/.350 in his last six. Hitting around .250 for the month, but his isolated discipline and power are up. Tough decision.

  21. 21
    Frank Says:

    Put him on the DL with “inability to hit”.

    LOL!

  22. 22
    Smitty Says:

    I read that we might be in the Ryan Freel market. Thoughts?

  23. 23
    Frank Says:

    I’d pass–the only thing Freel upgrades is the expense of putting a bunch of mediocre players on the field

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    Godot Says:

    That was scary, seeing Jones, LF without Jones , 3B in the lineup card.

    And Mac playing the day game after a long night game? Arghh. Stupid Corky.

  25. 25
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Thoughts?

    Well, apparently the Braves don’t have very many.

  26. 26
    braves14 Says:

    Our lineup looks so much better without Francoeur in it.

  27. 27
    barrycuda Says:

    is this site really full of badass tough guys??…….or a bunch of sniveling little weasels rooting for someone to get hurt?

  28. 28
    Smitty Says:

    I think McCann will die by the end of July

  29. 29
    Smitty Says:

    Thanks barrycuda,

    I am a bad ass!

  30. 30
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Bad-ass weasels.

  31. 31
    barrycuda Says:

    thats about what i figured

  32. 32
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Actually, I just changed the tagline to “Bad-Ass Weasels.”

  33. 33
    Boomer Says:

    Back in the USA. Go Braves!

  34. 34
    Smitty Says:

    Actually I perfer the term,
    “Bad Mother F*#ker”

  35. 35
    Douglass Says:

    For the record, I am 100% hulking bad-ass tough guy.

  36. 36
    barrycuda Says:

    how does your mother feel about that one Smitty?

  37. 37
    braves14 Says:

    I’m more like Samuel L. Jackson than Brent Lillibridge!

  38. 38
    barrycuda Says:

    ol’ Sam L. probably cant hit either.

  39. 39
    Douglass Says:

    Pllllaaaaaay baaaaall….

    (sorry)

  40. 40
    DJ Says:

    Has Tim been topping 90mph in his last couple of starts? Looks to be 89/90 today.

  41. 41
    avery Says:

    MLB gamecast says BJones is actually in RF w/ Norton in left. If so, I like that arangement even more.

  42. 42
    Douglass Says:

    His velocity is fine. he’s hit 92 on at least 3 fastballst his inning, that’s the norm with 82 changeup, 86 slider….he’s fine.

  43. 43
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Why is Hudson pitching like Atrosta?

  44. 44
    Stephen Says:

    I am missing the commentary on MLB.com–is anybody else having the same problem? Since it may be Chip, its actually nice…

  45. 45
    Douglass Says:

    Joe continuing to bitch about Ichiro having that on the back of his uniform.

    :continues rolling eyes:

  46. 46
    Stephen Says:

    9 pitches…nice way to save time…

  47. 47
    ububba Says:

    Hell, I remember when Pete Maravich had “Pistol” on his back.

  48. 48
    phil Says:

    Atrosta…that’s funny

  49. 49
    braves14 Says:

    Once, there were Mariners fans who complained that they had a guy with “Simpson” on the back of his uniform.

  50. 50
    Douglass Says:

    nice. burn.

  51. 51
    Mac Thomason Says:

    The Braves, of course, are the franchise that put nicknames on the back of their uniforms.

  52. 52
    ububba Says:

    “Channel 17″

    That’s back when Terrible Ted really was kinda nuts, but we loved him for it.

  53. 53
    Douglass Says:

    Atta boy tex!

    (Bout time.)

  54. 54
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Scott Boras: “That’s another million!”

  55. 55
    braves14 Says:

    Tex!

  56. 56
    ububba Says:

    Helluva DP there.

  57. 57
    Smitty Says:

    barrycuda,

    My mom is fine with it, but your mother LOVES it.

  58. 58
    Douglass Says:

    and smitty throws down the gauntlet.

  59. 59
    braves14 Says:

    Looks like teams are realizing that Blanco has about a strong of an arm as Danny Wuerffel.

  60. 60
    Smitty Says:

    Douglass,

    Throwing down the gauntlet is in the Bad Mother F*#cker code.

    I like this Ibanez guy. I wonder what it would take to get him

  61. 61
    Smitty Says:

    braves 14,

    I hate Danny Wuerffel, but at least his arm was acurate.

    Blanco’s arm is a gun, without rifling and no powder in the shell casing

  62. 62
    Mac Thomason Says:

    It’s an arquebus.

  63. 63
    Smitty Says:

    Maybe it is just a super soaker

  64. 64
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Francoeur, of course, has a blunderbuss.

  65. 65
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Meanwhile, Hudson has thrown 50 pitches through three, while Silva is looking at maybe the mid-thirties.

  66. 66
    Smitty Says:

    Mac,

    I think you just sumed up our whole season with the pitch count.

    I hope TP gets a managerial job this winter

  67. 67
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Because of the two hits, he’s up to 40. Still…

  68. 68
    Stephen Says:

    We are in danger of ending Silva’s streak of bad pitching….Not that I am surprised at this point….

  69. 69
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Nice play, KJ. You know, he’s probably the team’s best defensive player right now. Scary, huh?

  70. 70
    Stephen Says:

    Nice DP—Huddy deserves a 6 pitch inning….

  71. 71
    Douglass Says:

    Tex does it again!

  72. 72
    Mac Thomason Says:

    [BORAS]Another million![/BORAS]

  73. 73
    Dan Says:

    Another million.

  74. 74
    braves14 Says:

    I’d say Tex is the best with the glove on the field right now. (I say that without looking at any stats.)

    And as I speak, he homers again

  75. 75
    Douglass Says:

    McCann make it back to back!

  76. 76
    braves14 Says:

    Back-to-back!

  77. 77
    mraver Says:

    I mean, I guess one at a time isn’t so bad. :-D

  78. 78
    Godot Says:

    I don’t want to defend TP, but Frenchy apart, this team hits pretty patiently. Silva is a guy you hit or not. You are not going to run the pitch count up on him, as all he does is throw strikes.

    Tex? really..Maybe Boras told him Seattle was a possible suitor.

    Mac!!!

  79. 79
    Mac Thomason Says:

    According to Plus/Minus, Teixeira is the eleventh-best defensive first baseman in baseball, while KJ is the 22nd-best second baseman. So yeah, you’re probably right. Yunel and Chipper are by far the team’s best defensive players…

  80. 80
    Douglass Says:

    Yeah, but wouldn’t you rather have Khalil Greene than Yunel?

  81. 81
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Just a personal thing… Can we not call McCann “Mac”, call him “Heap” or something else? ‘Cause I scan all these comments and it confuses me when my name pops up.

  82. 82
    ububba Says:

    Well, if this lineup’s gonna be competitive at all, our good hitters are gonna hafta rake. Let’s tack on some more, boys.

  83. 83
    Douglass Says:

    Hits by Norton, Hudson, and Blanco get us another one! Who is this team?

  84. 84
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Douglass… Yunel is rated as the best shortstop in the majors, and it’s not close.

    Shortstop
    2008
    Rank Player +/-
    1 Yunel Escobar +19
    2 Orlando Cabrera +12
    3 Troy Tulowitzki +9
    4 J.J. Hardy +8
    5 Omar Vizquel +7
    6 Erick Aybar +6
    7 Cristian Guzman +5
    8 Maicer Izturis +3
    9 Omar Quintanilla +3
    10 Cesar Izturis +2

  85. 85
    Douglass Says:

    Hah, I know this Mac. I was referencing a spat I had on hear with Bethany last week when I made the exact claim you just made and had Bethany attack me because “she hates him” and “didn’t believe” my stats.

  86. 86
    Dan Says:

    I think the team is rallying knowing their rally-killer is on the bench today.

  87. 87
    Douglass Says:

    Guess I should add that when I pressed her to say who she would rather have Khalil Greene (LOL) was the name she came up with.

  88. 88
    Godot Says:

    Yunel is ahead both by +/- and RZR. UZR had him in front by a mile too.

  89. 89
    braves14 Says:

    Khalil Greene? Clemson, blaaahhh

  90. 90
    mraver Says:

    Adrian Beltre is like the only good signing Bavasi made. Ever.

  91. 91
    Douglass Says:

    As a very sarcastic person, sometimes I forget how difficult sarcasm can be to detect on the internets.

  92. 92
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Just for amusement’s sake, selections from Baseball Prospectus:

    [T]he shortstop job belongs to Escobar, but it’s not clear he’s good enough to hold it… batting average will be closer to .280… Escobar is not a superior defensive player, either. Brent Lillibridge could pass him by August.

    “Also, Chipper Jones should be in left field.”

  93. 93
    mraver Says:

    I think you get into sample size issues when you look at any statistic over half a season, but I imagine defensive ones in particular could get pretty exaggerated. Not saying they’re not accurate in this case, but Tex has always had a strong defensive reputation, and IIRC has done well on defensive metrics in the past, so I’d be surprised if he suddenly became mediocre.

  94. 94
    Douglass Says:

    I dunno Mac, I think Lillibridge still might pass him by August.

    (unless we make a move for Khalil Greene)

    (see? sarcasm.)

  95. 95
    Jason Says:

    Figures that the rain down here would knock out DirecTV during a game in which the Braves were actually playing well.

  96. 96
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I am not impressed by Suzuki.

  97. 97
    mraver Says:

    Heh. Yeah. I asked Sheehan about it in a chat earlier (indirectly), and he pointed to the slump that Escobar was in at the time. It is accurate that the power numbers aren’t there like you would like from Escobar, but his walk rate is up over last year, so even though he’s taken a BABIP hit, his OBA has improved.

    The defense has been fantastic, though, for Escobar, and while he’ll never be a top-teir guy offensively, he’s looking like he should be better than the proverbial “futility infielder”.

  98. 98
    braves14 Says:

    Another promising thing offensively for Yunel is the much improved walk rate — even batting right in front of Chipper much of the time.

  99. 99
    Smitty Says:

    Ah, a former Vol.

  100. 100
    Douglass Says:

    Plus, Boog and Joe says he’s just getting his ‘man strength.’ So he’s got that goin for him, which is nice.

  101. 101
    mraver Says:

    Knuckleballers are funny.

  102. 102
    mraver Says:

    For those of you worried about Kyle Davies, he got bombed today. >_<

  103. 103
    Smitty Says:

    I’d send McCann here

  104. 104
    Smitty Says:

    A check swing double. Silly Norton

  105. 105
    braves14 Says:

    This is nice.

  106. 106
    Smitty Says:

    Gotay is playing very well

  107. 107
    mraver Says:

    I’m liking this game!

  108. 108
    Douglass Says:

    Indeed.

  109. 109
    Smitty Says:

    Maybe that come back win last night has put some life in this team. Or maybe it is that Frenchy is on the bench and can’t hurt the team

  110. 110
    Phillip Says:

    McCann should have “B.A. Weasel” on the back of his jersey.

  111. 111
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Ryan Rowland-Smith, of the Sydney Rowland-Smiths…

  112. 112
    braves14 Says:

    Who fed Teixiera his wheaties?

  113. 113
    Mac Thomason Says:

    [BORAS]That’s a two-millioner.[/BORAS]

  114. 114
    Dan Says:

    Another million!

  115. 115
    Smitty Says:

    Well I think Tex just won the player of the gmae honors over Hudson

  116. 116
    Smitty Says:

    If this guys keeps hitting, we might have something…

  117. 117
    Smitty Says:

    Angels up 3-1 in Philly in the 7th

  118. 118
    Smitty Says:

    well Frenchy, get a pinch hit

  119. 119
    Roberto Petagine Says:

    Yes.. now its the time to trade Tex.. Tex for Looney and Kemp!!… do it Frank.. do it do it

  120. 120
    Rob B Says:

    I was expecting a ground out. At least Jeff’s keeping me on my toes.

  121. 121
    Smitty Says:

    His strike out form is good though

  122. 122
    Jake Says:

    Why not Carlyle for two innings?

  123. 123
    Jake Says:

    Oh wait that would make sense.

  124. 124
    Smitty Says:

    I bet Boyer pitches the 9th

  125. 125
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Why? Gonzalez hasn’t pitched in the series.

  126. 126
    Smitty Says:

    Phillies got a run. Utley K’ed leaving the tying run at 2nd

  127. 127
    braves14 Says:

    Holy smokes, we could be 4 GB. We’re not even .500

  128. 128
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Jerome Jurenovich is Sonny Crockett.

    OMG, I thought I was joking about Gonzalez.

  129. 129
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Lovely.

  130. 130
    Smitty Says:

    Ichiro sucks

  131. 131
    Smitty Says:

    Gonzo doesn’t quite have his fastball back yet

  132. 132
    Smitty Says:

    93 is good, but not letter high

  133. 133
    Smitty Says:

    Going to the 9th in Philly. LAAoASCUSANANHEMW 3 Philly 2. K-Rod should come in.

  134. 134
    braves14 Says:

    Ron Gant is a clown.

  135. 135
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Recap is up. Francoeur sucks.

  136. 136
    jj3bagger Says:

    Don’t know if anybody else noticed or cares, but since Gerald Laird got hurt, the Rangers called up Max Ramirez to back up Salty.

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