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06 Mar

Caption Contest Time

FlaBravesFan supplies the picture, you supply the caption:

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212 Responses to “Caption Contest Time”

  1. 1
    Carpool Tunnel Syndrome Says:

    Joke’s over, Fredi. Give me my jacket back.

  2. 2
    Ethan Says:

    Physique is only a word…

  3. 3
    Jeff M. Says:

    Where’s Bobby?

  4. 4
    spike Says:

    Gammo, Gonzo. Gonzo, Gammo.

  5. 5
    jj3bagger Says:

    ‘Good story Fredi, that reminds me of a ’72 Cape Cod League game …..’

  6. 6
    sdp Says:

    Angvcafl.

  7. 7
    James Says:

    Wait a minute, this isn’t the Red Sox camp.

  8. 8
    FlaBravesFan Says:

    “You know Bobby used to slip me a couple of Benjamins a week to say nice things about the Braves….”

  9. 9
    sansho1 Says:

    For the last time, ma’am, the postgame locker room is not part of the tour.

  10. 10
    stupup74 Says:

    ‘Battle of the Bellies’

  11. 11
    billy-jay Says:

    Your comment here.

  12. 12
    Seat Painter Says:

    So, did I tell you about the time I saw Dean Smith hung in effigy? In CHAPEL HILL?

    Edit: For those who were unaware – Gammons was a sports reporter for the Daily tar Heel – UNC’s student paper – and was riding back with the team from an embarassing defeat at Wake Forest. When the bus arrived back in Chapel Hill, there was an effigy of Dean Smith hanging on an oak tree outside Woollen Gym. Billy Cunningham became enraged, jumped off the bus and tore down the effigy, and the tar Heels went on a huge win streak. Some folks credit that incident with saving Dean’s job. Anyway, just a little bit of Gammons trivia.

  13. 13
    Stu Says:

    Ethan,

    If you’re interested in seeing the honky tonk scene downtown, check out Tootsie’s or Robert’s. There’s always live music, and the people-watching can’t be beat. You could always see who’s at the Ryman (the old Grand Ole Opry house), too — most of my favorite concerts, I’ve seen there.

    As for non-honky-tonk bars, there’s a place called Red Door (on Division) that I really like, but it can get annoyingly crowded on the weekends. South Street (also on Division) is a fun restaurant/bar combo. Bosco’s, over in Hillsboro Village, is a microbrewery with some pretty good food. If you wanna just stay downtown, though, finding bars will not be a problem.

    My favorite restaurants in town are City House (Southern/Italian) and The Local Taco (Mexican, mostly). Best burger: Gabby’s, in a trailer over by the Sounds’ stadium. Best pizza: Mafiaoza’s, in the 12th South area. Best Mexican: Rose Pepper, in East Nashville.

    For breakfast, if you’ve got time, hit the Pancake Pantry, down the street from where Bosco’s is. You’ll have to wait in a long-ish line, mostly outside, but the food is great and it’s a Nashville landmark.

    The best BBQ in town is actually south of town, in Nolensville, at a place called Martin’s. If you’re downtown, though, you may not feel like making that drive. Besides, being from Missouri, you’d probably turn your nose up at it, anyway. :)

  14. 14
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    “You want Dan Uggla to get a few Web Gems? Sure, we can make that happen. You butter my bread, and ESPN will take care of you. Ravech owes me a lot of favors.”

  15. 15
    ryan c Says:

    Peter Gammons, friend to Sabermetrics, orally tests the consistency of the outfield dirt during Spring Training.

    When asked about his strange method to test UZR/150, Gammons replied, “Warning tracks greatly factor into a player’s ability to track a deep fly. If it’s too grainy, then the feet crunch and distress the player’s judgment. If it’s not grainy enough then the brain might not register the change in surface and there’ll be outfielders galore just smashing into wall. Oh, and I like the taste of dirt. It’s earthy.”

  16. 16
    appalachianst Says:

    This is Peter. Peter has bitch tits.

  17. 17
    Smitty Says:

    “Though it is only March, Peter Gammons shows off his Grimace from McDonald’s costume to Braves manager Fredi Gonzales.”

  18. 18
    Stu Says:

    “Fredi, I’m about to go on air with a hot Matsuzaka-for-Teheran rumor.”

    “Walk away and I’ll give you your meds back, Peter.”

  19. 19
    ububba Says:

    For all the Joe Morgan fans:
    http://tinyurl.com/48t3bm7

  20. 20
    csg Says:

    Wait, there are Joe Morgan fans?

  21. 21
    jjschiller Says:

    “No, Peter, I’m FREDI… Peter…. Peter, Bobby isn’t HERE…. PETER!… sigh… yeah, 78 was a hell of a season, Peter.”

  22. 22
    ububba Says:

    #19
    I kid—today, I’m a kidder.

  23. 23
    Ethan Says:

    Stu,

    Fantastic stuff. Thanks. Actually staying at the downtown Courtyard Marriott so I should be in walking distance for a lot of it.

  24. 24
    Jay Says:

    Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez (right) attempts to show Hall of Fame reporter Peter Gammons how to lock his phone’s touch screen in order to prevent butt tweets.

  25. 25
    askia Says:

    WSJ reviews “In the Time of Bobby Cox”, a book I had not heard of and sounds interesting to Braves fans.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704005404576176761933639974.html?KEYWORDS=bobby+cox

  26. 26
    Stu Says:

    LOLink.

  27. 27
    DowneasterJC Says:

    I had the most vivid dream last night where the Braves traded Terehan for Rasmus and Kyle Lhose. I remember it because I kept thinking “wtf.. why was Kyle Lohse involved?” The funny thing was I didn’t dream about a press conference or anything, I dreamed that I read it on MLBTR. The article in my dream even had those update headers that they use when they get new info.

    I think I need help. Or baseball.

  28. 28
    csg Says:

    #25 – Is that real? Please tell me its not. Tyler Bray has his last name on his back? really? what a douche…

    Poll Question – Biggest Douche?
    A. Tyler Bray
    B. Mark Teixeira

    Mrs Pearl is also an idiot.

  29. 29
    Trace Says:

    Definitely is real.

  30. 30
    sansho1 Says:

    DOB: “Fellow #Braves scribe Mark Bowman just found mold on the hoagie roll on his shrimp po-boy here at Roger Dean Stadium. Yikes. Got refund.”

  31. 31
    Ethan Says:

    That’s real? As a joke it’s fantastic, but being real almost defies reality.

  32. 32
    hpotter Says:

    Oswalt line today – 2.2IP, 4H, 5ER, 2HR

  33. 33
    Parish Says:

    Peter Gammons? I thought that was Jamie Moyer.

  34. 34
    Alex R. Says:

    “Freddi, would you say my man boobs are more Paul Johnson or Steve Spurrier?”

  35. 35
    Alex R. Says:

    A Braves fan sends a message to Mets fans at Spring Training, courtesy of Mr. Tiger Blood himself, Charlie Sheen:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Spring-Swing-Braves-fan-uses-Charlie-Sheen-meme?urn=mlb-330696&utm_source=bleacherreport.com&utm_medium=referral

  36. 36
    justhank Says:

    @33 – we have a winner!

  37. 37
    Ethan Says:

    Lemke sounds drunk on the radio broadcast. Reminds me of Joe Namath.

  38. 38
    Tennessee Brave Says:

    No, really, life after ESPN has been good. I’m considering a few endorsement deals -multivitamins, fiber supplements, Spanx for Men…

  39. 39
    Tom Says:

    Judging from his voice, Mark Lemke is behind this movie series:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA&playnext=1&list=PL56E3EB1DFD4B64A2

  40. 40
    csg Says:

    McLouth 1-2, HR…now .467
    Freeman 2-2 .435

  41. 41
    Ethan Says:

    I’ve been really critical of Louth this offseason. Count me as silenced as far as spring training goes.

  42. 42
    Smitty Says:

    @26,

    That is funny!

  43. 43
    John Gaines Says:

    Doesn’t count as a caption, but this was the first thing I thought of when I saw the picture.

  44. 44
    ububba Says:

    Not-That-It’s-Keeping-Me-Up-Nights Dept.

    After running the bases yesterday, Carlos Beltran can’t even DH right now.

  45. 45
    Stu Says:

    Unfortunately, that’s a pretty big deal, fantasy-wise, to me.

  46. 46
    DowneasterJC Says:

    @45

    Classic example of “Drafting Division Rivals Dilemma.”

  47. 47
    nick Says:

    I’ll trade you this green jacket i won in the 1892 Masters for a ball signed by Heyward…. What ta ya say?ehh

  48. 48
    Stu Says:

    Yeah. It’s extremely tough to avoid that dilemma in an NL-only league.

  49. 49
    Darin H Says:

    Fredi, you got to try Depends. I’m peeing right now!

  50. 50
    braves14 Says:

    “Can I start a Jeff Francoeur rumor?”

  51. 51
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Bethany gets a mention by Rob Neyer.

    Full interview here.

  52. 52
    Smitty Says:

    Bethany is famous.

  53. 53
    Rusty S. Says:

    “Sure, put me down for 2 boxes.”

  54. 54
    Hiawatha Terrell Wade Says:

    “Nobody really listens to me anymore. I mean, they still let me go on TV, but…it’s not the same.”

    “I know, Peter. Everything’s gonna be all right.”

  55. 55
    Bethany Says:

    Aw, thanks for mentioning that, Mac. I don’t think I would have pursued any of this if not for Bravesjournal. Finding a great group of people who know so much more than I do about baseball really helped me fall in love with it again. It’s been a crazy couple of weeks, it doesn’t seem real.

  56. 56
    sansho1 Says:

    677 backers already is an incredible number, Bethany. Kickstarter is awesome (as is the Eephus League).

  57. 57
    spike Says:

    Kudos and well done. Most impressive campaign.

  58. 58
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Congrats on a project well deserving, Bethany!

  59. 59
    jj3bagger Says:

    Good for you Bethany, very impressive stuff.

  60. 60
    Ben Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyd6CZEV6Sg&NR=1

  61. 61
    Parish Says:

    Alice Cooper is in the Rock’n’Roll HOF now, but am I to understand Rush isn’t?

  62. 62
    w. josh Says:

    Do we let Canadians into the HoF? Doesn’t seem right. Neil Young notwithstanding, of course.

  63. 63
    spike Says:

    @61, that’s the group that sings about spaceships and fighting trees, right?

  64. 64
    Hap Says:

    Watch the documentary “Rush: Beyond the Lighted Stage” and you will wonder how they are not in the HoF.

  65. 65
    spike Says:

    Listen to “By-Tor And The Snow Dog” and you won’t.

  66. 66
    sansho1 Says:

    They’d have to put Yes in first, wouldn’t they?

  67. 67
    Hap Says:

    Geez, that’s a bit harsh… a song written early in their career and before Pert started doing lyrics is enough to keep them out of the HoF? If that keeps them out then I wonder what qualifies one for entry into the HoF?

  68. 68
    spike Says:

    You know, all fun aside, this is not a bad list at all –
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees

    Seems like it’s a bit small, but that beats being too large imho, and really not much to quarrel with about those selected. It’s not like Kiss is in there or anything. For a commercial enterprise, I’d say this is a really good effort.

    @67, I was just teasing. But they really did have a hilarious 4 album start to their career.

    But let’s put the shoe on the other foot – make the case that they should be in there, besides selling an enormous amount of records.

  69. 69
    sansho1 Says:

    Scratch “Yes” and insert “King Crimson” into my previous post.

    Sooner or later they’ll get around to more prog inductees, but too many people have too little use for the genre. Right now it’s Pink Floyd, Genesis, and Traffic — and I doubt the more “proggy” entries of the latter two were the reason for their inductions.

  70. 70
    Trace Says:

    Besides having the best drummer of all time?

  71. 71
    Hap Says:

    I’m not really very good at creating convincing arguments (I guess that’s why I referenced the documentary because I think it does a good job) but I would say this:
    1. They were and have been a very unique sound in the world of rock and roll.
    2. They continue to tour to this day and sell out large venues which means a lot of people are fans of their stuff.
    3. They have influenced other artists over the span of their career.
    4. For a three man band they create some good music that is not so easy to play.
    5. Neil Peart
    6. They do have a pretty extensive catalog and they are still making new music.
    7. They probably have some good counting stats (like platinum albums or some such).
    8. When I go to concerts I see people from “that younger generation” which tells me they are still drawing new fans to their stuff instead of it just being a bunch of “old farts” like myself.

  72. 72
    spike Says:

    @70, Like my good pal Mark twain said, “Be not simply good, be good for something.” You want to put Neil Peart in the Drummer’s Hall of Fame? Be my guest (although I wonder what exactly you are basing “best” on, aside from constant repetition – I’ll take Al Jackson). Tell me what Rush has done to warrant induction.

  73. 73
    sansho1 Says:

    Geddy Lee is a big baseball fan. That must count for something.

  74. 74
    Trace Says:

    They’re just really, really good musicians. No, I’m not going from reputation about Neal Peart. Limelight has probably the best drum entrance you’ll hear. Also, everyone talks about Tom Sawyer but their best songs are probably YYZ and 2112. Plus, a lot of their “spaceship” music does stand for things that I won’t go into in observance of the no politics rule. And like Hap said, their stuff transcends their generation. (I’m only 20)

    Lastly, they’re promoted in I Love You, Man, which has to count for something, right?

  75. 75
    spike Says:

    @71 –

    Seems like this boils down to two arguments -

    A; They were/are very commercially successful for a long time (2,6,7,8)
    B: Their music is complicated (1,4,5 – ha! unintentional blues joke!)

    I am not sure about 3 – I mean I agree, I guess, but it doesn’t seem particularly broad or deep.

    I just can’t think of anything particularly memorable they have done. They made half a dozen comic-con records, then went down some crazy pop psychology/technology trail, and then three albums about Peart’s personal tragedy. It’s a great career obviously, but for me the RR HoF in my mind skews much more to peak than career.

  76. 76
    spike Says:

    “Plus, a lot of their “spaceship” music does stand for things that I won’t go into in observance of the no politics rule.”

    Thank goodness. But there was a hilarious anecdote recently about them sending a cease and desist order to a certain politician for using their music – the namesake of the self-stated inspiration for 2112 in fact. Delicious, delicious irony.

  77. 77
    JoeyT Says:

    The Hall of Fame seems to be more about lasting influence than anything else. Velvet Underground, for example, was never particularly commercially successful, and they didn’t have a long career, but they were highly influential in rock music.

    I think sansho1 has the right idea. King Crimson should probably be there. I’d probably put Yes in before Rush, though I’m not sure either really fit.

    Although King Crimson is a pretty glaring omission, The Pixies seem like the most obvious band presently excluded. Well, maybe MC5. spike’s right, though. It’s a pretty good list.

  78. 78
    sansho1 Says:

    spike, is there prog you find some worth in? Pink Floyd excluded.

  79. 79
    Stu Says:

    How about prog metal? Mastodon is from the A-T-L.

  80. 80
    justhank Says:

    Any Hall of Fame that doesn’t include Yes or Rush will not be visited by me.

    At their respective peaks, their live musicianship alone should sway you.

    You can argue that their early lyrics were pretentious and foolishly Utopian (or Luddite) but a lot of us were that way and, like them, grew out of it.

  81. 81
    JoeyT Says:

    @79, Tool’s pretty influential. You could make a good argument for them.

  82. 82
    spike Says:

    @78, have I mentioned Pink Floyd is one of my guilty pleasures here before? Gilmour’s love affair with the blues and really cool vintage instruments wins me over. But to answer your question, obviously I owned many Rush albums once upon a time, and for the record, I agree with the idea of King Crimson in the HoF. I don’t mind when a prog song comes on the radio, and definitely spent many hours learning how to play “Roundabout” back in the day.

  83. 83
    chris Says:

    “I used to look like you…until I met Scott Boras.”

  84. 84
    chris Says:

    Stu

    meshuggah is MUCH better than Mastodon (and I really dig me some Mastodon)

  85. 85
    spike Says:

    @81, Dead Kennedys/Black Flag, Motorhead, Scott Walker, T-Rex would work for me on that front.

  86. 86
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Neither Tool nor Mastodon is eligible, obviously. (I prefer both to Meshuggah, though Chris may want to destroy erase improve my opinion.)

    I saw the Rush doc and it actually substantially raised my opinion of them. I think the real question is whether they’re more like the Harold Baines of hard rock or the Eddie Murray of hard rock.

    (The Will Clark of hard rock, IMO, is Queensryche: they’re basically the American Rush, having progressed from early high-pitched yowling metal to latter-period midrange vocals. But their 2-CD greatest hits is terrific, and I even liked their most recent album, Tribe. Similarly, Rush’s latest two, Vapour Trails and Snakes & Arrows, are two of the most palatable and easiest entry points in their career.)

    Say what you want about the Tolkien and Ayn Rand influences on Peart’s lyrics, Moving Pictures is a pretty great album.

    I’d vote for Rush.

  87. 87
    BFedRec Says:

    @Bethany
    A) I just signed up this morning (Kickstarter is like Etsy… pure evil I love so much and can’t resist)
    B) I love, love, love, love the “There is but one game, and that game is Baseball” poster… I may have just printed a copy of the image out to hang in my office for opening day (since the poster is going to the house).

  88. 88
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Speaking of bands that probably shouldn’t be eligible for something called the “Rock & Roll” Hall of Fame, do you guys think Fairport Convention should be in?

  89. 89
    JoeyT Says:

    @85, my reflexive internal response to your comment is, “Wait, Black Flag isn’t in the Hall of Fame?” That’s a pretty big omission. I don’t have enough of an encyclopedic memory to play this game.

  90. 90
    Stu Says:

    Yeah, I wasn’t talking about HoF induction with Mastodon, just asking if spike had any interest.

    I’m tempted to find a way to make fun of Meshuggah and UNC in the same joke, but I don’t have the energy for chris, today.

  91. 91
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Once you’ve inducted Jackson Browne, it’s hard to leave anyone out for not being Rock & Roll enough.

  92. 92
    spike Says:

    @88, I am reminded of Duke Ellington’s famous quote “the jazz word simply means “freedom of expression”, as far as I’m concerned. We stopped using it, I mean, in 1943.” You could easily substitute Rock and Roll and 1958. But wrt to Fairport, obviously a hugely influential group but I know so little about them – I couldn’t say.

    @89 now that the Stooges (and Ramones for some time) are in, I suspect one of the late 70′s american hardcore bands will go in soon

  93. 93
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Black Flag’s further down my list of the bands I really want to see inducted. I’d rather see the Dictators, the New York Dolls, and Television get in first. (The Hall of Fame just ain’t the same without Handsome Dick Manitoba.)

    Stu, if you’re ever looking to make a joke about Meshuggah, may I suggest the track listing of Fredrik Thordendal’s solo album as a good place to start?

  94. 94
    spike Says:

    @90 – I like Mastodon just fine, thanks, although not a connoisseur of the genre. They are good guys too. I can’t go see them play anymore, as I get mildly agoraphobic in packed clubs now in my dotage, but I enjoyed their live performances at the Earl and such a few years back very much indeed.

  95. 95
    Stu Says:

    93—”I, Galactus” would be so much better as “Aye, Galactus”.

  96. 96
    Frank Says:

    Rush vs. Yes vs. … the regular season can’t get here soon enough.

  97. 97
    ryan c Says:

    chipper done with the old school look. he says low-tops never felt right.

  98. 98
    Wills Says:

    Peter Gammons regrets using Tara Reid’s plastic surgeon

  99. 99
    ryan c Says:

    the more i see, the more i think ed lucas is going to make this team. dob has an individual piece up on him.

  100. 100
    JoeyT Says:

    @93, they already have Patti Smith and the Talking Heads, which covers the two most influential artists from that scene. The fact that they have Blondie isn’t really a reason to include, say, Television. You’re pretty familiar with the failing of the “X is more qualified than Y, and Y is in Hall” argument. (Note: I am not specifically referring to the actual band X, even if X is more qualified than Blondie, and Blondie is in the Hall.)

    Black Flag was hugely influential in rock music, and their influence isn’t really reflected elsewhere in the hall.

  101. 101
    ryan c Says:

    jurrjens having control issues and has walked the first 2 batters. ross just gunned down gardner at 3rd to help jj out. jj strikes out granderson.

  102. 102
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Joey, I’m not trying to induct other artists from the scene. I just love the Dics and Television more than most other bands, including Black Flag.

  103. 103
    Smitty Says:

    I’ve been to the RRHOF, the fact that it is in Cleveland and not somewere like Memphis is reason enough to know it is fake.

  104. 104
    Kevin Lee Says:

    Bethany;
    You ROCK!

  105. 105
    ryan c Says:

    jj really not looking good. i wouldnt be worried if he looked good last year, but he looked pretty bad last year.

  106. 106
    Parish Says:

    From Disney:

    JJ was not missing by much. Righted ship. Helped by fortuitous call on Gardner @ 3rd.

    Bunt single should have been throwing error on Bowman.

    Schafer should have made the play in center.

    Montero up now. DP. Inning over. 3-0 Yanks.

  107. 107
    Parish Says:

    Just got a bare hand on a foul ball and it hurt.

  108. 108
    ububba Says:

    Greetings from Miami Beach…

    Congrats, Bethany.

    Critics hate prog-rockers, generally, and being hated by the people who vote for the Rock Hall doesn’t help. (And I confess to seeing them 4 times back in the day.) I saw that doc, too, but it did a good job of showing why some folks just HATE Rush.

    Black Flag’s influence on indie rock is monumental, especially on the DIY touring end of it. There was a time when they were the bravest, hardest-working rock band in America. They took punk rock to middle America by driving there, setting up & playing. And their shows were amazing spectacles.

    It never occurred to me, but Black Flag should probably be in.

  109. 109
    spike Says:

    Ran down to Buford Hwy for some Indian food, and just happened to have the greatest achievement of the greatest American composer in the CD player. It’s an unfair comparison, I know – the expression “an All-Star at every position” should have a photo of the group for a definition. Talk about some perspective, though – put whoever you like in the RR HoF.

  110. 110
    spike Says:

    @107, Gregg Ginn once bitterly complained to me at the old Metroplex that the thing that held them back the most was players constantly quitting the band as there was no money in it at all.

  111. 111
    ryan c Says:

    Looks like Sherrill likes beer…a lot.

  112. 112
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Sherrill is the lefty Kolb.

  113. 113
    Parish Says:

    I think Rush has a better case than many are giving them credit for. They have arguably the best drummer and bassist of all time, they have an incredible length of quality career, and the breadth of their influence on Rock’n’Roll is incredible.

    The last point is what does it for me. I think their influence is greater than that of Alice Cooper, or Genesis, or Yes.

    On another subject, we got Sherrill to get lefties out. Well, he isn’t.

  114. 114
    justhank Says:

    Parish – you’re at a Braves Spring Training game. You’ll get no sympathy from us.
    ——————

    I forget who said it, but my favorite definition of the blues is “a good man feeling bad”.

  115. 115
    ryan c Says:

    and it looks like linebrink is on the brink of being horrible. did we really need to trade for linebrink and sign sherrill? sigh…

  116. 116
    Parish Says:

    The Yanks have been running at will on D. Ross. He finally got someone out. I am not counting the call on Gardner in the 1st.

  117. 117
    Stu Says:

    Speaking of blues music, I’ve only recently gotten into Brothers, the Black Keys’ 2010 record — wow, am I ever enjoying it.

  118. 118
    spike Says:

    Okay, the drummer thing I have let slide because lets face it, they are drummers, but the best bassist? Really? Obviously, anyone is “arguably” the best anything when it comes to purely subjective subjects, but that seems like a stretch – much in the same way that “Neil Peart is the greatest drummer” is. What are these statements based on? “Flashiest”, or “uses the most crap onstage”, I can buy, but “greatest’ sounds an awful lot like “It’s my favorite band, so QED they are the best musicians”.

  119. 119
    Bethany Says:

    @87 I’m glad you like the poster, BFedRec! I’ll see about getting you an extra poster for your office, let me know which kickstarter account is yours.

    @104 Thanks Kevin ^_^

    I don’t know any of these bands but I always enjoyed watching everyone argue over the rock and roll HOF.

  120. 120
    spike Says:

    Okay, 118 came out sounding more combative than I meant to sound. Mea culpa. But it seems to me that the Neil Pearts and Geddy Lees of the world spend a lot more time playing “lead drums” and “lead bass” instead of, you know, rhythmically propelling a song. The next time either of them can sit still for 5 minutes and just do that will be the first time, from what I know of their style.

    This is to me, what “the greatest rock and roll drummer” should sound like – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfWPDGWP568

  121. 121
    JoeyT Says:

    spike, you should go easy picking fights with drummers. There’s strong, and there’s drummer strong. ( http://bit.ly/gDzizg )

  122. 122
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I don’t think technical musicianship should really be the be-all end-all of a rock band — the most technically demanding songs are rarely the best.

  123. 123
    JoeyT Says:

    FWIW, my vote for BEST DRUMMER EVA goes to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnie_Colaiuta

  124. 124
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    She may not be the BEST DRUMMER EVA, but Elaine Hoffman-Watts kicks serious ass.

  125. 125
    justhank Says:

    Forthcoming SI article on Calipari. (No, Stu, you’re not going to like it.)

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1182972/1/index.htm

  126. 126
    Stu Says:

    Thankfully, I’m also not going to read it.

  127. 127
    Parish Says:

    Joe Mather’s body type makes me think more of Ted Danson than Jason Werth.

  128. 128
    Mac Thomason Says:

    And George Sherrill’s makes me think of George Wendt.

  129. 129
    Ethan Says:

    Spike @109

    Well said. Love that box set.

  130. 130
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Brandon Hicks walked!

  131. 131
    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    nice outing by Kimbrel there.

    and I just noticed that we have a catcher named Sucre, which is great because I loved him in Prison Break.

  132. 132
    Parish Says:

    Bases loaded, none out for Braves in 9th.

    Unfortunately Bowman’s up and he hits like a Canadian.

  133. 133
    ryan c Says:

    i seriously love me some matt young. he puts a perfectly executed sac bunt down, but reaches on an errant throw. bases juiced with no out.

  134. 134
    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    The only way that could have worked out worse for Costanza would have been for the catcher to drop that one.

  135. 135
    ryan c Says:

    Co-stan-za!

  136. 136
    ububba Says:

    #110
    Ginn coulda probably kept some of them if he hadn’t made them practice 10 hours a day, every day. And their tours were ridiculous.

    This was back in the days of all-ages shows, so 2 gigs in one venue was pretty normal. They would do tours with, like, 60 shows in 50 days.

    FWIW, I prefer Charlie Watts to Neal Peart, although I’ve heard some turntablists do amazing routines to “Tom Sawyer” (aka “The World’s Greatest Arena Breakbeat.”)

    When DJs bite your beats & cut em up, you’re doing something right. Props to The Peart.

  137. 137
    spike Says:

    @129, if Main Stem comes on, I just about have to pull the car over. It’s so rhythmically compelling, it is difficult to pay full-time attention. Now THAT’S how to play bass and drums.

  138. 138
    Smitty Says:

    Mac
    @128,

    Does that mean we can nickname him “Norm”?

  139. 139
    csg Says:

    Bunting with 2 outs in the 9th down 1 run isnt the best way for Costanza to try and make this team. He isnt Otis Nixon.

  140. 140
    Parish Says:

    Ryan C, are you still in this traffic?

    Getting away from the Ted is much easier than getting away from the Mickey.

    Surveying my friends that play the drums, Peart is considered the best drummer by far. The same could be said of my friends that play bass and Geddy Lee. Granted, my friends will show a bias towards liking the same music I do, but that really does span across several generations.

    I hear your point about “lead drums” and “lead bass” but that sounds more like an issue of taste. I am actually quite amazed at how well these complicated musical elements come together. Think of the harmonics and the playful bass line of Red Barchetta or the combination of all three in Limelight.

    We disagree about how well we like their songs, but their technical skill is hard to argue, especially when you see it live. Neither is the point. I still think if you look at the breadth of their influence and how long it has endured, they belong in the RnR HOF.

  141. 141
    csg Says:

    Tiki Barber coming out of retirement, probably a bad decision for a 36yr old RB

  142. 142
    ububba Says:

    And then there’s the elephant-in-the-room issue of Geddy Lee’s voice.

  143. 143
    SpiralStairs Says:

    This reminds me of a question I posed to a friend a while back. Which will happen first: Sonic Youth getting inducted into the Rock n’ Roll Hall of Fame or Bill James getting inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame.

  144. 144
    DowneasterJC Says:

    If Tom Waits can “sing”, anybody can.

    @122

    Which is why I, personally, can never get into most metal. Especially modern metal. I can appreciate technical ability, but when you’re eschewing any form of soul for the sake of showcasing how technically proficient you are, it’s just not something I want to listen to.

    It may “sound good”, but I just get no enjoyment out of listening to it like I do, say, Ray Charles.

    Edit: I feel like I should clarify that I’m not trying to demean Tom Waits in any way, just that if people can enjoy his voice then there’s really not much room to complain about anyone else.

  145. 145
    sansho1 Says:

    Tiki’s broadcasting career has been downwardly mobile for a while.

  146. 146
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I think it’s gotta be Sonic Youth, because the critical establishment has long adored them. Some day soon a lot of those ’80s bands are going to start going in like ’30s guys on Veterans Committee ballots. There were a lot of Chuck Kleins on the AM dials back then.

    Tom Waits might be best described as a vocalist rather than a singer. You may not like his voice, but he sounds that way on purpose: he’s using his voice as an instrument. Mike Patton’s a great example of another person who might be better categorized as a “vocalist.” Though he can actually sing when he puts his mind to it, as on his album Mondo Cane, a collection of Italian standards he sings in perfect Italian, backed by an orchestra.

  147. 147
    w. josh Says:

    What about the voice of Geddy Lee? How did it get so high? I wonder if he speaks like an ordinary guy….

    And on topic: I’m officially on board the Matt Young bandwagon.

  148. 148
    ryan c Says:

    @140
    wasnt at the game. just no work and had it on the mlb package.

  149. 149
    sdp Says:

    LOL…Zack Greinke fractured a rib playing basketball. Gonna miss at least his first two-three starts of the regular season.

    http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/45257530343030784

  150. 150
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Geddy sounds like a normal Canadian guy.

  151. 151
    DJ Says:

    I don’t know how I feel about the Calipari article. It’s certainly not flattering, but the reporting was even. The whole ‘I’ll burn your village’ quote was a little strange.

  152. 152
    marspr Says:

    @147, props for the Pavement reference, another seminal band that will only get into the Hall of Fame if they buy a ticket.

  153. 153
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I figured I could come up with ten American cities that were obviously better choices for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but actually I could come up with only eight. In roughly order of population, highest to lowest:

    New York
    LA
    Philly
    San Francisco
    Seattle
    Detroit
    Memphis
    Athens

    Who am I missing? I’m leaving out cities like Tupelo associated with just one artist, and also Nashville since it’s really a country town — though inarguably more important in rock history than Cleveland.

  154. 154
    spike Says:

    Cleveland’s argument was that they were the home of the Alan Freed show, and they had 65M dollars to pony up.

  155. 155
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Too bad Paul Allen wasn’t throwing money around yet, Seattle would have been a much better choice.

  156. 156
    sansho1 Says:

    Seattle has the Experience Music Project, funded by Allen, which opened in 2000. It has more of a Northwest music scene concentration, which seems to suit people there fine.

    It looks like this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Aerial_view_of_EMPSFM.jpg

  157. 157
    csg Says:

    Tressel suspended for only two games? That isnt going to cut it, NCAA has really become a joke.

  158. 158
    Smitty Says:

    @157,

    I hope to see all the Bruce Pearl haters give him the same treatment. What say you Dick Vitale?

  159. 159
    Adam M Says:

    157 – Nobody cares, however. The system is a joke, the rules are a joke, the enforcement is a joke. But people keep going to games and watching on television and all the while the NCAA makes piles of money, so nothing changes.

  160. 160
    csg Says:

    Tressel will miss the Akron and Toledo matchups.

  161. 161
    Smitty Says:

    I am sure the Big Ten commish will add two game for him to make it up.

  162. 162
    Smitty Says:

    Good thing he won’t miss St. Mary’s School of the Blind.

  163. 163
    ryan c Says:

    i enjoyed this…
    http://tinyurl.com/4h6mu9s

  164. 164
    spike Says:

    First I’d heard about his Twins signing and release.

  165. 165
    Rusty S. Says:

    Wait a minute, when did Pink Floyd become a guilty pleasure? Neil Diamond is a guilty pleasure. Burt Bacharach is a guilty pleasure. :)

    Geddy Lee looks like Ozzy Osbourne’s corpse.

  166. 166
    Smitty Says:

    Wow, I have to say Tennessee handled the PR side way better than OSU. I think Tressel is gone.

    http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/documents-read-the-actual-jim-tressel-emails-29547

  167. 167
    sansho1 Says:

    Why, because some players sold stuff that was in their legal possession and he knew about it? It makes me sick that what those kids did is even considered a violation.

  168. 168
    Smitty Says:

    He covered it up to keep the players eligible. That is a big deal.

  169. 169
    Ethan Says:

    I don’t see why he did. It’s not like the NCAA did anything.

  170. 170
    Smitty Says:

    Plus, he might have impeded a criminal investigation.

  171. 171
    sansho1 Says:

    I suppose that in the self-sealing world of the NCAA it is. But really, what he covered up here is the least offensive violation I can imagine.

  172. 172
    jj3bagger Says:

    The at bat featuring 6 foot 11 Andrew Brackman pitching to 5 foot 6 former New Mexico Lobo Matt Young was one of the more amusing sights I’ve seen in awhile.

    On the YES broadcast Michael Kay asked Girardi about Uggla’s defense when Girardi was his manager and he spoke very highly of him as a player in general, and said that he was ‘pretty happy’ with his defense, FWIW.

    Also amused that Cypress Hill’s Insane in the Brain is played before a Wilkin Ramirez at bat at a park owned by Disney. Nothing says family friendly quite like Cypress Hill.

  173. 173
    Parish Says:

    That was Brackman?

    He’s the only guy we really hit.

  174. 174
    JoeyT Says:

    @171, considering the heck that Cam Newton went through this season because his dad asked for money, it’s reasonable to think that there is a large segment of college football fans who think players should not be paid. If you think players shouldn’t be paid, there is little difference between giving a kid $200 and giving him a trophy that he then sells for $200. I don’t see a big difference between what Tressel did and a coach finding out that a booster or agent is making cash payments to a player and not reporting it.

    If you really think players shouldn’t be paid, I don’t see how you can avoid coming down hard.

  175. 175
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Phillies have announced that the cortisone shot in Ace Chutley’s knee did not work.

  176. 176
    csg Says:

    Chutley may need a new knee then

  177. 177
    Smitty Says:

    If Chutley Dutley is out, the division gets a lot more interesting. Brown, The Rainbow Warrior, Rollins and Ibanez would really have to step up.

    Maybe Cliff Lee can come in and play second base and hit 25 home runs for them.

  178. 178
    ryan c Says:

    Chutley Dutley sounds like he’s becoming Chudley Dudley.

  179. 179
    sansho1 Says:

    There’s a gigantic gulf of a difference to me between arranging pay-for-play with boosters and a kid selling a legal possession.

  180. 180
    spike Says:

    @177, brown fractured a hamate – an injury KLaw Keith Law (ugh I HATE that) claims takes 12-16 months to fully recover strength from. The Phils will be scrambling a bit for runs for the first 6-8 weeks of the season.

  181. 181
    Mac Thomason Says:

    Hey, let’s start a rumor!

  182. 182
    Stu Says:

    180—It definitely sapped Pedro Alvarez’ power for a long stretch, when he was at Vanderbilt.

  183. 183
    Smitty Says:

    Picture this:

    Philly fans crying about the loss of Brown and Chutley Dutley only to hear the Braves have packaged Freeman, Delgatto and (some other prospect) for Puljos who has agreed to sign an extension (and Liberty Media has okayed a $30 million/year for 9 year deal)

  184. 184
    Kevin Lee Says:

    Anybody taken the Wonderlic Personnel Test (or CCA Test) that’s used at the football combine?
    My buddy’s just applied for an engineering position and took it as part of the interview.

    Is it tough?

  185. 185
    Adam M Says:

    Is there any word on what exactly is wrong with Utley’s knee? He might not be out that long, I thought.

  186. 186
    braves14 Says:

    Well, the Phillies signed no significant position players after putting all of their money in the Lee basket.

  187. 187
    spike Says:

    @186, it’s the Howard basket that is/will be killing them.

    @185 – here you go –

    Phillies team physician Michael Ciccotti issued the following statement regarding Chase Utley’s health status:

    “Chase has had mild patellar tendinitis and chondromalacia in the past that have previously resolved quickly. His symptoms returned during his off-season workouts, and he developed some anterior knee pain consistent with his prior history. When he reported to spring training this year, his knee was treated as it had been in the past, however his symptoms continued. An MRI was obtained that demonstrated his prior tendinitis, chondromalacia, and bone inflammation. His chondromalacia symptoms persisted in spite of focused non-operative care, including a cortisone injection. A subsequent cartilage-specific MRI was obtained confirming the initial diagnosis. Continued non-operative treatment is being carried out and additional opinions will be obtained.”

    And now they aren’t ruling out surgery – http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/Phillies_still_examining_options_dont_rule_out_surgery_for_Utley.html

  188. 188
    ryan c Says:

    This seems very similar to last year when the Phillies had injury issues in Spring that affected the first half of the season (95 games in, we had a 7 game lead in the division). Let’s hope that Chipper and the and the Melky-less Braves can stay healthy so the Braves can continue to cash in on the Phillies misfortunes.

  189. 189
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    As much as I loathe Utley for killing us, I never want to root for a guy like that to be injured, and I wouldn’t want to have to predicate my division hopes on injuries to the Phillies. I hope they take a good long while to rehab him, but I hope he comes back healthy.

    I just hope the injury bug that hit the Cardinals and Phillies stays the hell away from us.

  190. 190
    DowneasterJC Says:

    It’s okay, I specifically engineered this injury bug to only affect the Cardinals and the Phillies. I also have one ready for the Nationals and Marlins, should they prove to be a problem within the division.

  191. 191
    sansho1 Says:

    I’ve also enjoyed your past work with the Mets.

  192. 192
    DowneasterJC Says:

    The Mets are capable of self destruction of laughable proportions without my help.

  193. 193
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I think our involvement with Mike Hampton has made us immune to the injury bug.

    Have any of the gamers here played MLB 2K11 yet? I’m thinking about trading some games in and picking it up.

  194. 194
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    Speaking of the Mets, apparently, Oliver Perez won’t be in the Mets rotation this year. Rats.

  195. 195
    DowneasterJC Says:

    I’m still torn between 2k11 and The Show ’11. I’ll probably wait and see which one has the first price drop and just pick that one up.

  196. 196
    ryan c Says:

    do any of you guys think the braves have any real intentions of actually giving rodrigo lopez a real look for the 5th spot? i sure hope not.

    and schafer strikes out again. that’s 7 in 30 plate appearances. on the other hand, matt young has 1 in 17 plate appearances.

  197. 197
    sdp Says:

    @No. Lopez will be AAA filler. It’s Mike Minor’s job to lose.

  198. 198
    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    anybody else holding their breath right now?

  199. 199
    sdp Says:

    It was Luis Salazar, A+-Lynchburg manager. Drilled in the head by a McCann foul liner.

  200. 200
    csg Says:

    I think there is no chance that Schafer makes this team as a 4th OF’r. He needs AB’s and Young seems like the perfect bench player. Meanwhile, Mather looks awful too.

  201. 201
    krugerindustrialsmoothing Says:

    hopefully he’s ok, sounded pretty scary the way it was being described.

  202. 202
    csg Says:

    Luis was airlifted to the Hospital. Hopefully he’ll be ok, but no update yet.

  203. 203
    PaulV Says:

    I had chondromalacia in my right knee 20 years ago. I had to walk down steps sideways. I had gotten up to 260# on leg extensions. I had the bright idea of lifting 70% of my usual left ( 180#) with two legs and lowering it with one. Rest helped in about a month and have never tried to do it again. Complete rest and come back by all star break.

  204. 204
    Ethan Says:

    Did Lemke just compare minor league Dominican players in spring training to Crips and Bloods?

  205. 205
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I’m kind of hoping that we don’t have to open the year with something called “Yohan Flande” in the bullpen.

  206. 206
    csg Says:

    is that worse than “Scott Proctor”

  207. 207
    Mac Thomason Says:

    It’s Portuguese for “Scott Proctor”.

  208. 208
    RobBroad4th Says:

    I hope Salazar is okay. If I were hit in the face by a line drive, I think the last thing I’d want to do is spend 20 minutes in a helicopter. Sounds miserable.

  209. 209
    Parish Says:

    Saw Scott Diamond pitch today for the Twins. He was easily the best guy they had on the mound today and that includes Liriano.

    I am not sure the Twins will let us have him back.

    On another note, Adam Jones is awesome.

  210. 210
    John Gaines Says:

    @195

    If you have a PS3, I would definitely go with The Show. It’s very good this year.

  211. 211
    Mac Thomason Says:

    New post.

  212. 212
    T Wind Says:

    Yep. I work at Taco Bell on the side. Can I have my Jacket back now?

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