Braves Journal, The House That Mac Built

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26 Jul

Hi there

I’m currently zonked out on morphine and percoset, and waiting an X-ray. Let’s just say that I am not currently functioning at 100 percent. Call it Snitker Mode. I also have the manual dexterity of Brooks Conrad playing short, which limits my typing. More later.

749 Responses to “Hi there”

  1. 1
    Bethany Says:

    Great to hear from you, Mac! Take it easy.

  2. 2
    Coop Says:

    Welcome back, Mac. Enjoy the drugs.

  3. 3
    Adam R Says:

    I’ve said it before: regular posters should pick one game to watch under the influence of something and see how things go on here. I bet it would be classic.

    The trade deadline is a game of chicken. Proctor, Heyward, Schafer, and Louth are doing their best to make sure it’s Wren that blinks first.

  4. 4
    Smitty Says:

    @3

    I vote for a playoff game

  5. 5
    jjschiller Says:

    Glad you’re back, Mac.

  6. 6
    clarke Says:

    Glad to hear you are on the mends Mac.

  7. 7
    Ray Says:

    Get well Mac.
    Here`s something to light up your mood (old german proverb: “laughing is the best medicine”):
    http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/7/26/2294162/mlb-power-rankings-cardinals-at-the-top-astros-at-the-bottom
    (esp. no 11 and 28)

  8. 8
    Timo Says:

    Willkommen zurück, Mac!

  9. 9
    Alex Remington (Another Alex R.) Says:

    I agree, Mac should have Brian Jordan’s job. But for now I’ll count my blessings. Glad to have you back with us, maestro.

  10. 10
    spike Says:

    Hey, speaking of rock and roll….

    Black Flag – Wasted

  11. 11
    Marc Schneider Says:

    Glad you are on the road to recovery, Mac. Just don’t watch Gonzalez, McLouth, or Schaefer hit or you will have a setback.

  12. 12
    Remy Says:

    Glad you’re back, Mac. Motor problems aside, now might be a good time to do some automatic writing. Get well soon!

  13. 13
    csg Says:

    Schafer
    Prado
    BMac
    Freeman
    Uggla
    Heyward
    Nate
    Lugo

  14. 14
    Putter Says:

    Lugo at short…I like it

  15. 15
    Nick Says:

    No word yet on Chipper, other than that he’s obviously not playing tonight?

  16. 16
    Johnny Says:

    weeeeellllllcooooommmmmmeee bbbbbbaaaaaaackkkkkk mmmmmmmmmaaaaaaccccccccc.
    @7 funny stuff, thanks.

  17. 17
    ububba Says:

    #10
    And, of course, the Camper Van Beethoven version:

    http://tinyurl.com/44z7z99

  18. 18
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Watching a lot of MLB Network this week. I never knew Kevin Millar was such a douche.

  19. 19
    Jeremy Says:

    Rosenthal on Twitter:

    Sources: #Phillies most aggressive on Pence. #RedSox have inquired, tough finding match. #Braves not currently involved. #tradedeadline #MLB

    Watch the Phillies acquire Pence and the Braves get bupkis.

  20. 20
    reaganman Says:

    If the Royals get Upton, we could get Lorenzo Cain. That Minor for Cain deal kinda makes sense in hindsight.

  21. 21
    Ethan Says:

    We need to destroy Pittsburgh tonight.

    As I watched the game last night, all I could think was that if the team wanted to show they were more talented than the Pirates yet still lose the game, they couldn’t have done a better job.

    James McDonald would be our #3 in AAA right now.

  22. 22
    braves14 Says:

    James McDonald would be our #3 in AAA right now.

    He’s better than Lowe.

  23. 23
    PeteOrr Says:

    Apparently Schafer might have to go on the DL after all. Good thing Fredi dialed up his thunderous bat to pinch hit last night in a crucial spot to reset his DL clock. I was really worried that I wouldn’t get to see enough McLouth in CF before he leaves us for good.

  24. 24
    braves14 Says:

    Revised lineup: McLouth 8 Prado 5 McCann 2 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 Hinske 7 Heyward 9 Lugo 6 Hanson 1

  25. 25
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Sheesh. I think Schafer going to the DL will officially take us out of the Beltran sweepstakes (at least if that was the only move Wren planned to make) and increase our interest in Upton and/or Pence.

  26. 26
    Mark Graybill Says:

    Glad to see that neither the surgery nor the drugs has dulled your sharp wit.

    I feel like I may have to take some drugs to prepare for the inevitably disappointing trade (or non-trade) the Braves are about to make . . .

  27. 27
    Smitty Says:

    Joe Alleva to be announce as the new Tennessee AD

  28. 28
    Rusty S. Says:

    @23 – I think this has come up before, but I blame that on Wren. Tell your manager not to use him, or DL him.

  29. 29
    drewdat Says:

    @27

    Also a Tennessee fan, but why not… he shouldn’t have any problems fitting in:

    In 2006, Alleva and his sons were involved in a boating accident which left Alleva with an injured head. His son, J.D., was charged with operating a boat while impaired after refusing to give a blood sample for testing. Three officers smelled alcohol on him hours after the incident.

    Also dealt with Duke lacrosse. An old pro.

  30. 30
    Smitty Says:

    @29

    He also hired three football coaches while at Duke. But football doesn’t’ count at Duke

  31. 31
    Smitty Says:

    Nats just got Johnny Gomes. Thank God

  32. 32
    PeteOrr Says:

    @31 – Ha! I feel like a guest on Maury who just found out that the other guy is the father. Whew!

  33. 33
    ububba Says:

    FWIW, Peter Gammons today on WFAN said, “A couple of friends of mine who work for the Braves have insisted all along that they will trade Mike Minor & a lesser prospect [for Beltran], and that might do it.”

    Nothing we didn’t kinda know, but it’s nice to believe we’re still in the race.

  34. 34
    Ethan Says:

    @22- Obviously the salaries skew it, but based solely on talent and track record, you would trade Derek Lowe for James McDonald? There’s no way in hell I would.

  35. 35
    Bethany Says:

    Tommy Hanson, superstar.

  36. 36
    Smitty Says:

    @33

    That would be overpaying. Remember we thought Heyward could play first? Now he can barley man right

  37. 37
    braves14 Says:

    Also, McDonald is 26, was a decent prospect, and throws pretty hard. Considering that going forward he’s likely to be better than Lowe due to age, yes, I would trade them straight up even if salary wasn’t a factor.

  38. 38
    Ethan Says:

    An Episode…

  39. 39
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I’m going to attempt a morning recap; I should be running on what passes for peak performance then.

  40. 40
    braves14 Says:

    That’s the second time this week Heyward has misplayed a double into a triple.

  41. 41
    Frank Says:

    As night follows day McLouth will be running.

  42. 42
    Frank Says:

    At least he made it

  43. 43
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Total crap.

  44. 44
    Putter Says:

    Chip makes me want to become a fan of another team

  45. 45
    Frank Says:

    Minor and more for a rental? No thanks. I might do Minor for Beltran plus Isringhausen.

  46. 46
    DowneasterJC Says:

    At this rate, Beltran might reject a trade to the Braves if we can’t even beat the Pirates.

  47. 47
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    The sad part is that was the best portion of our lineup.

  48. 48
    jjschiller Says:

    This team makes me want to be a Pirates fan.

  49. 49
    Stu Says:

    45—Exactly. Gammons appears to be as clueless as usual.

  50. 50
    Bethany Says:

    Why is it that this team is incapable of hitting a sac fly?

  51. 51
    drewdat Says:

    Karstens has been the luckiest pitcher in the majors (based on ERA-FIP) to this point. Glad to see it will continue at least one more game.

  52. 52
    Bethany Says:

    Geez, I hate Tommy Hanson.

  53. 53
    RobBroad4th Says:

    There’s our best pitcher, gang.

  54. 54
    braves14 Says:

    This shit is getting old.

  55. 55
    Morrie Says:

    is there a replay on Sports South? I just turned it on and its the same old crap

  56. 56
    drewdat Says:

    Proctor time?

  57. 57
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    That looked like one of his Coors Field pitches.

  58. 58
    drewdat Says:

    @55,

    At least the Pirates are earning their runs this time instead of relying on McLouth like they did in 2008.

  59. 59
    Tom Says:

    Pathetic. Just pathetic. A whole lotta losin’ goin on lately. What the hell has happened to Hanson during the break?

    And should we trade Mike Minor to a division rival for two month of a player we have no room for I might throw up.

    Yes, I am in a goddam bad mood. Sorry. Good night.

  60. 60
    RobBroad4th Says:

    At this point, Beltran would be the second best hitter on the team by a long shot. We’d make room for him.

  61. 61
    Ethan Says:

    McDonald’s K’s, BB’s and hits per 9 are worse this year than his career norms. Assuming that he improves simply because of his age and current velocity isn’t enough IMO. You could fill books with guys who have had careers similar to McDonald’s up to this point and then flamed out.

    I’ll take Derek Lowe, and that’s not even mentioning the postseason, where he has a legit and recent track record.

  62. 62
    Morrie Says:

    Hanson should be fined for every run he gives up in the first 2 innings. Maybe that will motivate him not to suck horribly early in the games

  63. 63
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    It only took two years for Joe Simpson to notice the slow pace of Hanson’s delivery.

  64. 64
    Stu Says:

    27—Doesn’t look like that’s true.

  65. 65
    jjschiller Says:

    Maybe we can trade Tommy Hanson to a division rival, so that maybe we can score some runs?

    If we get a hitter back, bonus.

  66. 66
    braves14 Says:

    61 — Really? You’d take a 38 year old sinkerballer in decline who has only slightly performed better (arguably) this season than a 26 year old with better K rates? Sounds like something Steve Phillips would have done with the Mets.

  67. 67
    Putter Says:

    Yeah, instead of hanging on to all of the young pitching lets dump Hanson and call one of them up. I am tiring of his episodes and Wren’s lack of urgency

  68. 68
    Catz Says:

    Uggla is at .200!

  69. 69
    braves14 Says:

    McDonald’s K rates aren’t even really down. His career K per 9 ratio is 7.8 and his season number is 7.7. It’s lower than when he was used as a reliever when he was first called up, yes, but that’s probably because of the inning increase now that he’s a starter and has to pace himself. Hits per 9 innings is not a dependable metric to predict future performance. He allows a few more homers than you’d like and walks a few more, but remember we’re comparing him with Derek Lowe going forward whose periperhals are likely to decline to similar HR and BB ratios.

  70. 70
    Ethan Says:

    You forgot the worse hit rate and the significantly worse HR and BB rate.

    You could frame it in a million ways, but if I’m Frank Wren and and the Pirates offer me James McDonald for Lowe contingent upon me paying the difference in their salaries over the next two years, I would say no and not think twice about it.

  71. 71
    braves14 Says:

    I edited my post at #69 while you were writing #70 that answers your first paragraph.

  72. 72
    Stu Says:

    All of a sudden, the Braves suck.

  73. 73
    Putter Says:

    Maybe Wren really wants to become a seller and stockpile more pitching that he won’t ever trade

  74. 74
    Bethany Says:

    Dan!!!7!!!!!!!!

  75. 75
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Unban the Dan!

  76. 76
    DJ Says:

    ‘Roasting hot?’ LOL

  77. 77
    braves14 Says:

    It’s nice to have Dan Uggla join us.

  78. 78
    DJ Says:

    It’d be nice to have Jason do something here.

  79. 79
    Bethany Says:

    Wow! Success!!!

  80. 80
    Grst Says:

    Good result, but that’s a pitch Heyward should have been able to drive.

  81. 81
    jjschiller Says:

    Runs…

    I’m… confused.

  82. 82
    Ethan Says:

    Annnd our SS’s still collectively can’t hit for shit.

    I know Yunel’s a douche, but couldn’t they’ve tried a brain transplant or something?

  83. 83
    drewdat Says:

    3-3, right? Yahoo boxscore is contradicting itself.

    Yep, in case anyone else was confused.

  84. 84
    sdp Says:

    Maybe I’ve got the mind of a 13-year-old, but “Freeman’s Seamen” is an ill-advised fan group.

  85. 85
    Catz Says:

    @84: I think it’s pretty hilarious, actually

  86. 86
    Smitty Says:

    @63

    They were set to announce him and LSU gave him more money at the last second.

  87. 87
    Dan Says:

    Second and third, no one out and it wouldn’t surprise anyone here if the Braves do not score.

  88. 88
    DowneasterJC Says:

    A strikeout is probably the best outcome.

  89. 89
    Putter Says:

    Still hate McOut

  90. 90
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Boy I’m tired of McLouth.

  91. 91
    Putter Says:

    But this offense is just fine….screw off Wren

  92. 92
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Unbelievable.

  93. 93
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    This is getting old.

  94. 94
    Catz Says:

    I thought it was pretty believable…

  95. 95
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    @91 Wren would be in a better position to deal for everything this team needed if he didn’t have cheap, corporate ownership that would rather maximize profit than wins.

  96. 96
    Smitty Says:

    Im waiting on DOB and Bowman to blame the fan for touching the ball and not Lugo, McOut and Prado for not scoring the run

  97. 97
    kc Says:

    Take care Mac.

    I really hate Nate.

  98. 98
    Trace Says:

    To be honest, I was pretty pissed that the fan picked up the ball cause I knew we wouldn’t score after that.

  99. 99
    kc Says:

    @91 Chipper says the same thing.

  100. 100
    Putter Says:

    Nice at bats to start the inning by Mac and Freeman

  101. 101
    Smitty Says:

    @99

    Chipper shouldn’t be allowed to talk to the press unless he plays three games in a row.

    I think Heyward should call him out. I understand the knee stuff, but a tweaked thigh muscle?

  102. 102
    Putter Says:

    The shirt on the Uggla bobblehead doesn’t look tight enough

  103. 103
    drewdat Says:

    At least Pittsburgh is out of lefties? Assuming Beimel doesn’t mow down several more guys.

  104. 104
    Dan Says:

    Miss Escobar. It’d be nice to have a short stop that provided some offense again. Cox and crew ran him out of town simply because they didn’t like his attitude.

  105. 105
    Smitty Says:

    Vizcaino gives up a solo homer in his first AAA inning, according to former wrestling announcer Tony Schivone

  106. 106
    Smitty Says:

    @104

    Most of the people on this site were fed up with him too.

  107. 107
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Nicely done!

    Has anyone else noticed that Venters is a stud?

  108. 108
    Smitty Says:

    I just asked Tony Schiavone ‘Have you ever been calling a G-Braves game and just felt like yelling “Look down in the bull pen…OH MY GOD…IT’S STING!’

  109. 109
    csg Says:

    Two awful AB’s from Hinski and Jhey there

  110. 110
    Smitty Says:

    Glad to see Chipper’s wittle weggy isn’t too bad!

  111. 111
    kc Says:

    @101 Agree 100%.

    @106 Let’s just move on from the Yunel trade.

  112. 112
    csg Says:

    Might just need to DL Chipper again. This looks painful.

  113. 113
    Mike N. Says:

    I went to the same high school as Tony Schiavone’s sons and two of them were announcers for our baseball team. Every once in a while they wouldn’t be able to do it and Tony would step in. So on more than one occasion I was introduced into the game, be it as a reliever or batter, by Tony Schiavone.

  114. 114
    Smitty Says:

    They are talking like Chipper lost his leg in Vietnam or something

  115. 115
    Dan Says:

    Let’s just move on from the Yunel trade.

    It’d be nice to, but watching the .261 OBP starting short stop flail at pitches away and in the dirt day-in and day-out makes it hard to forget.

    Gonzalez is Francoeur without the on-base ability and the home run threat. Think about that.

  116. 116
    Putter Says:

    @108 Hilarious…laughed out loud at that one

  117. 117
    Grst Says:

    Blaming the trade misses the point that Yunel was not willing to play with any reasonable degree of effort for this team anymore. Blame him, not the people who acted on that fact.

  118. 118
    Smitty Says:

    “Wait a minuet Mike Tenay…could it be? THAT’S MIKE N’S MUSIC! THIS COULD BE THE GREATEST MOMENT IN SPORTS HISTORY!”

  119. 119
    Smitty Says:

    Tony answered me:

    LOL. no but I’ve felt like yelling. It’s wild, the umpire has a chair, we are out of time….!!!!

    Classic

  120. 120
    Grst Says:

    Using our best relievers in a tie game? Who taught Fredi how to properly use a bullpen? Oh right, we’re at “home”, so that means you’re actually supposed to do the right thing.

  121. 121
    Mike N. Says:

    And then I would emerge from the dugout shrouded by smoke and pyrotechnics.

  122. 122
    drewdat Says:

    Nice use of Kimbrel here. Linebrink should be able to hold McCutchen down.

    Eh, 7-8-9 hitters even if he blows it. I think the point still stands, especially after Fredi’s quote from earlier in the year. It didn’t make sense to hold onto Kimbrel then, but I think it did this time.

  123. 123
    kc Says:

    @122 Thank god we are at home. Otherwise we will have another Kimbrel debate again.

    @115 You mean Frenchy actually has on-base ability and is a home run threat? I see them as essentially the same player while AAG can actually play some defense. Thank goodness they are not on the same team. Unfortunately we have Nate.

  124. 124
    P Says:

    That was nice.

  125. 125
    Smitty Says:

    Wow, did we switch uniforms?

  126. 126
    Stu Says:

    I love the squeeze.

  127. 127
    Dan Says:

    Yay sign-stealing.

  128. 128
    braves14 Says:

    I think the Braves have someone that is adept at stealing signs. They had a successful pitchout in Colorado too.

  129. 129
    Dan Says:

    You mean Frenchy actually has on-base ability

    Not really. But even at his worst, Francoeur’s OBP never fell to .261. It usually hovered in the .290-.310 range.

  130. 130
    kc Says:

    At least Fredi hired somebody useful.

  131. 131
    kc Says:

    Nicely done Craig.

  132. 132
    kc Says:

    Come on. Let’s score a run and go home.

    Dan, they are both terrible. I think we can both agree on that.

  133. 133
    Putter Says:

    McOut still stuck at one career walk off…shocker

    Edit: Was Fredi arguing or did he get lost on the way to the bathroom?

  134. 134
    P Says:

    Can’t blame him after that AB – what a quirky strike zone.

  135. 135
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Way to come in late Fredi, you fat ignorant slob.

  136. 136
    Stu Says:

    So, Nate is both terrible and stupid, apparently.

    This umpire has been brutal all night, though.

  137. 137
    braves14 Says:

    Looks like we may be seeing Heyward in CF if this goes to extras.

  138. 138
    Morrie Says:

    Can’t spell out without McLouth

  139. 139
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Earth to Fredi…

  140. 140
    Smitty Says:

    Fredi is going to get suspended.

  141. 141
    PeteOrr Says:

    Is it possible to accrue WPA between plays? Our chances of winning had to just skyrocket when Nate and Fredi got thrown out. Props to the ump!

  142. 142
    P Says:

    Well, Bobby is clearly better at the ‘realizing you’ve been ejected’ metric.

  143. 143
    Dan Says:

    Yeah, McLouth and Gonzalez just got thrown out. The odds of winning just shot up.

  144. 144
    kc Says:

    @143 Funny but true!!!

  145. 145
    braves14 Says:

    I think Fredi knew he’d been thrown out, he was just pissed and was refusing to leave for a minute.

  146. 146
    braves14 Says:

    Oh wait, I didn’t realize Schafer was already in CF. So I guess AAG will go to SS, Lugo to 3b, and Prado to LF.

  147. 147
    RobBroad4th Says:

    @140, Can he get suspended for not leaving after being ejected?

  148. 148
    Smitty Says:

    Rob,

    I would think so

  149. 149
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Who’s playing center?? Chip didn’t think that was an important thing to mention this inning.

    @146, Didn’t notice that either.

  150. 150
    Rusty S. Says:

    Linebrink’s got to be batting in McLouth’s spot right?

  151. 151
    braves14 Says:

    150 — No, but that’s not a bad thing since AAG is in that spot and Ross is the only PH left.

  152. 152
    Stu Says:

    Good grief.

  153. 153
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Just when you think this can’t get any worse …

  154. 154
    braves14 Says:

    Just what we need. Both Chipper and BMac on the shelf.

  155. 155
    Smitty Says:

    Schafer has been in center for a few innings.

    McCann out. This is bad.

  156. 156
    Morrie Says:

    Just need a proctor appearance now

  157. 157
    Frank Says:

    @90–ask and you shall receive

  158. 158
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Thanks again, Nate. I’m looking forward to releasing you.

  159. 159
    Rusty S. Says:

    @151 – Opinions vary… Please tell me Sherrill’s going into McCann’s spot.

  160. 160
    Bob Horner Says:

    Only good thing about this is maybe Frank Wren gets off his ass now and makes a trade!

  161. 161
    Frank Says:

    Should have run Kimbrel out for a second inning

  162. 162
    Smitty Says:

    @161

    So he can go see Dr Andrews sooner?

  163. 163
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    @160 Until Liberty says, “No payroll increase.” Sorry, there’s stockholders to be placated.

  164. 164
    braves14 Says:

    159 — Yes, it would be moronic not to do that, now. But I didn’t see Tosca go to the umpire.

  165. 165
    Tom O. Says:

    @160, i’m with you

  166. 166
    Douglass Says:

    Come on Resop. Cough one up for old time’s sake. Do it for Mac!

  167. 167
    Dan Says:

    Beat the Poser.

  168. 168
    braves14 Says:

    Joe said that the pitcher’s spot is first, Ross is in McCann’s spot, and AAG is in the 6 hole.

  169. 169
    Putter Says:

    Pirates felt bad and brought in Resop to make things fair

  170. 170
    kc Says:

    What happened to McCann?

  171. 171
    reaganman Says:

    @170 – seemed to hurt his back when trying to throw out a runner.

  172. 172
    Rusty S. Says:

    Well then, why didn’t they put Ross in the 1 spot and the pitcher in the 3?

  173. 173
    reaganman Says:

    If I recall correctly they didn’t make the pitching change yet when they took McCann out.

  174. 174
    Catz Says:

    saw that one coming

  175. 175
    RobBroad4th Says:

    We’ve been Sea Bassed.

  176. 176
    braves14 Says:

    170 — Looked like an oblique strain when he tried to throw out a runner stealing.

  177. 177
    Dan Says:

    Good to have Gonzalez back in the game.

  178. 178
    Rusty S. Says:

    Sorry about that then.

  179. 179
    Putter Says:

    Just remember though…we have lots of pitching in the minors. I guess that makes Wren and Liberty sleep well at night, doesn’t do so much for me

  180. 180
    Mundale Says:

    Gonzalez is such garbage

  181. 181
    kc Says:

    Gotta love AAG.

  182. 182
    braves14 Says:

    At least the Braves brought in the Lisp before the Proctologist.

    This is going to be a funny looking box score in the morning.

  183. 183
    kc Says:

    @182 Since we are playing at home, the rush of leaving isn’t as great, ha.

  184. 184
    Catz Says:

    Lisp with the surprisingly strong inning

  185. 185
    Jp Says:

    The question isn’t if the braves will loose this game, but what will be the straw that mercifully breaks this camel’s back?

  186. 186
    kc Says:

    Hi Jason, it’s time to end the game.

  187. 187
    Bethany Says:

    @186 If you think Jason is going to do anything positive at the plate, you are crazy. Any hit he gets at this point is a gift.

  188. 188
    Putter Says:

    Is Heyward waiting for the ball on a tee? He takes so many nut high pitches it is ridiculous

  189. 189
    Catz Says:

    Lugo being useful? on MY team?

  190. 190
    Dan Says:

    Simpson would really have Schafer bunt here with one out if a pitcher wasn’t batting next?

  191. 191
    stupup74 Says:

    I have seen too many of these games over the last couple of years.

    This is getting absolutely ridiculous. We are dropping like flies. Wren is going to have to trade for warm bodies just to finish the year at this rate.

  192. 192
    Bethany Says:

    Ouch, poor Jordan.

  193. 193
    Dan Says:

    At this rate, Hudson will be playing the outfield before long.

  194. 194
    Catz Says:

    Was that the same place as the injury? i hope not

  195. 195
    braves14 Says:

    194 — Wrist/forearm.

  196. 196
    reaganman Says:

    @194 – looked like the left wrist.

  197. 197
    Putter Says:

    Prado continues to produce in the clutch

  198. 198
    Bethany Says:

    We suck so bad.

  199. 199
    Catz Says:

    Well winning this one after that would be pretty miraculous

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    kc Says:

    I guess we need to start hating the Pirates for keep hurting our players.

  201. 201
    reaganman Says:

    Bethany pointed this out yesterday… Prado kinda sucks this year. A corner outfielder that can hit would be really useful.

  202. 202
    jjschiller Says:

    So how many minor leaguers do you need if you want to trade for 8 major leaguers?

  203. 203
    Dan Says:

    Is it anyone else, or has Prado been killing the Braves lately? With big at-bats with no hits and crushing errors at third base.

  204. 204
    kc Says:

    @203 That applies to almost the whole team right now.

  205. 205
    Mike N. Says:

    Uggla is gonna end it this inning. Count it.

  206. 206
    kc Says:

    Either we end the game now or we wait for another hour.

  207. 207
    stupup74 Says:

    It is not that Prado has sucked this year. He had a career year last year. Prado is an solid Mid IF/utility man miscast as an everyday corner player because Liberty Media sucks as owners.

    He is coming back down to earth from last year. Solid player, but the braves ask so much of him.

  208. 208
    Bethany Says:

    Yeah Freddie!!!!

  209. 209
    JoeyT Says:

    I kind of like it when I come home, expecting to watch the archived game on mlb.tv, and it’s still going on in the 12th inning. Yeah live action.

  210. 210
    random guy Says:

    Prado’s BABIP is also 45 points below his career average…his peripherals are all near his career norms.

  211. 211
    seGT Says:

    I’m not against calling out Prado for struggling, but to do so because he’s a “corner outfielder” is extremely disingenuous.

  212. 212
    kc Says:

    Dan, end it please. Otherwise a triple play is coming.

  213. 213
    Dan Says:

    Gonzalez: GIDP time.

  214. 214
    csg Says:

    AAG is SOOOOOO awful

  215. 215
    reaganman Says:

    I’m not blaming Prado for not being a corner outfielder, just pointing out that we need one.

  216. 216
    Bethany Says:

    Ok Lugo, be a hero.

  217. 217
    csg Says:

    How about a BB Lugo?

  218. 218
    Dan Says:

    I’m not against calling out Prado for struggling, but to do so because he’s a “corner outfielder” is extremely disingenuous.

    Hey, the commercial says he can do “everything.”

  219. 219
    Catz Says:

    I figure our best bet is a walkoff walk

  220. 220
    Bethany Says:

    Nooooooo….

  221. 221
    stupup74 Says:

    Aggressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  222. 222
    jjschiller Says:

    I’ve got a bad feeling Martinez gives up a two-spot in this inning.

  223. 223
    Bethany Says:

    Way to rub it in, Alex.

  224. 224
    Dan Says:

    So many blown chances. First and second and no one out and it surprised no one they couldn’t score there.

  225. 225
    Jeff K Says:

    Ugh

  226. 226
    JoeyT Says:

    If he can’t even play defense well, there has to be a better option somewhere.

  227. 227
    csg Says:

    Good now AAG cant field a grounder

  228. 228
    Putter Says:

    So tell me again what AAG’s value is?

  229. 229
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    I don’t want to rush the kid, but could Pastornicky do worse?

  230. 230
    Jeff K Says:

    He’s not Yoko.

  231. 231
    Dan Says:

    So tell me again what AAG’s value is?

    Apparently just the fact he’s not Escobar and doesn’t jump up and down in the on-deck circle.

  232. 232
    seGT Says:

    I’ve been reluctant to criticize Alex Gonzalez because I hated Yunel Escobar’s dumb tips-frosted ass. But I’m pissed enough now to publicly berate AAG with the disclaimer that I still wouldn’t want Yunel back. Because I still hate him. And he’s a dumbass.

  233. 233
    kc Says:

    @231 And he doesn’t get hurt once a month.

  234. 234
    Jeff K Says:

    I’m in deep hate mode, but it’s first at the coaches. Fire them all.

  235. 235
    Bethany Says:

    Thank goodness. Ok guys, you get another shot.

  236. 236
    JoeyT Says:

    You know what happens when we don’t bring Proctor in? They don’t score runs. This pen is tight.

  237. 237
    Jeff K Says:

    Chip, except that muscle that moves his arm to throw the ball.

  238. 238
    PeteOrr Says:

    Did Chip just say “hot smash to second?” That sounds disgusting.

  239. 239
    CourtneyC Says:

    We are just delaying the proctor eff up that we all know is coming

  240. 240
    stupup74 Says:

    If we don’t score this inning, bend over, the proctologist is probably coming in.

  241. 241
    Jeff K Says:

    Joey, it’s the Bucs.

  242. 242
    Dan Says:

    Did Chip just say “hot smash to second?” That sounds disgusting.

    Time to rough ‘em up in the bottom half.

  243. 243
    seGT Says:

    So we’ve got a one-handed Schafer, and the pitcher’s spot with no PH’s available, this inning. Awesome.

  244. 244
    Dan Says:

    McCann to DL.

  245. 245
    JoeyT Says:

    Best catcher in baseball on the DL? Crud. It’s like we’re the Twins.

  246. 246
    csg Says:

    Bmac, strained oblique….15 day DL tomorrow

  247. 247
    Bethany Says:

    Ok, so McCann is on the DL. Wren, the baseball gods are FORCING you to get a bat.

  248. 248
    Dan Says:

    Maybe Wren will finally be compelled to do something.

  249. 249
    braves14 Says:

    McLouth and Beachy missed about a month with their oblique problems.

  250. 250
    JoeyT Says:

    Yes! Martinez is batting!

  251. 251
    Jeff K Says:

    Hot shot in the hole!

  252. 252
    JoeyT Says:

    See, Fredi. That’s fate telling you to never play Scott Proctor.

  253. 253
    Stu Says:

    Christhian Martinez for shortstop.

  254. 254
    kc Says:

    David Ross finally has a chance to play everyday again!!!

  255. 255
    Bethany Says:

    Prado fail again.

  256. 256
    John R. Says:

    Single to the right by the Lisp. Of course he bunted with 1 out last time. I know, I know, it’s a decent call. I just hate the bunt.

  257. 257
    Putter Says:

    Prado again with the big gack…geez, come up big one time already

  258. 258
    Nick Manning Says:

    Morphine and Percocet? You should post a Spiritualized song.

    Now the best back-up catcher in baseball

  259. 259
    John R. Says:

    BTW, I gotta say: it’s good thing Fredi’s back to needing long relievers.

  260. 260
    ryan c Says:

    Wilkin Castillo?

  261. 261
    Bethany Says:

    COME ON FREDDIE!!!!

  262. 262
    Bethany Says:

    Not a strike.

  263. 263
    Jeff K Says:

    Sheesh!

  264. 264
    Jeff K Says:

    Bullshit

  265. 265
    braves14 Says:

    Boscan’s on the 40 man, even though he’s sucked it will probably be him. Mathew Kennelly has a solid OBP but isn’t on the 40 man.

  266. 266
    seGT Says:

    I wish I was drunk.

  267. 267
    Dan Says:

    When the Braves lose, they can’t say they didn’t have a ton of chances.

  268. 268
    kc Says:

    16 LOB

  269. 269
    stupup74 Says:

    When Boscan comes up, we go from the best backup catcher in baseball to the worst.

  270. 270
    Grst Says:

    This umpire sucks.

  271. 271
    RobBroad4th Says:

    How much are you selling your morphine for Mac? Beer ain’t cutting it for this game.

  272. 272
    Jeff K Says:

    I’m getting ready to jinx myself but …

    Kinda like the dichotomy of Bethany on the treadmill, the Braves have lost the last nine games I’ve seen. Going to bed and hoping for the best.

  273. 273
    Dan Says:

    Whatever happened to Sammons?

    Edit: seems to be with the Florida Marlins organization now.

  274. 274
    Bethany Says:

    So, we don’t get that call?

  275. 275
    csg Says:

    I just hope someone scores this inning. LISP deserves a win, but this offense just cant do anything once someone gets in scoring position.

  276. 276
    Jeff K Says:

    Good God!

  277. 277
    csg Says:

    Umps are BIGGER than the game

  278. 278
    Morrie Says:

    Umpires are jokes

    Replace them with computers, and throw one into to replace fredi while youre at it.

  279. 279
    JoeyT Says:

    Great, an ump picking a fight. Just what we need.

  280. 280
    csg Says:

    Can we just bring in Proctor to get this thing over with? I want to see LISP blow up on this ump…

  281. 281
    kc Says:

    We should call Bobby instead.

  282. 282
    stupup74 Says:

    Somebody, somewhere, someday soon is going to lose it on an umpire one day and it is going to get ugly. Some guy is going to lose it on an umpire and hurt one of them one day.

    When it happens, the media and fans are going to go nuts and decry the sanctity of the game, etc., but damn if the Jerry Meals, Bob Davidson’s and that guy who looks like Super Mario, are just frankly asking for it with their actions.

  283. 283
    braves14 Says:

    Bill Hohn.

  284. 284
    JoeyT Says:

    Martinez is such a trooper. He sure puts together some gems in long relief sometimes.

  285. 285
    Tom O. Says:

    @284, agreed

  286. 286
    Dan Says:

    That little girl or whatever screaming in the stands is getting really obnoxious.

  287. 287
    Frank Says:

    Yep a nice outing by Martinez

  288. 288
    Tom O. Says:

    the pitch tracker on mlb.com is wrecking this Jerry Meals clown. it’s a joke

  289. 289
    reaganman Says:

    Ok, Uggla walk off.

  290. 290
    JoeyT Says:

    So, no position players, but Hudson was a college outfielder and Beachy was a college infielder, in case there’s an injury.

  291. 291
    PeteOrr Says:

    The Lisp is kind of a pretty good pitcher. It’s pure insanity that he’s been lower on the bullpen depth chart than Proctor.

  292. 292
    ububba Says:

    Alright, fellas, 14 is enough.

    End this, please.

  293. 293
    JoeyT Says:

    I don’t think it’s as much that he’s lower as that they like to keep him rested for situations like this.

  294. 294
    jjschiller Says:

    Cristhian has really pitched tonight. Great job.

    It’s a shame that 4 (will it be 5?) innings of shut-out relief is going to get him sent to Gwinnett tomorrow, since he will be unavailable for 3 days after this.

  295. 295
    Morrie Says:

    @290

    Freeman was a pitcher i believe, maybe we see him on the mound with Huddy at first before proctor sees the light of day.

  296. 296
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Uggla’s out. So much for this inning.

  297. 297
    John R. Says:

    According to ESPN Gamecast, the first strike looking to AGon was in the dirt. Is that how it looks in the real world?

  298. 298
    Frank Says:

    Maybe tomorrow is dfa day for Proctor

  299. 299
    braves14 Says:

    AAG can’t even hit the ball in the air.

  300. 300
    Frank Says:

    Groans

  301. 301
    Chip (not Caray) Says:

    @297: Yes.

  302. 302
    Mike N. Says:

    This is so lame.

  303. 303
    stupup74 Says:

    297 – it was in the dirt, almost

    Heyward and Agon are completely lost up there.

  304. 304
    RobBroad4th Says:

    The umpire is only the sixth worst thing about this game.

  305. 305
    jjschiller Says:

    I keep seeing the 3 names due up each bottom half, and thinking ‘Well, it won’t be this inning.. but we gotta be coming up on our good hitter’s soon.’

  306. 306
    jjschiller Says:

    Heyward is 2 for 5 with 2 walks.. and I still don’t like him.

  307. 307
    Adam M Says:

    Been out all night, though I’ve been monitoring the game on my phone. The home plate umpire has been awful, eh? Shocking.

  308. 308
    Morrie Says:

    Prado is 0 for 7. Our pitchers have more hits in the same at number of at bats.

  309. 309
    Adam M Says:

    Am I reading Prado’s line correctly?

  310. 310
    braves14 Says:

    That’s the 20th strikeout.

  311. 311
    jjschiller Says:

    Anybody into 60’s and 70’s reggae? Doesn’t Andrew McCutchen look alot like Bunny Wailer?

  312. 312
    JoeyT Says:

    Wow. That has to be Martinez’ last inning. Stellar work.

  313. 313
    DowneasterJC Says:

    I’m glad that kid is having a good time at the game, but someone needs to move him away from the mic.

  314. 314
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Martinez should win a medal for this outing. He’s been spectacular.

  315. 315
    Chip (not Caray) Says:

    Man, Lisp so deserves to get the win tonight.

  316. 316
    PeteOrr Says:

    The Lisp has to be a better pitcher than Lowe, doesn’t he? I’d much rather watch him than sweaty ass Lowe anyway.

  317. 317
    urlhix Says:

    The Lisp has been pretty awesome to watch tonight. But yeah, can we get a win now?

  318. 318
    Nick Says:

    Can we PLEASE get a run and win this game for Cristhian???

  319. 319
    Dan Says:

    Proctor still lurks, waiting for the chance to lose this game.

  320. 320
    kc Says:

    Martinez has been starting for Gwinnett. I think he can go one or two more.

    I have lost interest in this game, does that make me a bad person?

  321. 321
    drewdat Says:

    Happy Meals is the McDonald’s of umpires. In a profession noted for a high instance of assheads, it really takes a lot to step to the forefront as the biggest asshead of all.

    That’s a bit too brief. Self-censoring the rest.

  322. 322
    Dan Says:

    Cristhian Martinez is going to go Rick Camp on a pitch this inning.

  323. 323
    PeteOrr Says:

    @320 – Not a bad person, just a bad fan. There will be no place for you at the championship parade.

  324. 324
    drewdat Says:

    Martinez is by far the biggest offensive threat out of these three.

  325. 325
    Bethany Says:

    “with guts like a cat burglar”

    Chip…

  326. 326
    JoeyT Says:

    He’s still batting? I would have thought they’d PH Hudson.

  327. 327
    PeteOrr Says:

    Guts like a cat burglar Chip?! WTF does that even mean?! Is that a saying?

  328. 328
    Adam M Says:

    I’d pitch out here if I was Pit.

  329. 329
    seGT Says:

    Don just dropped a “Shades of Mickey Mantle right there” after Schafer’s bunt.

  330. 330
    ryan c Says:

    thanks, alvarez!

  331. 331
    Chip (not Caray) Says:

    Man, I was really hoping they wouldn’t bunt there. I don’t know why I bothered.

  332. 332
    drewdat Says:

    Schafer’s bunt was a classic no-lose. What, is he going to get an actual hit?

    Prado’s due, right?

  333. 333
    Dan Says:

    “with guts like a cat burglar”

    Chip…

    This is the announcer who once said, in reference to hungry bees: “maybe they’re going to Ar-bees (Arby’s).”

  334. 334
    ryan c Says:

    no matter how this game ends, cristhian martinez is the man tonight!

  335. 335
    John R. Says:

    You gotta admit: It’s pretty damned cool to have a relief pitcher with two sacrifice hits in the same game.

    Okay, no. You don’t.

  336. 336
    drewdat Says:

    Prado, that was horrible. Quit sucking and make good contact.

  337. 337
    Morrie Says:

    0 for 8

  338. 338
    drewdat Says:

    Looked a tad low, asshead.

  339. 339
    Dan Says:

    Prado: 0-8

  340. 340
    Adam M Says:

    Wow, Prado. Just wow.

  341. 341
    Putter Says:

    This is 2008 Prado…absolute hack

  342. 342
    Bethany Says:

    Prado, you suck. Everyone but Cristhian sucks.

  343. 343
    urlhix Says:

    “Guts like a cat burglar” just HAS to replace “Ban the Dan”, right?

  344. 344
    RobBroad4th Says:

    It’s too bad we have to put so much pressure on the guy coming off the DL with a staph infection.

  345. 345
    DowneasterJC Says:

    I’d rather have a starter pitch next and call up Minor or Delgado for a turn than let Proctor in for one pitch.

  346. 346
    jjschiller Says:

    So how tired does Cristhian have to be before he’s worse than a fresh Scott Proctor? 140 pitches? 160?

  347. 347
    Dan Says:

    Was going to say “wish the Braves could have Johnson back from the Diamondbacks,” so Prado could assume the Infante role. But a quick check reveals:

    .218/.301/.437

    Though the 17 home runs are right at the top for second basemen.

  348. 348
    Bethany Says:

    Wow, great play, Freddie.

  349. 349
    braves14 Says:

    CB Bucknor is on this crew too? Sheesh.

  350. 350
    rb Says:

    I guess freeman didn’t fall asleep yet.

  351. 351
    drewdat Says:

    @347

    That’s gotta be third best on our team though, right?

  352. 352
    braves14 Says:

    347 — Uggla has 18.

  353. 353
    Frank Says:

    @346–not until his arm falls off

  354. 354
    DowneasterJC Says:

    This ump seriously needs to go **** himself.

  355. 355
    drewdat Says:

    I meant his OPS. I was a little high.

    Unlike that pitch, which was right down Broadway. Are McKenry and Meals an item or something? How will McKenry ever know if he’s good enough to stick in the majors without this guy spoonfeeding him calls?

  356. 356
    Putter Says:

    Good look for Proctor…sitting in the bullpen by himself. The only place I would rather see him is on a bus leaving town tomorrow

  357. 357
    drewdat Says:

    Seriously, dude, if you’re too tired to call balls and strikes, just suspend the game or find an alternate or something.

  358. 358
    Dan Says:

    One wonders if Proctor feels any hint of shame while watching Martinez pitch till he drops, because the team has no faith in him even though he’s sucking up a roster spot.

  359. 359
    ububba Says:

    Win one for The Lisper?

  360. 360
    Chip (not Caray) Says:

    You think AGon watched McCutchen bust his ass up the line and thought, “Huh, I wonder if I should do that too?”

  361. 361
    braves14 Says:

    Meals obviously has money on the Pirates. Good thing the Lisp is untouchable tonight.

  362. 362
    John R. Says:

    The Lisp has now pitched 6, the same amount of innings as our starter, but with 5 fewer hits, 2 fewer walks, and 3 fewer runs, while striking out the same amount of batters.

    I really think he ought to have been used more during the first half of the season. But no, he’s the one that gets sent to the minors.

  363. 363
    Bethany Says:

    I’m still trying to get over the cat burglar line.

  364. 364
    braves14 Says:

    Hey, the legit hitters are up this inning.

  365. 365
    jjschiller Says:

    They just showed a fan on the broadcast, right behind the dugout with his two kids… I swear I thought it was Tyler Yates.

  366. 366
    Adam M Says:

    They need to score. You know who is coming in.

  367. 367
    JoeyT Says:

    Proctor warming up.

    NOW OR NEVER

  368. 368
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Scott “Ballgame” Proctor coming up after this.

    =(

  369. 369
    Frank Says:

    Better win it here

  370. 370
    rb Says:

    Oh lord, better win it now, because we’re going to wave the white flag in the 17th.

  371. 371
    Chip (not Caray) Says:

    Man, I’m legitimately surprised that Meals didn’t call that pitch that almost hit Ross a strike.

  372. 372
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    #367–Absolutely….

  373. 373
    JoeyT Says:

    I’m impressed that he let four balls go by, one of which was close, with the crowd chanting his name like that.

  374. 374
    braves14 Says:

    First time Meals has called a borderline call for the Braves tonight.

  375. 375
    drewdat Says:

    Luckless Uggla.

  376. 376
    braves14 Says:

    AAG up. Inning over.

  377. 377
    drewdat Says:

    Well, this is great, because Alex Gonzalez gets another critical at bat.

  378. 378
    Grst Says:

    Ugh, Uggla sure gets robbed a lot at third.

  379. 379
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    AAG up and Proctor warming up. Good night, everybody.

  380. 380
    Putter Says:

    2-0 on Agony..somebody take his bat away before he can swing

    Edit..damn, too late

  381. 381
    drewdat Says:

    Nice one AAG.

  382. 382
    Dan Says:

    2-0 on Agony..somebody take his bat away before he can swing

    Or throw it at the people in the stands again.

  383. 383
    Morrie Says:

    Can alex lose his bat and hit that kid in the head. I know it sounds horrible, but christ, Its too late for that.

    Great freeman looks hurt

  384. 384
    Bethany Says:

    I need to find a wall to ram my head through.

  385. 385
    Adam M Says:

    Well, that was that.

  386. 386
    RobBroad4th Says:

    Is Freeman hurt too? This game sucks out loud.

  387. 387
    JoeyT Says:

    It’s sad how every person on the planet who is paying attention to this game knew it would be a soft grounder to short or an infield popup.

  388. 388
    csg Says:

    LISP 6IP 2H 0BB 6K

  389. 389
    Adam M Says:

    Look at the bright side: if Proctor blows this, and he will, there will be no option but to get rid of him. I mean, right?

  390. 390
    braves14 Says:

    A normal kid, even an 8 year old, would be worn out from yelling for 17 consecutive innings.

  391. 391
    ububba Says:

    The Lisp: 88 pitches, 62 strikes.

  392. 392
    braves14 Says:

    389 — You would think.

  393. 393
    Anon21 Says:

    This is the one situation where it is acceptable to use Scott Proctor: to prevent the heat death of the universe caused by an infinite succession of boring extra innings.

  394. 394
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    Time for Proctor to work his magic….

  395. 395
    csg Says:

    I think Freeman is cramping.

    13 scoreless innings from these two teams

  396. 396
    drewdat Says:

    80%, that’s a B, right? Oh, for giving up runs…

  397. 397
    Dan Says:

    13 scoreless innings from these two teams

    About to end.

  398. 398
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Not many games are decided by which team has the better 25th man. But as the cliche’ goes, the chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

  399. 399
    Adam M Says:

    I loathe Frank Wren for allowing this man to pitch another high leverage inning.

  400. 400
    Bethany Says:

    Just… so much hate.

  401. 401
    drewdat Says:

    Leadoff walk? Not if, but how many.

    Mark me down for a 5 spot.

  402. 402
    stupup74 Says:

    This could get ugly for the home team.

  403. 403
    RobBroad4th Says:

    The Lisp is my new favorite Brave. That was an incredible and gutsy outing. Mad props.

  404. 404
    Scump Says:

    Pirates advance scouts must really suck if they think it is ever a good idea to bunt against Proctor.

  405. 405
    Catz Says:

    Proctologist coming in… time to hit the bottle

  406. 406
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    I loathe Liberty Media by limiting Frank Wren’s budget to slip-shod “solutions” like Scott Proctor.

  407. 407
    Frank Says:

    Please give us a bunt out. That way Proctor will only have to get two outs.

  408. 408
    Dan Says:

    Wren is the one that decided to give Proctor a major league contract and continues to let him stay on the team.

  409. 409
    Adam M Says:

    Oh look, the IBB to face one of the best hitters in baseball.

  410. 410
    RobBroad4th Says:

    @405, My dad and I are polishing off our third bottle. Catch up.

  411. 411
    drewdat Says:

    Walker and McCutchen. Candy.

    Yep, better walk Walker just to make sure it’s totally out of reach for our offense.

  412. 412
    reaganman Says:

    Walking Walker to get to McCutchen.

  413. 413
    braves14 Says:

    Um, McCutchen isn’t going to hit into a DP.

  414. 414
    stupup74 Says:

    Proctor vs. McCutchen.

    That matchup does not favor the home team.

  415. 415
    csg Says:

    Walker looks like he’s on something at the plate right now.

    Odds on McCutchen hitting a 3R bomb??

  416. 416
    Brian J. Says:

    Walking a guy to get to put runners on first and second for an All-Star? We just saw this a few days ago in Colorado, and I remember not liking the ending. Apparently Fredlot doesn’t.

  417. 417
    Grst Says:

    McCutchen is too fast for this IBB to make any sense at all.

  418. 418
    drewdat Says:

    Proctor doesn’t throw better strikes than that one, ump. We can be here all night, it’s up to you.

  419. 419
    Adam M Says:

    Proctor has no command at all.

  420. 420
    drewdat Says:

    More of a line drive pitcher than flyball, really.

  421. 421
    stupup74 Says:

    Freeman does a good job of just taking the out stupid.

  422. 422
    Dan Says:

    Proctor to get the win?

  423. 423
    Adam M Says:

    Well, that was unexpected.

  424. 424
    ububba Says:

    A win for the Proctor?

  425. 425
    reaganman Says:

    It’s a miracle!

  426. 426
    JoeyT Says:

    Thank goodness we’re facing the Pirates.

  427. 427
    drewdat Says:

    What the hell.

  428. 428
    Bethany Says:

    Oh my god, we made it out alive.

  429. 429
    Morrie Says:

    Do you believe in Miracles?!?!

  430. 430
    Putter Says:

    wow, dodged the first Proctor bullet

  431. 431
    braves14 Says:

    Hey, Proctologist miraculously pitched a scoreless inning!

  432. 432
    csg Says:

    LOL, at least he only needed 2 outs. Thanks Pirates.

  433. 433
    Brian J. Says:

    Our hitters better make the most of this; the way Proctor pitched, we won’t get a second chance to win.

  434. 434
    Anon21 Says:

    I am laughing the hysterical laugh of despair. If Scott Proctor couldn’t end this misbegotten abomination of a baseball contest, what, tell me WHAT, IN THE NAME OF GOD, can end it now?

  435. 435
    Grst Says:

    Wow, who knew.

    Okay guys, don’t tempt fate with another inning of Proctor. Time to end this.

  436. 436
    Chip (not Caray) Says:

    Wow. I’m pretty sure Sasquatch just walked past my window, and I saw the Loch Ness Monster swimming in my bathtub. Oh, and Scott Proctor threw a scoreless inning.

  437. 437
    Adam M Says:

    Before we start looking for the win, let’s remember that after Heyward it goes Lugo, Schafer, Proctor.

    It’s up to Heyward.

  438. 438
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    Chip is really obsessed with the time–like he has never been up late….

  439. 439
    Bethany Says:

    Jason Heyward: Winner.

  440. 440
    Frank Says:

    On to the 18th

  441. 441
    Putter Says:

    So after Heywards predictably weak out to start the inning, I guess we are on to the 18th

  442. 442
    braves14 Says:

    Lugo has had a good night.

  443. 443
    drewdat Says:

    Lugo picks the worst times for his hits. Except that one time. But tonight, the worst times.

  444. 444
    Brian J. Says:

    Dodgers just beat the Rockies in LA- the last game other than ours to finish.

  445. 445
    csg Says:

    3 hits for Lugo? That may be more than AAG has all month.

  446. 446
    Chip (not Caray) Says:

    Man, how sad is it that Julio Lugo’s now our best hitter?

  447. 447
    Putter Says:

    Wow, a Brave got a hit

  448. 448
    Adam M Says:

    Why is Schafer bunting? Isn’t Proctor on deck?

  449. 449
    Brian J. Says:

    446- He isn’t, as long as Freeman’s around.

  450. 450
    Morrie Says:

    Scott Proctor is trending on twitter

  451. 451
    Bethany Says:

    I thought Schafer had actually gotten a hit for a split second.

  452. 452
    braves14 Says:

    Ok, let’s see if Proctor can pull a Rick Camp.

  453. 453
    Adam M Says:

    How many of the Braves hitters look to bunt first in order to get a hit?

  454. 454
    DowneasterJC Says:

    I would be okay with forfeiting if Scott bunts a ball into his face and the Braves can’t continue.

  455. 455
    Dan Says:

    Scott Proctor is trending on twitter

    The Proctor: losing pitcher (LP) watch is on.

  456. 456
    drewdat Says:

    Just don’t hurt yourself swinging, Scott. Or, wait…

  457. 457
    Jeff K Says:

    Double header!

  458. 458
    Brian J. Says:

    Proctor’s first ever ball hit in fair territory. He should ask for the ball.

  459. 459
    rb Says:

    Proctor actually put together a better AB than AAG.

  460. 460
    Dan Says:

    Proctor was only going to get a hit there if he was facing Proctor.

  461. 461
    Anon21 Says:

    So, seriously…at what point do they just call for a suspension? And if they were to do that, would the teams really be limited to the players currently on the field? We would see Scott Proctor and Notdrew McCutchen go back out there?

  462. 462
    Frank Says:

    So the strategy is to walk the leaflet batter so the Bucs will then give us an out

  463. 463
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    #452–I think that we need to be down by 4 first–which is certainly possible with Proctor pitching….

  464. 464
    Putter Says:

    Now the Proctologist is doing his thing

  465. 465
    Brian J. Says:

    And it begins.

  466. 466
    Adam M Says:

    well, lightning doesn’t strike twice. The Pirates are gonna get across the plate this inning, I fear.

  467. 467
    Frank Says:

    Darn autocorrect–leadoff

  468. 468
    Jeff K Says:

    Please lose. And quickly.

  469. 469
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    @461 A suspension can kick in at 2 a.m. local time, I believe. And you are limited to who’s on the roster, so, yes, McCutchen and Proctor would remain as the pitchers.

  470. 470
    Putter Says:

    Why bunt when Proctor can;t throw a strike?

  471. 471
    Dan Says:

    So sick of watching the Braves lose with Proctor on the mound.

  472. 472
    Brian J. Says:

    Proctor must have a new set of Pictures.

  473. 473
    Anon21 Says:

    What is this…I don’t even

  474. 474
    Bethany Says:

    That kid is still going.

  475. 475
    drewdat Says:

    Guys, what the hell? IBB, really?

  476. 476
    Adam M Says:

    Okay, that was… weird. Why did they throw a strike first? Is someone actually asleep in the dugout?

  477. 477
    braves14 Says:

    IBB with an 0-1 count?

  478. 478
    ursusfidelis Says:

    proctor throws a first pitch strike… and then they intentionally walk the batter… i don’t know why i even bother.

  479. 479
    drewdat Says:

    Is there any way the pitcher doesn’t nail one off Proctor?

  480. 480
    Jeff K Says:

    An odd intentional walk after the first pitch strike.

  481. 481
    Anon21 Says:

    But seriously, has anyone ever seen that before? They get strike 1, no base is stolen, nothing changes, and suddenly the pitching team just decides to issue an intentional walk? What was possibly going through everyone’s heads just there?

  482. 482
    Dan Says:

    Would someone hit a foul ball towards that kid?

  483. 483
    Jeff K Says:

    Let’s go Pirates!

  484. 484
    braves14 Says:

    Meals still sucks at umpiring.

  485. 485
    JoeyT Says:

    That guy’s pretty fast.

  486. 486
    drewdat Says:

    McKenry is just that fearsome.

  487. 487
    Adam M Says:

    Another IBB?

    Guess not.

  488. 488
    Brian J. Says:

    And now we’re doomed, because Paul and Pearce are real hitters, while Proctor’s not a real pitcher.

  489. 489
    drewdat Says:

    The choice was to face McKenry or Paul, by the way. Man on first or men on second and third.

  490. 490
    stupup74 Says:

    481 – No

    that looked like something you would do on MLB the show or something.

    If that kid screaming for the Pirates doesn’t get a shit ton of swag from the pirates, then there is no justice in this world.

    Don’t get me wrong, I hate that kid, but fair is fair.

  491. 491
    andrew b Says:

    this game has been stunning. i don’t know what else to say.

  492. 492
    braves14 Says:

    Wow.

  493. 493
    Bethany Says:

    Thank god for Freddie.

  494. 494
    Jeff K Says:

    You

  495. 495
    ububba Says:

    Hey, no problem…

  496. 496
    Putter Says:

    Wow, Freeman.

  497. 497
    drewdat Says:

    LOLOLOLOLOL

    Proctor just trolled the Pirates twice. Hard.

  498. 498
    Jeff K Says:

    Are

  499. 499
    JoeyT Says:

    Proctor must have been pyro as a kid. He’s pretty good at playing with fire.

  500. 500
    csg Says:

    That a way to be in the right place Freddie.

  501. 501
    Brian J. Says:

    Is it snowing where any of you are living? Or raining frogs? What we have seen is divine intervention.

  502. 502
    Jeff K Says:

    Kidding

  503. 503
    Adam M Says:

    Every good thing that happens is ruined by Chip. He needs a sub.

    Alright fellas, I need to sleep. Let’s get a run.

  504. 504
    Chip (not Caray) Says:

    *giggle* Just like Proctor drew it up!

  505. 505
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    A no-hitter for Jurrjens/Hudson/Hanson = two scoreless innings for Proctor. Same level of accomplishment relative to skill level.

  506. 506
    spike Says:

    I gave up at the bar, so I assume Freddie got a lineout DP of some kind?

  507. 507
    Dan Says:

    Don’t show Satan’s spawn again.

  508. 508
    drewdat Says:

    Would harpy be a little harsh?

  509. 509
    andrew b Says:

    lol proctor survives another inning.

  510. 510
    rb Says:

    The best part about this game going so long is that those of us watching on mlb.tv don’t keep getting annoying popups when highlights happen in other games. They’re all done.

  511. 511
    csg Says:

    spike, no just a rocket hit at him with 2 outs.

  512. 512
    andrew b Says:

    as skip used to say “never in doubt.”

  513. 513
    Jeff K Says:

    0-9

  514. 514
    Putter Says:

    Prado deserves every bit of that 0-9

  515. 515
    Dan Says:

    Prado: 0-9

  516. 516
    Adam M Says:

    So… what happens now? Is Proctor going to pitch a 3rd inning? Just tempt fate? Is there no way to get a starter up?

  517. 517
    Bethany Says:

    That kid is out in LEFT FIELD.

  518. 518
    Adam M Says:

    What’s the biggest story tonight? McCann’s injury? The 18 innings? The performance by Lisp? Proctor surviving two scoreless innings? Or that girl?

    I vote the girl. I find her legitimately unsettling.

  519. 519
    Jeff K Says:

    That boy looks like I feel.

  520. 520
    Dan Says:

    Please hit a walk-off home run off that kid’s head.

  521. 521
    JoeyT Says:

    At some point you have to put in today’s starter and call someone else up for the start.

  522. 522
    rb Says:

    I think chip just suggested david kill that kid.

  523. 523
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Braves should just give up and let the girl have her win. The Braves don’t deserve to win another game all season.

  524. 524
    Brian J. Says:

    521- We reached that point three innings ago, and let Proctor into the game anyway.

  525. 525
    reaganman Says:

    523- Neither do the Pirates. Proctor just pitched two shutout innings against them.

  526. 526
    Adam M Says:

    That kid is picking up steam.

  527. 527
    drewdat Says:

    I’m guessing her father kept her in an isolation chamber with only generic Pittsburgh sports chants piped in at high volume.

  528. 528
    Bethany Says:

    Please Dan!!

  529. 529
    urlhix Says:

    Let’s go parents, indeed.

  530. 530
    Anon21 Says:

    It would seem that the advantage should have swung decisively to pitchers at this point…all the hitters are dog tired, you would figure their visual acuity, hand-eye coordination, and fine motor control would be shot.

  531. 531
    drewdat Says:

    How about some player specific chants? Seriously.

  532. 532
    csg Says:

    Great, now they IBB Uggla to get to AAG. Dont understand that steal.

    edit: apparently, the Pirates arent paying attention

  533. 533
    drewdat Says:

    Yeah, awesome, let’s get AAG up here.

    The Pirates do know that only Freeman matters as a base runner, right?

  534. 534
    Andy Says:

    Let’s go Pirates

  535. 535
    braves14 Says:

    Yeah, you’d think she’d find something different to scream once in a while.

  536. 536
    JoeyT Says:

    Mike Minor’s scheduled start is tonight anyway. If the Braves don’t score here, I say put in Jair and call up Minor for tonight.

  537. 537
    Putter Says:

    but now here comes Agony again in a big spot…ugh

  538. 538
    kc Says:

    So I left for an hour and missed nothing. Great!!!

  539. 539
    Brian J. Says:

    Unwise, Dan. Now AAG will ground out and Proctor will turn back into Proctor.

  540. 540
    DowneasterJC Says:

    I bet Pirate Girl ends up as their GM soon enough.

  541. 541
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    We need Elias or Stats Inc. to tell us the last time someone went 0-for-9.

  542. 542
    Anon21 Says:

    Why do you conference on the mound? Just to make fun of AAG? Pointlessly cruel.

  543. 543
    Dan Says:

    So I left for an hour and missed nothing. Great!!!

    You missed two miraculous Proctor scoreless innings and ear-raping chanting of a young girl in left field.

  544. 544
    Putter Says:

    I mean, Agony can;t get a hit here, right?

  545. 545
    Scump Says:

    Let me just say, solid work by the posters here tonight. Got to be way past bedtime for most of y’all.

  546. 546
    braves14 Says:

    I’m pretty sure Francoeur did it for the Mets a couple years ago.

  547. 547
    rb Says:

    Weak grounder to short?

    edit: nope, hard grounder to short

  548. 548
    JoeyT Says:

    This seems like the twelfth time tonight that AAG has come up with two on and two out and failed, and he didn’t even enter the game until the ninth.

  549. 549
    Putter Says:

    I hate Chip…what an idiot

  550. 550
    Anon21 Says:

    Well, that was almost not an out. Very close, Alex.

  551. 551
    Dan Says:

    Oh screw you, Caray.

  552. 552
    Adam M Says:

    Chip Carey should be fired.

  553. 553
    csg Says:

    “LINED CF…picked up by Cedeno at SS….”

    Nice Chip, you tool

  554. 554
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    That will be AAG’s best effort for the week…

  555. 555
    drewdat Says:

    Wow, must be tough for a SS to force someone on a liner to center. Although AAG’s listlessness brings a fresh horizon of possibilities out there.

  556. 556
    braves14 Says:

    lol Chip that one didn’t even make it to the outfield

  557. 557
    Morrie Says:

    This must be what they were talking about in Inception when they referenced limbo. Time is standing still and my brain has turned to mush

  558. 558
    stupup74 Says:

    If someone would give that kid a ball, she would probably shut up.

  559. 559
    Brian J. Says:

    Baseball-Reference has Trot Nixon going 0-9 against the White Sox on July 9, 2006. The Dodgers’ John Shelby was the last guy to go 0-10, back in 1989.

  560. 560
    braves14 Says:

    This has got to be the longest game thread in several years.

  561. 561
    Jaik Jarrkjens Says:

    Hahaha. “Lined to center field!… and picked up by Cedeno just shy of the grass.”

    A classic Chipism.

  562. 562
    Jeff K Says:

    Chip sucks.

    But I’m voting for Pirate Girl for president. Good night, folks.

  563. 563
    ryan c Says:

    “Lined Centerfield”…Chip can’t blame his stupidity on being tired.

  564. 564
    csg Says:

    AAG swung at the first pitch after 2 straight walks. He also pulled a pitch to SS that was a breaking ball a foot outside.

  565. 565
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    “Freddie Freeman” and “Scott Proctor” are trending worldwide on Twitter. And this game deserves so much better than Chip Caray.

  566. 566
    Adam M Says:

    AAG now has an OPS below .600. I sure hope he keeps everyone in stitches in that locker room.

  567. 567
    kc Says:

    Guys, haven’t you learned? Turn on MUTE!!!!

  568. 568
    Dan Says:

    Caray was fired from TBS for his infamous “line drive, base hit…caught!” call.

  569. 569
    Jeremy Says:

    Screeching girl > Alex Gonzalez

  570. 570
    braves14 Says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RHcGWHuThE

  571. 571
    Catz Says:

    oopsssss

  572. 572
    urlhix Says:

    Fortunately, screaming pirate girl seems to freak them out as much as it does us. We still have a chance.

  573. 573
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Why is JJ “not a candidate” to pitch tonight?

    Don’t encourage the management’s lack of creative thought Joe. I mean I know you haven’t had one since 1983, but that doesn’t mean you have to encourage it in others.

  574. 574
    Putter Says:

    Screaming Pirate girl has a higher OPS than AAG

  575. 575
    JoeyT Says:

    At some point, Jair has to come in this game.

  576. 576
    Scump Says:

    @572- seriously. It’s not like this game becomes throwaway just because it’s in the 19th- D-backs are only, what, 3 games behind in the WC right now?

  577. 577
    drewdat Says:

    That had home run distance, just all vertical.

  578. 578
    Anon21 Says:

    Screaming Pirate Girl is (blessedly?) absent from the radio feed.

    In other news, I think and hope they’ll suspend before opening the 21st.

  579. 579
    Brian J. Says:

    Proctor gets a 1-2-3 inning. We are now through the looking glass, people.

  580. 580
    Adam M Says:

    Amazingly, Proctor has thrown as many balls as he has strikes in his 3 scoreless innings. Smoke and mirrors that leaves the Braves’ brass oo-ing and aw-ing.

  581. 581
    stupup74 Says:

    Is there a curfew, or do they just keep playing?

  582. 582
    Dan Says:

    Proctor has thrown three scoreless innings. WTF?

  583. 583
    rb Says:

    Nothing has surprised me more than proctor throwing 3 scoreless innings tonight, even if they gave him 2 outs.

    Nothing has surprised me less than the AB AAG has put up.

  584. 584
    Adam M Says:

    Btw, the Pirates haven’t brought in Hanrahan yet. You know why? Yep – because they’re in an extra-inning game on the road, and you can’t bring in your best pitcher until you have a lead.

    Not that it matters. Only two or three Braves ever seem to hit the ball out of the infield.

  585. 585
    seGT Says:

    I’m hearing the Pirates kid on the radio feed. It’s not significant enough to comment on, but it’s definitely noticeable.

  586. 586
    urlhix Says:

    @580, Someone said 2AM was the cutoff. I dunno.

  587. 587
    Anon21 Says:

    Gnats becoming a factor.

  588. 588
    DowneasterJC Says:

    Pirate Girl has gone national.

    http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/7/27/2296824/its-the-top-of-the-nineteenth-inning

  589. 589
    Dan Says:

    Cup guy > Pirates girl

  590. 590
    rb Says:

    Go cup guy!

  591. 591
    Jeff K Says:

    That girl is on meth.

  592. 592
    Putter Says:

    Typically, Chip loves the Pirate girl we all hate

  593. 593
    Jeremy Says:

    Lugo has been on base four times tonight.

    That’s a good two weeks for AAG.

  594. 594
    csg Says:

    cmon we need post #600….too much for me, night everyone

  595. 595
    drewdat Says:

    I think she just did a vocal slow clap.

  596. 596
    JoeyT Says:

    Maybe Jair will not be necessary.

  597. 597
    Adam M Says:

    591 – I’ve almost grown to like her. It’s like Florence Nightingale syndrome.

  598. 598
    Bethany Says:

    GO BRAVES!!!!! Come on, let’s finish it!

  599. 599
    Jeremy Says:

    Best part about MLBTV on PS3 is you can get the radio feed instead of the two monkeys.

  600. 600
    Brian J. Says:

    What we need is run #4- and thanks to Schafer, we’re one base away.

  601. 601
    Anon21 Says:

    Calling it: GIDP.

  602. 602
    Jeff K Says:

    Adam, more like Stockholm Syndrome.

  603. 603
    drewdat Says:

    Risky business here. One out, so the runner at third could score… but not on a DP. Two outs and Prado wastes it. Tough call.

  604. 604
    JoeyT Says:

    Pirates Girl is a new meme.

  605. 605
    drewdat Says:

    Delayed double steal. The answer.

    Too late.

  606. 606
    Anon21 Says:

    Reversing previous call: IBB to get to Prado.

  607. 607
    Adam M Says:

    601 – Right, my bad. It’s late!

  608. 608
    Dan Says:

    SAFE!

  609. 609
    Putter Says:

    WOW!!

  610. 610
    Morrie Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  611. 611
    csg Says:

    PROCTOR!!

    still dont like you…

  612. 612
    Adam M Says:

    WTF?

  613. 613
    JoeyT Says:

    Ump is ready to go home. That is such a crap win.

  614. 614
    Jeff K Says:

    What.

  615. 615
    Bethany Says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  616. 616
    braves14 Says:

    Wow, Jerry Meals.

  617. 617
    urlhix Says:

    What a gimme there.

  618. 618
    drewdat Says:

    You can’t be serious. Not like that.

  619. 619
    reaganman Says:

    LOL!!!

  620. 620
    Putter Says:

    Kept Prado from the 0-10

  621. 621
    Catz Says:

    LOL WTF??

  622. 622
    csg Says:

    Worst call Ive ever seen I think

  623. 623
    Adam M Says:

    If I was Hurdle, I would probably assault him.

  624. 624
    Brian J. Says:

    YEAH!

    Oh wait, we’ll never be rid of Proctor now!

    ARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!

  625. 625
    drewdat Says:

    If Hurdle kills him, no jury could convict.

  626. 626
    Frank Says:

    Holy crap

  627. 627
    JoeyT Says:

    I can’t stop laughing. That is such crap. Of course, I’ll take it.

  628. 628
    Adam M Says:

    If he’s not fired then MLB has a serious problem.

  629. 629
    ububba Says:

    Ridiculous ending to a ridiculous ballgame.

  630. 630
    drewdat Says:

    Awful tag, though. But he made it.

  631. 631
    DowneasterJC Says:

    SPG better get a load of signed swag or Pirates deserve to be erased from history.

    Also the ump deserves to be fired and never allowed into a stadium again.

  632. 632
    JoeyT Says:

    It looked bad live, but it looks even worse in slow motion.

    That plate ump is horrible.

  633. 633
    Catz Says:

    Scott Proctor Knows How To Win.

  634. 634
    Scump Says:

    OK for those of us following only on the internet, what the hell happened?

  635. 635
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    Yes!! That is possibly the worst call I have ever seen….

  636. 636
    seGT Says:

    I feel awful for that girl we all hate.

  637. 637
    drewdat Says:

    Proctor faceplanted out of the box, by the way. Perfect.

  638. 638
    Bethany Says:

    How can you get away with a call like that? Definitely the worst I’ve seen.

  639. 639
    reaganman Says:

    633- Lugo was out by 3 miles and the ump calls him safe.

  640. 640
    Dan Says:

    Pirates girl would have made the right call there.

  641. 641
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    @634 No “possibly” about it. Jerry Meals just made last year’s World Cup referees look competent.

  642. 642
    JoeyT Says:

    My blind grandmother would have made the right call there. It was not close.

  643. 643
    Ryan c Says:

    Oh lord. That didn’t just happen.

  644. 644
    Catz Says:

    I really have not laughed out loud this much about a baseball game ever.

  645. 645
    drewdat Says:

    Slow ground ball to the left side, Lugo was dead to rights, he did some weird, shy away from contact, weak, fall backwards slide and the catcher glanced the tag on his leg and waved the glove over his arm a couple times. He was obviously out, but that was a terrible tag on a play that shouldn’t have been close at all.

  646. 646
    Hate King Says:

    Meals is terrible.

  647. 647
    Morrie Says:

    DId any one see proctor belly flop out of the box?

  648. 648
    Adam M Says:

    What’s remarkable is that he is definitely going to become THE story now for every sports outlet tomorrow. This was a 19th inning game(!)–everybody will see it now. I’m baffled by that call; there was absolutely no possible way to see Lugo as safe.

  649. 649
    braves14 Says:

    633 — Proctor hit a grounder to third, Lugo came home, Alvarez threw to the plate and the throw beat him, the tag beat him, he didn’t make it to the plate until a minute later, and the umpire called him safe.

  650. 650
    ububba Says:

    Worst call I’ve ever seen?

    Mmmmm, Top 10 at least.

  651. 651
    drewdat Says:

    Put it this way, how catchers frame pitches to get called strikes? McKenry did the opposite on that tag and made it look like a whiff, though it should have been obvious from five feet.

  652. 652
    Jeff K Says:

    Lugo was out, but thank goodness it is over.

  653. 653
    Scump Says:

    Thanks guys- SC is showing commercial after commercial and now some X-games crap. Hopefully they’ll get around to showing a Braves highlight for once- but being ESPN, I won’t hold my breath.

  654. 654
    stupup74 Says:

    My prediction about someone killing an umpire almost came true sooner than I thought.

    If we make the playoffs by a game and the Pirates lose out by a game, it will be a shame.

    Sorry about their luck, but I will take it.

  655. 655
    Nick Says:

    LOLOLOLOLOL

    That is, without a doubt, the worst call I’ve ever seen. Without hyperbole, Jerry Meals should be fired after that game.

  656. 656
    Hate King Says:

    Based on the replay I think he was safe, but Lugo’s reaction is all you need.

  657. 657
    Tom Says:

    Proctor hit a weak GB on an 0-2 pitch to the SS, Lugo broke for home nevertheless and was a dead duck at the plate. The catcher tagged him with a swiping move on several parts of the body for the out and blocked the plate so that Lugo never touched it. When the play was over and everybody expected the ump to call Lugo out, Lugo – who still stood next to home plate – almost incidentally stepped on the plate and – to his and everyones surprise – was called safe to end the game.

    Thank you, ump.

  658. 658
    Jaik Jarrkjens Says:

    Holy cow, what an abrupt end to the game. I’m actually kind of bummed about it.

  659. 659
    Adam M Says:

    I’ve never seen a worse call, at least at such a juncture in the game. If we were Pirates fans, we would bring this up for years.

  660. 660
    JoeyT Says:

    One of the worst calls I’ve seen outside of balls and strikes.

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    Grst Says:

    I just knew the first play at the plate would be called safe no matter what. I’d be seething mad if I was a Pirates fan…or player. They wanted to murder him.

  662. 662
    DG Says:

    Not quite a call that costs a pitcher a perfect game, but definitely bush league…

  663. 663
    JoeyT Says:

    Martinez is my player of the game. So awesome.

  664. 664
    Alex R. Says:

    Yes, I stayed awake too and yes, Jerry Meals maybe getting death threats from enraged Pirates fans. They may in fact be even more enraged that Jerry Meals turned Scott Proctor into a game hero.

  665. 665
    braves14 Says:

    That was as bad as Eric Gregg’s strike zone.

  666. 666
    rehabreject Says:

    Clint Hurdle turned a nuclear shade of red which is not too far off from his usual shade of orange sherbet

  667. 667
    drewdat Says:

    Proctor is getting interviewed postgame. What were the odds?

  668. 668
    andrew b Says:

    jerry meals should be fired. now.

  669. 669
    Scump Says:

    Finally saw the highlight. As the Trailer Park Boys would say, “Oh my fuck.” That was unbelievable. I can’t wait to see what Clint Hurdle says about this- he should be able to rip Meals with impunity for that garbage.

  670. 670
    JoeyT Says:

    Why do they have to bring up the Farnsworth game? Why do they have to go there?

  671. 671
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    #636–Yeah, that was pretty rich…..with Proctor on the ground the Pirates should have had the DP….

  672. 672
    Alex R. Says:

    Jerry Meals = the last remnant of Saddam’s Iraqi Republican Guard. But hey, the Braves got a win…

  673. 673
    rb Says:

    The braves did not win that game. I am speechless.

    And proctor would’ve still been out at 1st.

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    drewdat Says:

    Pretty sure the tag only glanced his leg and didn’t get anything else (brushed jersey possibly?). The catcher made a bare minimum effort on an easy play and got burned.

  675. 675
    Catz Says:

    This is usually the kind of call that goes against us, isn’t it? my god…. that has to be one of the worst calls of all time

  676. 676
    Tom Says:

    After my comment at #59, I went to bed. I woke up five minutes ago, grabbed my iPad in full anticipation of another loss, saw “3-3, 19th inning” on the scorebord, logged into MLB.TV and watched Scott Proctor coming to the plate. Still half asleep, it dawned on me that I might be watching something out of the ordinary.

    Morning recap indeed, I guess.

    Great to have you back among the living, Mac.

  677. 677
    stupup74 Says:

    666- Same odds as a post about Proctor would be number 666?

    Hurdle gets kicked out during the lineup card exchange tomorrow, count it.

    I think I would have killed the guy if I was the Pirates. I really do.

    The Eric Gregg game was the worst game I ever saw. I hated him so much that when he died of a heart attack, I laughed my ass off. I still do.

    If I was a Pirate fan, Jerry Meals would rank up on my hate list like Gregg does mine.

  678. 678
    reaganman Says:

    Surely this means we get instant replay next year…

  679. 679
    PaulV Says:

    Funny how the real call sounded like one of Chip’s call. Tagged out, he’s safe.

  680. 680
    Alex R. Says:

    You gotta love that it was comment 666 about Proctor getting post game interview.

    Keep in mind Freeman saved Proctor’s mediocre ass two innings earlier with that line drive take away.

  681. 681
    braves14 Says:

    And now, the worst analogy ever, courtesy of Peanut on Twitter:

    “Proctor completes a third scoreless inning. Those doubting him were probably the ones calling for Falcons to trade Favre”

  682. 682
    ububba Says:

    So our bullpen was pretty good tonight, eh?

    13 IP, 0 R, 6 H, 5 BB (3 IBB), 14 K

  683. 683
    Adam M Says:

    Everyone looked shocked – Lugo, the catcher, Alvarez, Proctor. At first I thought the safe sign was just an odd out sign. I need to sleep. I hope I’ll be able to sleep.

  684. 684
    reaganman Says:

    680 – Wow. Just. Wow.

  685. 685
    Alex R. Says:

    #676

    The difference is that as angry as the Pirates have a right to be tonight, Fat ass Gregg cost us the 1997 NLCS and possibly our 2nd world series championship.

    There’s a special place in HELL for Gregg – I will never forgive or forget – just like I will NEVER forgive the Ump who called Ron Gant out after Hrbek lifted him off first base in 1991 – or forgive the Twins for making a 20th anniversary bobblehead of that horrible cheating moment this year.

  686. 686
    PaulV Says:

    When Mac sees what happened he may think he is having a reaction from his pain killers.

  687. 687
    kc Says:

    Peanut is good enough to be a ML ump. Full of bs.

  688. 688
    Tom Says:

    Peanut just climbed a mile on my list of dumb assholes. Not past Eric Gregg though.

  689. 689
    Catz Says:

    Jerry Meals is trending worldwide on twitter.

  690. 690
    andrew b Says:

    the best part is when mac wakes up in the morning and sees 700+ comments on a Braves-Pirates Tuesday night game; then he sits to read some of them and finds out that Scott Proctor threw three shutout innings and had the game winning RBI – and most of us want to give it back…he’s gonna wonder if he’s back under the anesthesia or something…

  691. 691
    ububba Says:

    #685
    This game was drugs.

  692. 692
    Alex R. Says:

    I talked to Mac on the phone today and he and I joked that the Braves performance is what’s keeping him down right now. I’ll look forward to calling him tomorrow with the details on this one.

  693. 693
    Adam M Says:

    680 – Yes, because Brett Favre was the football equivalent of a journeyman reliever whose career FIP was about 5. Peanut may actually be mentally deficient. Like, he might require someone to clean up his chin after he eats, and dress him, and make sure he doesn’t hurt himself with something sharp when unattended.

  694. 694
    Brian J. Says:

    Does that make Peanut dumber than Chip? Peanut’s seen our games. He knows, or ought to, that tonight only lowered Proctor’s ERA to 6.48, and that required a great play by Freeman in the 18th. And he compares Proctor to an all-time great? How does that make sense, even when sleep-deprived?

  695. 695
    Alex R. Says:

    #689

    Hilarious and SO true.

  696. 696
    Bethany Says:

    Great shots of the tag.

    http://oldtimefamilybaseball.com/post/8119426885/the-worst-call-i-have-ever-seen

  697. 697
    drewdat Says:

    I think the Bowman/Favre thing was tongue in cheek. Maybe that’s too much credit.

  698. 698
    stupup74 Says:

    What a game. What a thread. Thanks for sharing the experience guys. Sleep well everybody.

  699. 699
    Dan Says:

    Animated .GIF on final play for those that missed it:

    http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/670132/HomeTag2.gif.opt.gif

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    stupup74 Says:

    http://oldtimefamilybaseball.com/post/8119426885/the-worst-call-i-have-ever-seen

    Even Buster Posey thinks it was a bad call.

    HE WAS OUT!!!!!!

  701. 701
    kc Says:

    I haven’t seen the ending, but I had so much fun reading you guys’ comments.

  702. 702
    drewdat Says:

    I still say the tag was iffy. Lugo says he didn’t feel it, LOL.

    Prado was good for it, anyways.

  703. 703
    rb Says:

    Cup guy.

    http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/7/27/2296835/rally-giant-stack-of-cups#storyjump

  704. 704
    JoeyT Says:

    No one in the world blames Hurdle for turning into this: http://tinypic.com/r/2ivb782/7

  705. 705
    Catz Says:

    Definitely the most memorable game of the year, glad I stayed up

  706. 706
    drewdat Says:

    Obviously Jerry Meals was paying homage to Dock Ellis by calling a game on LSD.

  707. 707
    Bethany Says:

    Well, goodnight folks, it was a wild one.

  708. 708
    rb Says:

    Rob Neyer on twitter saying lugo was safe.

    In other news, Rob has been drinking tonight.

  709. 709
    timo Says:

    Good morning from Switzerland. Didn’t expect to catch the last inning of Braves baseball when I arrived at work this morning. Just scrolled through this thread. Awesome guys!!

  710. 710
    Our New Insect Overlords Says:

    Jerry Meals’ explanation, per Peanut:

    http://markbowman.mlblogs.com/2011/07/27/meals-explanation-of-his-game-ending-safe-call/

    “I saw the tag, but he looked like he oléd him and I called him safe for that. I looked at the replays and it appeared he might have got him on the shin area. I’m guessing he might have got him, but when I was out there when it happened I didn’t see a tag.

    “I just saw the glove sweep up. I didn’t see the glove hit his leg.”

    So in other words, he admits he saw the tag, but called him safe anyway. Freaking buffoon.

  711. 711
    Catz Says:

    http://i54.tinypic.com/2qajrko.png

  712. 712
    Stephen in the UAE Says:

    #710–A minor classic….

  713. 713
    justhank Says:

    Everyone click on Catz’ submittal @710 – hilarious.

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    Adam R Says:

    If someone could overlay Skip’s audio from The Slide onto video of that play, it would make my life.

  715. 715
    PeteOrr Says:

    Heyward gets crap from Joe Simpson for sliding head first all the time, but he didn’t say a word about Proctor doing it. I think we all recognize the insidious double standard here.

  716. 716
    Smitty Says:

    @713

    That would be great.

  717. 717
    Dan Says:

    @710: that was just Proctor starting his 75-foot slide to first base.

  718. 718
    Trace Says:

    LOL! I haven’t laughed that hard in a long time.

  719. 719
    Remy Says:

    Bethany and Dan,

    Thanks for those shots of the tag. DirectTV cut off our MLB feed sometime around the 17th inning, so I had to listen to the rest of the game on the radio. What a wacky finish!

    Go, Braves!

  720. 720
    JoeyT Says:

    Morning after reflection: That has to be the least satisfying epic win I’ve ever experienced as a fan of any team.

  721. 721
    Dan Says:

    Morning after reflection: That has to be the least satisfying epic win I’ve ever experienced as a fan of any team.

    ….because of McCann’s injury?

  722. 722
    td Says:

    I think he was out, but I don’t think it was even close to the worst call I’ve ever seen. Meals was in a good position and I believe him when he said he thought the catcher swept past Lugo without tagging him. I would still be mad if I was a Pirates fan, but with so many bad calls going against Atlanta this year, I’ll take this one with no complaints.

  723. 723
    Marc Schneider Says:

    Does anyone realize that Brian McCann is going on the disabled list? What is going on with this team? Is the training staff this bad or is it simply incredibly bad luck?

    As bad a call as it was–clearly the umpire wanted to go home–neither team has a right to complain about losing when they go 14 innings without scoring.

  724. 724
    JoeyT Says:

    @720, that’s about half of it. The way it ended is the other half.

  725. 725
    Smitty Says:

    @722

    That was just bad luck on McCann’s part. I think this forces Frank Wren to get a bigger bat.

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    PaulV Says:

    Replay would have not reversed the call because it was inconclusive. From the outfield shot it could have been an ole’

  727. 727
    PaulV Says:

    Ross is best back up catcher in baseball. I worry about CJ and Success if CJ misses games. Gutty game for Success. No balls were hit to him for 10 innings!!

  728. 728
    kc Says:

    Saw the replay from behind the plate. I can understand why that call was made, but that was still a terrible call.

  729. 729
    Adam M Says:

    The more I watch it, the more uncertain I am of whether he was out or not. I agree that replay would not have been able to reverse the call.

    I’m happy with the win, but all in all I feel unsatisfied. McCann got injured, both Prado and Heyward look horrible, and the whole country feels badly for the Pirates now. Plus, somehow Scott Proctor may have solidified his spot on the roster. The man has a 6.48 ERA and a 5.91 FIP. Please let him be gone soon.

  730. 730
    JonathanF Says:

    Like Remy, I lost the DirecTV feed at 1 AM, but continued “watching” on the ESPN cellphone gamecast-like app.

    My only comment: as a longtime Braves fan (since ’66) who still isn’t certain Sid Bream was safe, I have to say that if there’s a close play at the plate (or even a not close play) I want to be playing the Pirates.

  731. 731
    PaulV Says:

    Pirates should have played percentage and walked Proctor to set up force at home. (J/K)

  732. 732
    Stu Says:

    Excellent work last night, Braves Journalers. I went to bed at 11 Central and still had hundreds of hilarious comments to sort through this morning.

  733. 733
    Michael Says:

    @731 – Seconded. Excellent job guys.

  734. 734
    TheFlyingBernard Says:

    Lost in all of this is the fact that Uggla was actually above the Mendoza line for most of the game last night! It lasted from the 2nd inning to the 16th inning.

  735. 735
    joelk Says:

    Wow, fun to read the posts of those of you endured last night! Have seen the replay from several angles and from one angle it does appear that the tag might have missed him or barely grazed him. Proctors face plant is epic!

  736. 736
    cliff Says:

    Last night is what makes you thankful to have David Ross (and even J. C. Boscan).

  737. 737
    Nick Says:

    Folks, don’t become convinced he was actually safe. First, Lugo clearly knew he was out, based on his reaction. Second, Meals called him safe before he even touched the plate. Plus, I’m not sure what angle you guys are seeing it from, but watching it last night, there was no question the tag was applied.

    Also, Pirates fans are obsessed with the Sid Bream play. You’d think, if he were actually out, we’d have heard about it by now.

  738. 738
    Mark Graybill Says:

    There are many, many things about which I am uncertain in this crazy world, but one thing that I know absolutely to be true: Sid Bream was safe.

  739. 739
    JoeyT Says:

    @737, the safe call was made right after Lugo’s foot stomped on the plate. He just stomped on it again, reflexively, I guess, after the safe call was made.

    To me, he was clearly out live and in every replay. The best still shot I’ve seen on the web is here: http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post?urn=mlb-wp13987

  740. 740
    Ethan Says:

    Regarding Fredi and Proctor, I am comforted by the fact that the former held out 16 innings before using the latter.

    You can’t be mad because we won, but offensively, this team is currently held together by a thread.

  741. 741
    JoeyT Says:

    Just thinking out loud: This is the kind of blown call that will give catchers incentive to block the plate with their bodies to leave no doubt of contact. After all of this post-Posey talk about proper technique and applying swipe-tags, this game just showed why catchers elect to stand on the baseline.

  742. 742
    JoeyT Says:

    @740, Fredi was in the clubhouse. He didn’t refrain from anything.

  743. 743
    PaulV Says:

    @739 That two dimensional shot merely show that glove was above leg, not that it was in contact. Inconclusive

  744. 744
    PaulV Says:

    Fredi was in tunnel and in charge.

  745. 745
    drewdat Says:

    @737

    Lugo’s right foot ends up standing on home plate after the slide, before he was called safe. And I’m sure Lugo expected to be called out since he shouldn’t have run anyways, so I’m not sure that cinches it either.

    Agree that the tag was applied, but the TV view closest to Meals’s angle looks like a pretty big whiff with maybe a slight touch to the leg–once, not two or three different places like some have said. If you aren’t going to give an automatic, “neighborhood” out call, then it was tough to tell if the tag was applied. A lot of that is on the catcher for me, who had plenty of time to not make a ridiculous swipe that grazed Lugo (also probably would have been easier to knock loose since he one-handed it). It’s clearer from the third-base side view, but that’s not where Meals was, nor should he have been.

    On it’s own merit, the call wasn’t that bad. Add in that Meals probably shouldn’t be that picky on a tag on that type of play and the inning/result, and it gets worse, but still not historically bad. Maybe just run-of-the-mill bad.

    MLB.com replay

  746. 746
    Mac Thomason Says:

    I did a recap.

  747. 747
    Randy Says:

    I went to bed after the 16th (figuring Proctor = loss). My wife wakes me up saying the morning newscasters were mad the Braves won, I first go to Braves Journal and see over 700 posts, then check the highlights. I’ve seen some bad calls, but for one single call, this had to be the worst, but I’ll take it, we need it with McCann going on the DL.

  748. 748
    jjschiller Says:

    Watching the MLB.com replay above.

    At 1:17, you see McKenry swipe across his body, and it sure looks like he tagged him.

    But at 1:40, they show a longview of the play from the third-base line, and at 1:47, you can see McKenry alligator armed the tag. I’m not sure the tag didn’t just go over the top of him.

  749. 749
    PaulV Says:

    Meals can umpire. Meals likely needed a meal after 6+ hours. Steak, he deserves it.

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